High cortisol adrenal fatigue 
Sah6n
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ive been dealing with chronic fatigue and severe anxiety for over 2 years now after a 6 month bout of insomnia. I realized last September that I had adrenal fatigue after reading james wilsons book. I started on his supplements and didn't notice much difference. I then read chronic fatigue 2000 and noticed that I was much calmer after taking seriphos, which made sense as I've always tested high for cortisol. I've been taking a large dose of the seriphos for 4 months along with adaptogens, b vitamins, vit c, healthy diet, etc. I've also been sleeping on a magnetico bed for a month. I've made a lot of progress as I would say the brain fog has mostly gone, but I'm still very fatigued and still require atenolol for anxiety although the dose is down to 25 mg from 50. I've seen a lot of people post that adrenal fatigue typically takes 6 months to 2 years to recover, but I feel as though they are talking about low cortisol. Can anyone let me know what the normal recovery time is for high cortisol adrenal fatigue? Also is there anything else I should be doing? Are there any kind of things I can look at to gauge how much longer this will take?
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- Re: High cortisol adrenal fatigue Pamster
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This is a reply to # 2,297,570So glad that you see improvement, even though you still have a journey ahead.
I had chronic fatigue, adrenal fatigue, along with 6 chronic infections.
I was diagnosed 5 years ago. The 1st year, all my infections were gone, and I recovered from CF.
However, thyroid and adrenals are a completely different story. If there is actual junk sitting in them, they can't work. Or if you pushed yourself past your healthy limits for a long time (that's what I did).
The #1 supplement that effects my entire system is vit d. But I can only absorb it in sheep's wool, liquid form. And I have to take it with a small amount of coconut oil under the tongue.
A sign of adrenal fatigue is cubicle folds under the eye. During my CF, mine were terrible. Do you have them? They come back when I don't sleep.
Biochemics say that the cubicle fold shows a deficiency of absorbable calcium fluoride, which can be found in tissue salts (from any health food store).
Keep us posted. Even a wee bit of improvement is encouraging to all of here!
- Re: High cortisol adrenal fatigue joegrane
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This is a reply to # 2,297,570What test reported high levels of cortisol, for example, a blood test before 9am?
Check out this on the subject.
http://www.canaryclub.org/adrenal-article-980/706-cortisol-1-or-4.html
That fit a close female friend's situation rather well--long history of PTSD, anxiety, poor sleep, plenty of brain fog, expecially in stressful situations. She could get some things done in the morning, including light exercise, but not in stressful situations and did not do as well later in the day. She usually needed a nap although this was in her 40s while eating a healthy Diet and not being significantly overweight.
Her AM blood and saliva were similarly normal maybe even high side of normal; however, her saliva cortisol was low the remainder of the day.
Have you gotten a reasonable sex hormone panel? If you do, I suggest that you pay the extra to include pregnenolone, especially if you suspect "estrogen dominance" due to low progesterone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Steroidogenesis.svg
Roughly what is your age? Obviously there are some different considerations for a 50-something female rather than a 30-something.
More later after your reply.
- Re: High cortisol adrenal fatigue Sah6n
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This is a reply to # 2,297,582Hi, I just got saliva results and they are as follows.
Reference Range: Result:
8:00a.m.: 0.025 − 0.600, 1.200 ug/dL
Noon: <0.010 − 0.330, 0.270
4:00p.m.: 0.010 − 0.200, 0.076
Midnight: <0.010 − 0.090, 0.021
So very high in the morning and declining throughout the rest of the day. I've also done blood test before at various times and 24 hr urine, all of which come back high. I'm a 30 year old male, and sex hormones are ok. Testosterone of around 5-600, DHEA is a little low, but well within range. Any additonal advice you can give is appreciated.
- Re: High cortisol adrenal fatigue joegrane
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This is a reply to # 2,298,166So adrenal cortex weakness does not seem to be the cause, assuming you were not especially amped up on the day of your saliva test.
Do you have symptoms of catecholamine Depression and inattentive ADD. That would likely be related to the adrenal medulla.
When that is the problem I'd expect the person to be able to have enough physical and mental energy to do the things he likes to do but not so much to do boring tasks.
You could also investigate low thyroid but I would not settle for just a TSH test. I'd want to include Free T3, maybe more.
Eventually you could look at mitochondria support.
Do you feel lots of stress and anxiety?
- Re: High cortisol adrenal fatigue Sah6n
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This is a reply to # 2,298,222I wouldn't say I'm depressed, but would say physical response to anxiety/stress is very elevated. Taking atenelol for stress symptoms including tachycardia/heart palpitations. I've also had pretty bad diahrea. Fatigue is bad, but not overwhelming. I'm able to work and lift weights at the gym, but I still feel very out of it most of the time. Also, fatigue is worst in the morning and lessens throughout the day. I don't think I've had Free T3 pulled, but I had some thyroid labs pulled a while back. What kind of Mitochondria support would u recommend? My thyroid lab results are included below.
Thyroid Peroxidase (Tpo) Ab 7 0-34 IU/mL
Thyroglobulin, Antibody <1.0 0.0-0.9
T4,Free(Direct) 1.13 0.82-1.77 ng/dL
Reverse T3, Serum 13.9 9.2-24.1 ng/dL- Re: High cortisol adrenal fatigue joegrane
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This is a reply to # 2,298,273look up "catecholamine depression" and inattentive ADD. They can be related. It has almost nothing to do with feeling sad or "depressed" according to the popular understanding of the word.
I'm not suggesting that you have it, just that you'll want to rule it out. It involves feeling unmotivated and lethargic except when something interesting is happing. You might feel glued to your chair when life is not interesting.
You could check out selenium. It can be good for a variety of situations and is a rather safe and inexpensive place to start.
http://www.wellnessresources.com/health/articles/seleniums_vital_role_in_thyroid_hormone_function/%20tionist
http://www.healthline.com/health/selenium-an-essential-mineral#1
Eventually you'll want to check your iron levels.
Some people find methylation support--multi B containing B12, folic acid, etc to be energizing.
This won't apply to most people but I had a heavy metal problem. HMs affect so many systems in the body, a number of which contribute to fatigue when not working properly.
CoQ10 and carnitine are two to consider for mitochondria support.
My previously good health went South around your age. I did not even start to get improvement until a friend convinced me to stop treating my mainstream doctor like a benevolent medical god.
Even some doctors had a long list of mysterious symptoms and had a tough time figuring out what was going on. Dr Mark Hyman and Dr Jerry Tennant were two doctors who were essentially disabled by their mysterious med problems. The solutions for them were very different, but in both cases their mainstream doctors did not have any solutions.
tennant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XicmDDmVBs
hyman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkxk7nod33o
Don't forget to check out GABA, glutamine and magnesium for anxiety.
Good luck as you try to chip away at your medical problems. - Re: High cortisol adrenal fatigue sicknessofsept
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This is a reply to # 2,298,273You should stay away from the gym until the adrenal fatigue clears. It will elevate your cortisol levels even further, and eventually you might become depleted. Just rest for now. I distinctly remember crashing hard after lifting weights while I had AF.
- Re: High cortisol adrenal fatigue jasonk
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This is a reply to # 2,298,273I take a homeopathic remedy for anxiety. It is called "aconitum napellus 30c." Works very well for me, especially before presenting to large groups.
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Hi, I suggest you read the Naïs SOUBIROU method is simple enough to understand. This explains an exercise to do (it looks a bit like a meditation blend EFT). The booklet is called "Se délivrer de la boule au ventre" you can not really find out in KDP Select or e-book. The raissonnement explained that helps to release internal tensions we accumulate after the anger and aggressiveness that we contain within our being we feel soothed and relaxed because we breack free from tensions. I really advise people stressed and anxious to apply this method. Personally, I found the wellness thanks to that. - Re: High cortisol adrenal fatigue jasonk
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This is a reply to # 2,297,570Stop drinking fluoridated water and using fluoridated toothpaste. Fluoride is a well-known neurotoxin that is more toxic than lead and arsenic.
The only way to remove 100% of the fluoride from water is to use a distiller. Thankfully, there are electric counter top distillers available for under $200.
Fluoride damages the endocrine system as well as the pineal gland. This is what appears to be causing so many sleep disorders in people.
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