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I started Paragone just before the new year and on the day I upped the dosage I experienced some mild chest pain (I am 28 F and healthy as far as recent check up says!). It was the holiday so lots of drinking and over eating and a couple cigarettes were involved, so I didn't think much of it. That night I took my evening round of Paragone and went to sleep. I woke up to what I thought was a mosquito but turned out to be ringing in my ears (never had this before) and some more chest pain (nothing alarming but kind of a dull, burning that made me anxious). Additionally I started having extremely rapid heart rate from this point on for the next few days. I'm talking at rest shooting from 65-70 to 100-114 in moments which is VERY uncomfortable. I discontinued any toxic behavior and discontinued Paragone to be sure my health was okay. After 5 days off the cleanse and feeling completely better I started Paragone again, beginning with the low dose yesterday which I only took twice and drank some dandelion tea, upped my water and took some other vitamins as well (l-arginine, orthinine, probiotics, coq10) but low and behold I woke up to quite loud ringing in my ears again!! Somewhat subsided as I got up and walked around but it's rather annoying. Other than that I feel fine but I'm nervous the next thing is recurrence of the chest pain and rapid heart rate which was a nightmare and then gave me anxiety. I've never seen anything evident in my stool for the record but also haven't made it past day 4 of cleanse.
My question is, are these symptoms from die-off or could I be having a weird reaction to one of the herbs? Can I take DE while cleansing to help the process or is that overdoing it? I really want to complete this cleanse but I'm concerned as I really did not feel well (in fact went to two urgent cares on New Year's Day but we're both closed and had to drive to my parents house as I was feeling faint and took an hour and a half for my heart rate to go down to a level where I could drive safely!)
Anyone else experience freaky symptoms like that from the cleanse? I started this bc my roommate turned me on to the idea, I didn't have any symptoms or health problems I was attributing to parasites to begin with but figured Why not!?
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This is a reply to # 2,295,613I've never used anything but Dr. Clark's protocol, and never had ANY problem with those herbs other than mild upset stomach if I took too many cloves at once, instead of breaking the dose in half. And of course used the zapper as her protocol requires. It really isn't optional.
What herbs or other ingredients are in paragone? I can tell you what's probably the problem. If anything it may be toxins the parasites are releasing, but those symptoms are too much for that., I think, because you're only killing them in your digestive tract..
Of course, I've noticed other posters here saying pretend symptoms to try to drive people away from even trying such things. My hope is that you're not one of them, eh?
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No definitely not. I am super sensitive to.. Everything. No allergies but I can't even drink caffeine normally. I only took one dose today and felt a bit weird and uncomfortable. my heart rate spiked again tonight but now that I realize it's from the cleanse I stayed calm and it slowed eventually. Must just be a reaction to herbs or either toxins as others mentioned. The more water I have the better I feel and also, I'm not regular so I started taking some probiotics and increasing fiber which I strongly recommend!- Re: Paragone symptoms- ringing/buzzi... #461
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This is a reply to # 2,295,723So what is meant by 'super sensitive'? It makes you break out in hives? You get diarrhea? Your face breaks out in purple pimples? Kinda hard to help with such a limited descriptive symptom.
The only herb, after daily use for 2 years was hawthorn--it made me get heart palpitations. I just took it for too long, when my body stopped needing it, I suspect. Any hawthorn in it? I doubt a couple days or weeks would be long enough though.- Re: Paragone symptoms- ringing/buzzi... Julzm25
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This is a reply to # 2,295,736Caffeine makes me have a racing heart, chest tightness, and light headed. Sometimes it does upset my stomach as well. Currently up at 4 am with a heart rate of 98 (uncomfortable when you're trying to sleep). there's no Hawthorne in it or any herbs I recognize as a stimulant but I'll have to research all of them individually tomorrow.
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This is a reply to # 2,295,749Your description actually does sound like an allergy. Allergies aren't just breaking out in hives or mucus reaction in the lungs. It can vary a lot more than that. And allergies can be dealt with via EFT.
I just remembered I personally have stopped what I later realized was Anaphylactic shock with EFT (got bit by a brown recluse spider and didn't realize it until the next day) although it took longer without me knowing what it was (I almost broke down and went to the hospital--shows how bad it got, and unless you're a well practiced EFT practitioner, I wouldn't advise doing this at home). I was just tapping for not being able to breath very well. So it took multiple times and every angle of not being able to breath well I could think of, whereas if I'd known, probably a couple rounds would have done it.
So if you want out from under all these sensitivities aka allergies, you might want to learn EFT. It works great for healing stuff too, as long as you figure it out for yourself and not think the medical industry's version of what's wrong is the correct info.
90% of the time. I'm finding tapping for their version does nothing, which means it's not the real reason versus that EFT doesn't work. Once you find the real reason, and tap for it, whatever it is will go away or at least improve significantly. Obviously broken legs can't heal instantly. But EFT can shorten the healing time significantly.
Have a friend who had surgery on her shoulder, and healed it with EFT's help. Her physical therapists were stunned. She was back to using it normally in slightly more than 3 months, whereas the norm is more like a just under a year.
But try instead to do it with a gob of supplements and waste all that money if you like. I personally would rather have that money to do fun things like the movies, dinner, vacations, etc.
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This is a reply to # 2,295,852Thanks for your response. I don't have any other known allergies but it certainly felt like my body was responding in an an allergic way! I will research EFT, sounds interesting.
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This is a reply to # 2,295,723Do you have thyroid problems or gluten sensitivity or casein sensitivity?
Do you have any auto-immune disease?- Re: Paragone symptoms- ringing/buzzi... Julzm25
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This is a reply to # 2,296,677No, none. Perfectly healthy. I used to have IBS but not for 6 months. I have panic attacks but other than that everything is normal.
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This is a reply to # 2,296,678Does coffee cause irritability and insomnia?
Are you on hormonal birth control for a long time?
Does green tea or green tea extract have similar effect on you as coffee?
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Yes coffee makes me feel very irritable and even if I drink in the morning I will not sleep well that night. It also makes my chest tight. I was on the pill for a very long time and just went off 6 months ago and haven't had coffee since. I drink green tea in the morning (it's not high in caffeine) but I never notice anything. Even if I have more than one cup of tea I don't feel as if I have had any caffeine at all so I guess no to that. What is the correlation with the birth control?- Re: Paragone symptoms- ringing/buzzi... want-to-heal
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This is a reply to # 2,296,840The thing about hormonal birth control is that it cause overload of estrogen or hormone fluctuations in the body. When there is too much estrogen in the body (coming from the pill) or too much hormone fluctuations (particularly estrogen) it can cause auto-immunity (the immune system attacks a part of the body). In women this usually result in Hashimoto's, a thyroid disease, where the immune system attacks the thyroid gland.
Do not use hormonal birth control for more than 2 months. Take a break of at least one month after that or else this can cause a permanent damage in hormone regulations.
Coffee (caffeine) is an immune stimulant. Irritability and insomnia after drinking coffee is a symptom of overactive immune system. Either you have a chronic pathogen infection (virus, bacteria, etc) or you have an autoimmune disease.
In case this is Hashimoto's, coffee will cause symptoms of hyperthyroidism (overactive thyroid).
I may be wrong and this can be an allergy to coffee because I don't know much about your situation but the long term use of hormonal birth control and the coffee symptoms seems like you have an overactive immune system.
Does coffee cause hot flashes or make you feel hyperactive?
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This is a reply to # 2,297,138Wow. I am going to have to look into that. I used to be able to drink coffee without an issue. I am going to research this more, thank you so much for that response.
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This is a reply to # 2,295,613There are 3 items that could be causing problems:
Undecylanic acid (derived from castor oil)
Wormwood
Black walnut
I knew many people who had problems with the Undecylanic acid. Wormwood (artemesia) and Black-Walnut can cause problems as well.- Re: Paragone symptoms- ringing/buzzi... sdrt123
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This is a reply to # 2,295,680Good point - It well could be but the experiences of about 3 or 4 people had adverse reactions to it and it was surmised that it was due to toxicity.
Personally I get good results from caprylic acid which is derived from coconut oil, monlauric acid is another coconut based oil that has strong antimicrobial activities. Some swear by just using coconut oil. The interesting thing about the coconut based oils is that they have diverse killing power (viral, bacterial, protozoa and yeast/fungus). As far as I know, it does not have worm killing power but I think there are many situations in which worm parasites are suspected when in fact other pathogens are to blame. So these coconut oils can be a big help due to the diverse killing action.
Monolauric Acid
http://www.thornton-health.com/articles/monolauric_acid.shtml
Caprylic Acid
http://altmedicine.about.com/od/coconutoil/a/Caprylic-Acid.htm
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This is a reply to # 2,295,716Ok good to know! I have some organic coconut oil I am going to add to my smoothie tomorrow!! Will let you know how I feel. Really want to keep it up this time and hoping symptoms subside after a few days of consistency and detoxing!
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This is a reply to # 2,295,716yes, i studied those about a year ago when i thought i had candida and/or gluten sensitivity, celiac. I think my case is most likely driven by parasites though and that any candida is a secondary effect.
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This is a reply to # 2,295,726Well could be - parasites (or rogue bacteria) can damage the gut environment where yeast/fungus can now take hold. Protozoa are common among the parasite community and not recognized as being a problem. This is what I contracted and they can be quite debilitating. It is a good idea to test with some qualified labs (I like ParaWellness Labs).
Something else I ran across about fungus/yeast
from herbs2000.com (a very good resource)
The fungicidal inherent in the cinnamon was displayed and confirmed during the course of an incredible experiment, the results of which were published in the journal of Food Science, 1974, most yeasts and fungi were easily overpowered by the active chemicals present in cinnamon and this property is of great therapeutic value. Cinnamon can help rid food of alfatoxins produced by plants, and such alfatoxins can easily come into food, especially when white breads, raisin bread, rye breads and all kinds of whole wheat breads are manufactured without using the common mold inhibiting substances, different types of alfatoxins can get into the bread - the alfatoxins are produced by a group of common dangerous and toxic molds, some of whom are known to cause fatalities in animals and humans and have been connected to the causative origin of liver cancer. Many types of food which are consumed on a daily basis can be affected by these toxins.
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