My Second Flush 
Ain
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HI all.
I thought I would post the results of my second GB flush.
Again I had a heck of a time getting to sleep last night. Perhaps it's the oo/gf mixture that keeps me up or something else.
Got up this morning and took the ES and got out a lot of what I guess was chaff. First flush I got out dozens of dime sized stones and hundreds of little pea sized bits, all green. This time I got out a lot of dark brown chaff, I did not see any stones. The stuff looked like dark brown rice except smaller than rice and really dark. Sorry, trying to explain something I have never seen before is kinda hard.
Really tired today. Went out for a walk and within three blocks I had to stop and return home.
I also wanted to mention that I was doing the MC, P&B shakes and the parasite cleanse as well. I stopped drinking the lemonade yesterday and started back up again today. I also stopped the P&B and stopped taking the parasite herbs.
I have been on the Master-Cleanse since Wednesday so today is day five. I plan to go until Friday which should be ten days. The P&B seems to be working because I had three BM yesterday that fit the pictures of the mucoid plaque that are here, an added bonus I thought. They were kinda small, not the big ropes that people talk about here. Would probably be about twice the size of my thumb. I hope I get some ropes.
This forum is excellent and I enjoy reading the posts here. It is great to be able to talk or write about these experiences. I don't know of anyone with who I can talk about this stuff.
Ain.- Re: My Second Flush Tracey
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This is a reply to # 572,591Interesting flush Ain! The rice-shaped small things you got out almost sound parasite egg-ish..only they were really dark, so I just don't know! As we say here: better out than in!
Yes, doing the flush mid MC/B&P/PC can be a little draining...make sure you get LOTS of lemonade today, just to make sure you're getting enough nutrients...and the same with the water intake. You want to get fully hydrated again...seeing as the Epsom Salts really dehydrate you..and you need all that hydration because the b&p's are going to absorb lots too! whew.
That's great that you're getting out some mucoid plaque! It comes in all shapes and sizes...it's good it's starting to come. Keep us posted on what happens next. Take it easy today and be good to yourself. Glad you got out some chaff and other ickies....
T- Re: My Second Flush Hope
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This is a reply to # 572,595Hi Ain,
I just would like to say Whew. Good job with the cleanse. Is the Lemonade Cleanse for you. I'm new to the forum and still wondering if I should do that one. I heard it can deplete you sys. of many nutients.
I am still cleansing from WEd. flush. Starting to get Mucid also. This is my 2nd liver flush. I'm waiting for some parasite formula from Florida. It's a two month supply. Guarenteed or money back.
Will See. Best to You and God Bless. ChipperHope- Re: My Second Flush Ain
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This is a reply to # 572,597Hi Hope.
To answer your question about the lemonade cleanse.
I am no expert and I don't want to give you advice. It is different for each person but I can speak for myself.
I have done some study of the body and have learned that it is very intelligent and it knows exactly what it needs and tries to tell us if we listen. What I have learned about the body has amazed me.
If you decide to try the lemonade cleanse then listen to what your body says and trust that.
I have done the lemonade cleanse several times now and I think the most important thing about it is how you end the cleanse.
To answer your question, Does the lemonade cleanse depleate your system? I think there may be two different modes. The beginning of the cleanse is when your body takes the time and energy to do important housecleaning and repairs. After a time, which is different for each of us, the body goes into starvation mode and this is not good. Your body will tell you when it needs food and your system is getting depleated.
My body has been telling me for years that I was eating too much at each meal.
Ain.
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This is a reply to # 572,595YO Tracey!!!
Did my Fourth Liver Flush this weekend!!! With saturday drinking close to four liters of lemonade no maple syrup. Did one Epsom Salts at night. then the 1/2 C olive oil follwed by 1/2C chaser of lemon juice; followed 15 minutes later by another 1/2 C olive oil followed by 1/2 C chaser of lemon juice.
This morning did the Epsom Salt at nearly 7 AM and immediately had a 2 1/2 foot + mucoidal plaque! THEN at about 9 AM I did the second Epsom Salts --again immediately follwed by another 2 1/2 foot mucoidal plaque!!! No stones until 12:30 PM and 1:30 Pm and 2:30 Pm. Less than 25 in all very small green.
GEEEEEZ!!! Where did all that mucoidal plaque come from??? I have been on the BC since after Thanksgiving!!! Doing the P and B shakes 3 to 4 times a day. Althought after the third Liver Flush last weekend I took about a six day break from the P and Bs. Have not eaten since Sunday and Monday. Do enemas daily. So why six days later do I have TWO 2 1/2 foot mucoidal plaque????
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- Adrick! Tracey
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MoreThis is a reply to # 572,598WOW! That is bloody amazing!! A total of 5 feet of mucoid plaque ropes???? WOW! Wish you could have taken a photo! (heehee) The extra milk MAY have had something to do with it in some way (not sure how) because milk IS mucoid forming....but thats really weird!
Was that the first mucoid plaque you've gotten out since you started the b&p's after Thanksgiving? That really sounds amazing...have you noticed your tummy flattening?? (I did when I got lotsa mucoid plaque outta me!)
Things should really start to hum now! You'd better keep on with the b&p's to get it all...
And...does the milk do allright with you? I just read something interesting about how the calcium in milk actually saps calcium from your bones or something like that...hmmmmmmmm. But if you like the milk...you like the milk!
Good flush man!
T- Re: Adrick! #163633
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This is a reply to # 572,605Tracey -- I heard that was with low fat milk. According to what I heard, without enough fat present, milk can actually take calcium out of bones.
hg
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This is a reply to # 572,608HEY thanks Hypoguy!!!
And I was thinking of switching to nonfat milk tomorrow (YES there IS a God!!!)
Adrick- Reconsider #166126
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This is a reply to # 572,613If you are so interested in cleansing, I am quite surprised that you would drink milk. Dairy products are some of the MOST mucoid-forming, acidifying, toxifying foods out there! It's self-defeating. Not that we all eat perfectly, but I think it's important to avoid dairy products, at least in regular and/or large amounts. The occasional splurge is different.
It's not just skim/fat... it's actually the dairy calcium that leaches calcium from your bones! http://www.notmilk.com/o.html
and http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html
And the dairy fat (especially if it's homogenized) is well-associated with heart disease: http://www.notmilk.com/h.html
That's just for consideration - keep up the good cleansing work!
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This is a reply to # 572,622I tend to agree (look at my name!) I never thought dairy products could be THAT bad for anyone, and I didn't even eat that much, but ever since I went off of them, I haven't had any allergy problems, including no constantly stuffy nose, and more energy. I know they formed a lot of mucus in me, some that I still need to get out, and so I can't imagine going back. Even my family switched to rice milk!
- milk and kidney stones zora
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This is a reply to # 572,622A large study of American nurses, showed that taking calcium supplements was associated with increased risk for kidney stones, while taking high amounts of dairy foods, was associated with lower risk for kidney stones! The researchers assumed it's because of other elements in milk such as phosphorus which reduces urinary calcium excretion.
The same study also concluded that high consumption of animal protein lead to higher risk for kidney stones. (But apparently the diary protein didn't cause higher risks?!)
(reference: Comparison of Dietery Calciuim with Supplemental Calcium and other nutrients as Factors Affecting the Risk for kidney stones in Women, Annals of Internal Medicine, Volume 126, 1 April 1997)
I used to have kidney stones, and I already have lower bone density at age of 33! So how do I get calcium in big enough quantities to prevent ostheoporosis but avoid kidney stone formation? I am really puzzled with all the contradicting research.
BTW, passing kidney stones was the most painful experience in my life (it hurt more than gallstone attacks and giving birth the natural way)!
- Re: milk and kidney stones Ron
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This is a reply to # 572,628Hi Zora,
This is a topical issue. Some say that you are correct, but newer research proves otherwise.
I could repeat in my own words to save going to the link but the link is easy reading and explains
all the causes. Still it is best to not get kidney stones than to try to get rid of them.
http://www.drmirkin.com/morehealth/g134.htm
I hope you find this helpful.
Ron - Re: milk and kidney stones #163633
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This is a reply to # 572,628Hi Zora,
Thanks for your input. Perhaps this is why they sell combination calcium/magnesium/phosphorous supplements. I think Country Life has them.
Also, it was posted a while back that there is a kind of sound device that breaks up kidney stones so folks don't have to go through that kind of pain anymore.
hg
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- hypoguy Tracey
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This is a reply to # 572,608Oooooh! Interesting...I didn't know it was only low-fat milk!
Thanks for the info...
T
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This is a reply to # 572,605Hey Tracey!!!
No not at all my first mucoidal plaque since Thanksgiving!!! Have actually been having really Great regular mucoidal plaques!!!
Tummy flattening for Sure--noticeable when I am Off the P and Bs!!! AM Always bloated of course from the P and Bs--I mean it DOES absorb water and all...
Yes I will maintain the P and Bs. Forgot to mention the milk is accompanied by two shots espresso and caramel sauce cannot resist. But lemonade otherwise--a lot later after all the milk though!!!
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This is a reply to # 572,612Oh good! (beaucoup de mucoid plaque!)
yum yum...sounds delicious. That's funny...I guess you'll be stickin' to fullfat milk now!
T
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This is a reply to # 572,598This sounds a lot like the old timey method espoused by a doctor a number of years ago. He wrote a small book with lots of pictures of the various types of mucoid plaque that his patients had released. His case studies were extremely poorly done, however, and I think that this cost him a lot of credibility.
As I recall, his method was major lemonade fasts with at least daily bucket-type enemas. Very brutal, fasting lasting up to a month long I think. He had various plans. Pick your poison. I think it was much too harsh on the endocrine system, but apparently it worked for many of those who stuck it out.
I think that the gradual P&B shake program sounds more reasonable, except that you seem to be taking it to the extreme. Perhaps you are feeling a lot of outside pressure to make it happen quickly (work, relationships). If this pressure is mostly self-imposed, perhaps you would consider taking a slower course with more food (and less sugar, if that's an accurate comment). I'm glad that you're at least drinking milk. I hope it's full-fat. Milk actually has a fair amount of Sugar in it, BTW.
Take care,
hg
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This is a reply to # 572,609Hey Hypoguy!!!
NOT Exactly in a Hurry as you suggest--been Doing this for Five months now!!! Thought it a Good hting to get all the toxins out of my system. And then the Liver flushes...
And again Thanks for the info about the nonfat milk!!! YES!!!
Adrick- Re: My Second Flush #163633
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This is a reply to # 572,614Adrick -- I think that what you accomplished was absolutely awesome. I hope I experience something similar myself in the not too distant future.
It is true, though, that I get concerned that you might be pushing yourself a little too far too fast, and I don't want to see anything bad happen to you. I'm glad to see that you're at least getting some fat, protein and carbs.
That doctor I mentioned really pushed people to the brink to get their bodies to freak out and shed the mucoid plaque. I prefer to see folks go a little slower, which is why I was glad to find out about the P&B shakes as a kinder, gentler method for me -- eating, working out, and over six months shedding the mucoid plaque (if I have any). Perhaps I'll need more than six months if I go this slow route, since it took you almost as long with the fasting and all of those enemas. I bought my supplies last week, and I plan on starting today or tomorrow.
I guess we have to find our own inner truths and run with them. If folks feel that they must go on these strenuous fasts, though, I certainly would prefer to see them at least test their adrenal profiles first (see link below).
Some in this forum may also be interested in the Metabolic Assessment Profile:
http://www.biodia.com/html/guides/test101.html
Notes: These tests must be ordered through one of their doctors. You can ask them for doctor references for your particular needs, and you can sometimes call and get a five or ten minute introductory chat with a doctor to see if he really knows what he's doing. Caution: Their supplements sometimes have alcohol in them (like their sublinguals), and as always, some doctors seem to know more than others; IMHO, no doctor knows it all, although they sometimes act like they do ;).
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- Re: My Second Flush Adrick
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This is a reply to # 572,636Hey Hypoguy!!!
I was Doing the mucoid plaques even before I knew that's what they were!!! Within the first week after doing the P and Bs!!!
As for the enemas--I sometimes do them twice a day--but only those half pint size thingies not the 1/2 gallon + thing. Sometimes I justi do a Fleet enema. Sometimes I do my Quickie coffee enema--I make up espresso in the regular drip coffee machine and it works quite nicely. Even that half pint enema of coffee does well for me...It is just I was SO freaking amazed at what the Epsom Salts did for me!!!
As for my fasting. It's not like I have been fasting for four months. I did the ultimate fast for 8 days some months back. Then when I started doing the Liver Flushes I thought hell why not do them a week apart and only eat on Sunday and maybe Monday so I fast Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Saturday...
Only lately I am doing the coffee thing in the morning--as I Feel I HAVE to HAVE something to do that I Absolutely Enjoy!!! Okay it should be the raw salmon steak as protein source! But I don't do the coffee on weekends, to clear my body up a little.
Besides, too, in the beginning I could not resist resorting to eating Pan pizza with extra cheese and pepperoni!!! And holiday candy is sometimes Tempting--especially the peanut butter and chocalate...
So I am feeling actually I am sort of taking my time in all this. I could have Really psyched myself up and done the Jesus 40 day ultimate fast or something...
Anyway I am gradually working myself towards doing the Juices onlynutrient intake. And maybe eating on Holidays and then Cleansing afterwards...Right now it is difficult to actually give up Everything!!! So...
Adrick
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This is a reply to # 572,609Besides Hypoguy--
I thought I read somewhere about some BCs with P and Bs taking as long as one and one half Years!!! And One month being minimum!!!
Adrick - Re: My Second Flush Adrick
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This is a reply to # 572,609Hey you ALL !!!
And Thanks for all the Posts about milk!!! I figure the milk is my Only vice right now!!! Okay so the coffee too.
But just to reiterate--I didn't consider that I am doing this all as Overkill. I am just tired of all the cheeseburgers and pizzas and ham and cheese subs and Cheeses and Breads that I Absolutely Love!!! Not that I ever weighed over 115 pounds and am 5'6". I have dropped another 10 pounds and FEEL Wonderful so very full of energy with none of those Heavy fatty foods and Breads in my body!!! I have my Energy back and actually require alot less sleep than previously!!!
I am absolutely not trying to impress anyone. Anyone I know thinks this Site is totally New Age crap and many of you know what I mean!!! Most Americans don't want to discus how many bowel movements (if any) they have a day!!! One of my friends only has a bowel movement once a week and says it has been that way all his life so he is not inclined to change. And his doctor tells him his colon is okay. Yeah, Right.
TOO BAD. If Americans would lose that SAD (Sad American Diet--I forget who posted that but I like it!!!) would get rid of all the chemical ridden meats and all the fatty cheeses--well you know how many fewer diseases and health problems there would be. But hey--the Pharmaceutical companies and the Doctors and the Great American Economy would perish...Everyone is too Eager to look for a Pill from their doctor to Cure them of their diseases!!!
Adrick- Re: My Second Flush Tracey
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This is a reply to # 572,633Hey Adrick!
Just so you know...I think you are absolutely doing the right thing. I can see by your exclamation marks that you're enthusiastic, but not impatient....and I think you know what's going on with your own body!
Just do what you're doing and it'll take you on a supercool enjoyable journey!
Tracey- Re: My Second Flush Adrick
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This is a reply to # 572,643Thank you Liver Cleanse Goddess!!! It is SO nice to have a cheering section!!!
OH HEY--how about The American Dysfunctional Diet??? Something with Dysfunctional since that is among the latest buzzwords!!! I mwean talk about your Attention Deficit Disease...
Or is that Retention Deficit disease???
Adrick- Re: My Second Flush Tracey
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This is a reply to # 572,649THAT is hilarious! All these DDT LSD MCS....eiy eiy eiy! What?
So...I guess you're a girl eh? All along I thought 'Adrick' was a boy! ha. I thought....that's one enthusiastic guy...don't see that too often!
Go Adrick Go....
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This is a reply to # 572,650Adrick--one of my alter egos...
HEY can I put all those letters After my Name??? - Re: My Second Flush Adrick
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This is a reply to # 572,650OOOPS-error error W.R. (Will Robinson)Not disease rather Disorder. Whatever!!!
Adrick
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- Re: My Second Flush Ain
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This is a reply to # 572,595Interesting flush Ain! The rice-shaped small things you got out almost sound parasite egg-ish..only they were really dark, so I just don't know! As we say here: better out than in!
I gave them a very close look and they were not eggs. They were of the same stuff as the stones I passed two weeks ago. They seemed to be made of grease. My guess is that it was cholesterol. They mushed between my fingers like warm butter or fat.
Ain.
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