This is all very confusing. Is the post i copies below correct ?
"I always thought the same as you but the fact is I have recently discovered that candida loves alkaline and if the stomach and the digestive track are acid candida hates it. The stomach should secret the proper acids and the colon should be only slightly acid to be healthy. Alkalinity in the stomach and colon cause candida to thrive. If this surprises you, welcome to the club I too was surprised by this and since learning about it have taken positive steps toward curing myself. acid stomach = alkaline blood, alkaline stomach equals acid blood because undigested food feeds the pathogens that are causing leaky gut. "
Yes, the part about Candida thriving in alkalinity is 100% correct. I have posted the evidence to this previously:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1452732#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1452739#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1868868#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1452747#i
Alkalinity stimulaqes the growth of Candida and converts Candida in to its pathogenic fungal form. It is in this fungal form that Candida forms hyphae that allow it to dig in to tissues causing tissue damage such as leaky gut.
Our intestinal flora generate the acids that keep the Candida under control. And they produce their acids primarily by the fermentation of fibers from plants. This is why I also advise against using enzyme supplements containing cellulase and hemicellulase:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1555407#i
so why do we bother to alkalize? So much conflicting info. Candida will survive in acidic and alkalizing environments.
The alkalinizing to cure disease thing is a myth to begin with. Most pathogens are killed by acids and thrive in alkalinity. This is why we have stomach acid and flora acids to help kill pathogens.
Furthermore, the body maintains its own pH quite well in nearly every case. This is because the body can only live in a narrow pH range. When people try to force their pH in one direction they only put more stress on the body as it has to work harder to deal with the sudden pH shift.
As for Candida, yes you are going to have it either way since Candida is a normal part of the body. The difference is that in an acidic environment the Candida is kept in a yeast form, which does not harm the body. In an alkaline environment the Candida overgrows is a dangerous fungal form.
Wrong and misleading information.
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.
"Effect of pH on in vitro yeast-mycelial dimorphism in genitourinary Candida spp"
Conclusion: "At all three pH levels C. glabrata, C. guilliermondii, C. kefyr andC. parapsilosis isolates (57.1% of the seven Candida species) did not produce any hyphae/filaments (true hyphae) at all (Figs.1 and 2) whereas some isolates of the other species did at pH 5.6 and 7.0. Candida stellatoidea had both yeast and hyphal forms at all pH values (Table1). There was no significant difference in the effect of pH 5.6 and 7.0 on morphology of each of these three species which grew hyphae.
Good, now combine what you have just read with info from your favorite website, wikipedia: "The pH in the colon varies between 5.5and 7 (slightly aci
You have present in a healthy colon conditions in which candida already thrives in its fungal form. Read again: There was no significant difference in the effect of pH 5.6 and 7.0 on morphology of each of these three species which grew hyphae. All the fuss raised about "alkalinity" switching on the fungus gene is completely irrelevant. Not to mention that pH of 6.5 to7 is not alkaline, it is by definition acidic to neutral. This is exactly why impaired bile flow exposes the small intestines to candida overgrowth: because without the exposure to HIGH alkalinity of 8.8 to 9, candida thrives. And this is exactly why restoring bile flow through liver flushing eliminates candida from the small intestines.
Wrong and misleading information.
Not wrong or misleading like the rest of your statements. What I posted is backed by strong scientific evidence as we can all see.
"Effect of pH on in vitro yeast-mycelial dimorphism in genitourinary Candida spp"
Conclusion: "At all three pH levels C. glabrata, C. guilliermondii, C. kefyr andC. parapsilosis isolates (57.1% of the seven Candida species) did not produce any hyphae/filaments (true hyphae) at all (Figs.1 and 2) whereas some isolates of the other species did at pH 5.6 and 7.0. Candida stellatoidea had both yeast and hyphal forms at all pH values (Table1). There was no significant difference in the effect of pH 5.6 and 7.0 on morphology of each of these three species which grew hyphae.
Again, we are discussing Candida albicans, not other species that may have different properties. So your study means nothing here. For example, look at this report on differentiating the two different species of Candida:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC273075/?page=1
And a study showing different properties between these two different species::
http://iai.asm.org/content/58/9/2804
Good, now combine what you have just read with info from your favorite website, wikipedia: "The pH in the colon varies between 5.5and 7 (slightly aci
Very good, you are finally learning. Problem is that you are only talking about the colon not realizing that this is only part of the intestine. Different parts of the intestine have different pH levels. Most of the intestine is slightly acidic from our intestinal flora acids, which help keep Candida albicans under control by turning off the growth gene and keeping the Candida from forming hyphae as the research shows.
You have present in a healthy colon conditions in which candida already thrives in its fungal form.
A healthy colon contains Candida albicans in a yeast, not fungal form, from the present of beneficial flora acids.
Read again: There was no significant difference in the effect of pH 5.6 and 7.0 on morphology of each of these three species which grew hyphae.
And again, we are talking about Candida albicans, not the other species in your one report.
All the fuss raised about "alkalinity" switching on the fungus gene is completely irrelevant.
The only thing that is irrelevant was your one report that did not even mention Candida albicans.
Not to mention that pH of 6.5 to7 is not alkaline, it is by definition acidic to neutral.
I have not seen anyone claim that 6.5 to 7 is alkaline so your comment again is still irrelevant.
This is exactly why impaired bile flow exposes the small intestines to candida overgrowth: because without the exposure to HIGH alkalinity of 8.8 to 9, candida thrives.
Wrong again. Let's take a look at the pH values of the intestine:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10421978
"The intraluminal pH is rapidly changed from highly acid in the stomach to about pH 6 in the duodenum. The pH gradually increases in the small intestine from pH 6 to about pH 7.4 in the terminal ileum. The pH drops to 5.7 in the caecum, but again gradually increases, reaching pH 6.7 in the rectum."
Just so you don't get too confused pH values of 6, 5.7 and 6.7 are all acidic, not alkaline. A pH of 7.4 is slightly, not highly alkaline. So there is only one part of the intestine that is slightly alkaline with the rest being acidic to control Candida albicans overgrowth.
And this is exactly why restoring bile flow through liver flushing eliminates candida from the small intestines.
I have also addressed the myths of "liver flushing" and intrahepatic stones being common previously:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1644737#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1765087#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1674379#i
Unless you have some proof to your claims there is really nothing more to say. But knowing your history of attacking people and being disruptive I am sure that proving you wrong in this post is not going to stop you.
Thanks Hv for your input on the alkaline quackery. Its been stated that plants in nature dont try to kill candida, but they rather try to inhibit it/keep it under control. This is what our friendly bacteria does as well.
HV-- What are your favorite herbs to inhibit/help with candida?