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Please help me. Two years ago I suddenly started having an empty feeling in my stomach right after eating and have been constantly hungry ever since. And it's not just peckishness, it's full on 'eat now or die' starving feeling and I feel weak. I even wake up three or more times a night and have to eat or I can't get back to sleep snd I sweat during the night and have such bad dry eyes that u have to splash water on them to close them during the night. Proteins I find make me feel hungry more, carbs and Sugar make me feel fuller a bit longer. I'm very tired and my skin has become pale and thin and I have lost a lot of muscle but have kept the fat and my skin has lost a lot of collagen and is saggy. I have had so many tests including MRI, diabetes test, endoscopy, scan, thyroid, etc. the only results that came back abnormal were the following. Low iron, low testosterone, and cysts in my liver and ovaries, and low hydrogen on breath test indicating low gut bacteria.
I have tried taking HCL which helps with my energy but does not help my stomach to empty. it still just sits there for hours.
I have constant sloshing fluid in my tummy all day and night.
My urine is very acidic all day, it doesn't even register on the chart that came with the strips. So I tried eating and drinking alkaline things but they only made me feel more hungry, I'm thinking as it dilutes my already low stomach acid.
It feels to me like my tummy just stopped working one day, because I used to get tired after eating for years but that stopped and i no longer have that so I know things are not happening.
I am fed up with doctors here in the UK as they are not taking any further action to help find out what's causing it.
I have been pretty much reading articles and forums non stop for the two years that I have had this and have thought of everything from gastroparesis (I don't think it's that as I have no feeling of fullness or nausea or pain) to adrenal fatigue.
Could it even be parasites? (Liver cysts are mysterious)
Please help me.
Thank you.
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- Re: Help me! Im starving r1deforever
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This is a reply to # 2,320,725Perhaps it would help if you could detail your age, height, weight, your diet now, and your diet before the problem began, how many calories you eat, what your bowel movements are like, what medicines / herbs / regimes you have tried and their results.
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This is a reply to # 2,320,725parasites are designed to force you to eat to feed them. They don't care much for meat but they love carbs.
Most likely you have ascaria in your small intestine. DXs test will not find it.
Take some fenbendazole and watch your stool for evidence.
I never, ever felt full until I started killing the parasites. They had full control of my eating. If I tried to fast I got terrible pain in the upper right quadrant. It was the ascaria eating at my tissues. It would quite immediately when I ate.
You will have to do like I did and just assume you have parasites and go on a porotocal. All the symptoms you DX found are a result of parasites. If you have cysts then the infestation is pretty bad.
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This is a reply to # 2,320,725dry eyes that u have to splash water on them to close them during the night.
cysts in my liver and ovaries, and low hydrogen on breath test indicating low gut bacteria.
stomach to empty. it still just sits there for hours.
I have constant sloshing fluid in my tummy all day and night.
....my already low stomach acid.
It feels to me like my tummy just stopped working one day,
You have major symptoms of severe Iodine deficiency. Cysts, dry eyes, low stomach acid are all Iodine deficiency symptoms. Iodine deficiency is especially severe in women more than men.
I suggest that you take the Dr. Brownstein Iodine Protocol:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IzFKo-r2-Nn8_z0KUrOhHdlanzSuhkuV3QO03XF6YTY/edit#
Best to you,
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This is a reply to # 2,320,733Thank you. I did buy Iodine and asked a lady who has a weird crystal machine device to test if my body would react positively to it, but she said no, so I didn't take any. I'm not sure I trust her machine thing though.- Re: Help me! Im starving grizz
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This is a reply to # 2,320,874There is only 1 valid test for Iodine deficiency:
The Iodine Loading Test
https://www.hakalalabs.com/resources/
More on Iodine:
https://sites.google.com/site/iodinereferenes/home
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This is a reply to # 2,320,879I am in the UK. I am. It sure where I can get that test done over here.
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This is a reply to # 2,320,881Iodine loading test in the UK is here:
http://www.pulsescreening.co.uk/general_tests.html#iodine
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This is a reply to # 2,320,725Sounds like malabsorption, acidosis, with adrenal exhaustion.
There are a couple of options, but a acid tongue pH means low enzymes, the body will not function properly.
Once the pH goes out of wack, ROS sets in, systems start to malfunction, Bacterial balance goes out, Minerals and metals get lost, health declines. Magnesium, Potassium, and Calcium are lost.
Without a gut bacterial biodome lipids, oils, and essential fats are not absorbed properly, leading to even more acid.
Toxins can backup causing distorted system functions, The body will make it a priority to get essential elements first, and ignore longer term processes. After a while the junk piles up.
Ultimately the body looses enzymes which are part of the regulation loop of the key digestion processes. Usually there are signs of poor digestion, odor, gas, pains, undigested foods, leading towards malabsorption.
http://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/gastrointestinal-disorders/malabsorption-syndromes/overview-of-malabsorption
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I suggest a hair analysis to evaluate your system status.
Cannot tell if this is a acidifying process, or the downward spiral of acidosis.
If there is an underlying infection, it certainly is secondary to low bacteria, acid, and poor enzyme protein absorption. Protozoans are known to infect the GI tract, and cause oil to float on the top of the water in the toilet bowl.
parasites can cause oil in the bowl as well.
I really believe in Papain powder and probiotic225, but if your PH is not high enough, probiotics will be a waste of money.
- Re: Help me! Im starving joegrane
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This is a reply to # 2,320,725You've gotten good replies from our members.
Hopefully you'll tell us more about your diet and the supplements you've tried.
I'd definitely continue with the support for stomach acid. You could also include apple cider vinegar, zinc, table salt , some iodine, etc.
I think you also need zinc to convert DHEA towards testosterone. Those steroid hormones are made from cholesterol. Maybe you are not able to absorb it. Was your cholesterol low?
You need stomach acid to absorb minerals needed to raise your pH and to absorb minerals such as zinc and iron. A messed up gut ecosystem might also affect absorption of iron in another way.
http://www.wellnessresources.com/weight/articles/stunning_discoveries_regarding_iron_obesity_candida_thyroid/
Ascorbic acid--one form of vitamin C--with meals could be considered. It should help you to absorb minerals. Vit C is also involved in production of collagen.
I lost weight while trying to gain it when I had a parasite. A Metametrix stool test reported two parasites that were consistent with my symptoms, especially needing to rush to the toilet at least twice per day on short notice.
Did you ever have a stool test for parasites, candida, and gut bacteria?
Do you have a history of taking Antibiotics ? Maybe your gut ecosystem is messed up. Dr Ruggiero has interesting youtube videos on the subject. He probably is one of the best in the world on that topic.
History of candida/yeast infections?
Ever try probiotics and yogurt?
Do you tolerate whey powder?
Have you ever tried juicing in order to get maximum nutritional benefit and ease of digestion?
I assume you never had gastric bypass surgery.
Did you have your vitamin D tested, especially in the Winter. If I were you I'd try to get plenty of sunlight when possible in the UK to try to absorb more Vit D.
http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/vitamin-d-the-1-anti-cancer-vitamin/
A natural or functional medicine doctor would probably also want to know more about your stools--color, consistency, regularity.
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This is a reply to # 2,320,781Hi.. Thank you.
My vitamin d and cholesterol were normal. I haven't taken Antibiotic for over ten years and I hadn't taken any around the time it all started. I do take vitamin c and zinc, but I haven't been on it for long and haven't noticed a huge difference if any. Probiotics don't make much difference either. I tried a few.
I have a small pharmacy of herbs in my cupboard. Have tried many things, but I am sticking only to vitamin c, zinc, hcl for now until I find out more about what's going on.
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- Re: Help me! Im starving WhoAreYouNormally
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 2,320,725It sounds like you have multiple issues going on.
For the suspected low stomach acid you take betaine hcl and slowly ramp the dosing until you feel a slight burn, then you back down a little and this is your correct dose. You might need a LOT more than you are taking currently.
Also helpful is more salt in the diet, ginger, apple cider vinegar, beets and lemons.
The third macronutrient you left out was fat. Try butter, coconut oil, cream, animal fats like beef, duck, chicken, lard, avocado, and high quality cold pressed seed oils/olive oil.
Start with coffee or saline enemas and one or two castor oil purges. There is a whole cascade of interdependant hormones involved in digestion starting with the stomach, then triggers for the gall bladder, pancreas, intestinal enzymes, etc. It's a given your liver is congested as well.
Look into Ray Peat,Larry Wilson for different dietary strategies.
Iodine protocol for cysts, but start slow and stop if anything bad happens.
Liver cyst = high chance of parasites.
Probably you're also hypothyroid and hypoadrenal, get your body temperature above 98.6 consistently by any means possible.
I suspect saturated fat will be your friend for now and help you get to a non-starving state of being.
- Re: Help me! Im starving r1deforever
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This is a reply to # 2,320,851Well, in general posts like this to me seem way too complicated.
Surely the best thing is simply to return to the natural functioning of your body with a natural foods diet.
Taking all sorts of concoction surely is only a short term strategy. They are hardly a return to naturalness are they. It's just more weird stuff. Fine in the short-term, but the bigger picture is return your healthy, diet and lifestyle to a natural one.- Re: Help me! Im starving WhoAreYouNormally
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This is a reply to # 2,320,855Complex answers for complex problems.
It's a complicated world.
Maybe in the year 1400 she could 'return' to a natural diet, but at that point lard and veggies would be considered natural if you lived in europe.
Sometimes you have to prime the pump to get people out of a rut.
Anyway, diet is not the fix for everyone in every situation, which is why you see a lot of success stories on cz outside the Diet Forum s. And it's why you see a LOT of very healthy people who eat absolute crap food with impunity.
There is no 'surely' in health, otherwise there would be 1 forum on 1 website and everyone would have perfect success.
And though trying 5 or 6 things might sound complicated to you, I always have a plan for people when I give advice, even if they don't choose to follow through.
I don't see any real help from you here for the o.p., whereas at least I made some specific food suggestions.
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- Re: Help me! Im starving Sigurros
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This is a reply to # 2,320,851Thanks. I have tried upping the dose if hcl, I got up to about 6 or 7 but I found that I became a bit dizzy and felt very acidic and my skin got more rubbery and pale and my stomach still did not empty. I will increase my fats, thanks.
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- additional info... Sigurros
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 2,320,725Thank you for your replies.
Here's more details. I am a 31 year old female. My weight is about 8 stone and I am 5'4". So I am thin/normal but I have very little muscle left so it's mostly fat, and I would definitely be overweight if I ate whenever my told me to, but sometimes I just can't keep up with the eating. My diet at the moment us nothing in particular, I just eat anything and everything as and when I feel hungry. Sometimes I eat well, sometimes I don't. It doesn't seem to make a huge difference what I eat.
I did try various diets including low carb or low sugar, etc. the inky thing I noticed was that if I eat for example a quality Hugh protein meal like a piece if salmon and broccoli for example, it will not satisfy me at all. I will have to run right back to the kitchen for something different.
I mostly have constipation, I go to the toilet once every one or two days, but I occasionally get loose stool, particularly if I drink water or alkaline herbal teas, green teas tend to make me feel hungrier.
I had my thyroid tested, tsh/t3/t4 (but not reverse t3) and the GP said it was normal.
Before all this started my diet was poor, lots if carbs and sugar, little exercise (due to extreme tiredness). Then I decided to change to the GAPS diet, but it may have been too sudden as almost immediately I began to feel the emptiness and hunger. And ever since that day I have been the same.
Other tests that I gave gad that came back normal were morning blood cortisol, cholesterol, triglycerides.
I have not had a stool test done.
I was told by an alternative hralth woman that I had candida. She told me with a weird machine thing and a crystal.
I did have a hair mineral analysis done about five years ago (way before these new stomach issues) and they said I was in adrenal fatigue, but stupidly I didn't follow their protocol properly.
- Re: additional info... r1deforever
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This is a reply to # 2,320,872In my opinion one good option is simply to give yourself a trajectory of the ideal diet. It might take a while to shift towards it but ... the results would be worth it.
For me trying one or another weird diet is just more crap for the body. Really what is your body thinking as all these weird things and ideas come down the pipe. The body was designed to eat certain things, so feed it those things.
Other medicines and protocols can be useful to push things along, but on a temporary basis.
That is my personal view.
If found this book and philosophy on the following website / doctor etc.. . There is a $20 book. Basically it is the philosophy of feeding your body ideal and basic foods, mostly fruits and vegetables. And that is it.
It's not fancy. And that is the point.
http://colitisandcrohnscenter.com/- Re: additional info... overtheedge
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 2,320,906When I first got over my extreme constipation it was because of Betaine HCL and digestive enzymes, i don't know which one caused the change. I burnt myself out at a point years later and those two stopped working, it took a lot of experimentation but I found DGL, a form of licorice, gave me regularity so i chewed 2-4 of those a day and eventually I stopped having to to be regular.
Lately I've been taking nutrients in powdered forms and seeing great benefit. Whey protein powder, pea protein powder, even some ration tabs that turn to powder when chewed, they all give me energy like nothing else has. I'm guessing the reason these work is because my gut is really messed up and these powders are easy for the body to take in. Maybe such powders would help you too; proteins making you more hungry seems like a stomach acid thing since the acid is needed to break the proteins down but considering your taking HCL i don't know anything but the powders to recommend for the hunger. Maybe you have some Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth, you did say you did a hydrogen test right, is that the kind that would have picked up dysbiosis?
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This is a reply to # 2,323,127Hi. Sorry for late reply. Thanks for your advice, I will maybe try the powders.
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This is a reply to # 2,320,906HI. Sorry for late reply. I'm not entirely convinced they simply eating healthy will fix me. afyer all what's the point of eating broccoli if my stomach won't digest it. There's something more going on, still going on. I had to fast overnight last night for an X Ray and I woke up sweaty and my skin was all sticky and I felt like I was going to pass out. After the X Ray I ate, but of course, I was immediately hungry again. I am so low and I can't see a way out except to borrow a LOT of money and consult a private functional Doctor.
- Re: additional info... grizz
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This is a reply to # 2,332,066Here's a worthwhile test. Look in your mouth. Do you have a white tongue or do you have white patches in your mouth?
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- Re: additional info... Sigurros
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This is a reply to # 2,332,073No I have no whiteness on my tongue, but I have tooth debts in the sides of my tongue. An acupuncturist told me this was a sign of spleen issues. And a naturopath told me it was a sign of malnutrition, I think they're probably both right.
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This is a reply to # 2,332,073No, just teeth marks on the sides of my tongue. Someone told me this showed spleen issues and another told me it was malnutrition
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