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it was january 25, 2015. my grandson noah and i had just spent the day at a friends house. my friend is actually a person working for my wife. he is a young man with two small children. the oldest is a boy the age of noah. they are good friends and quite compatible.
the dad is a good friend of mine, as mich as any hermit like me can have a friend. i went over this day so he could switch out the struts on my old volvo. he does that kind of thing on the side and i like the benefit of my service dollar to go to friends instead of strangers if possible. so the kids played and men worked in the garage.
we left before dark and headed home, about 35 miles. the car felt a lot better. as i got closer to home i was noticing a slight glitch still. vovlo has a complicated set up as opposed to all the other struts my friend had done. it must be part of that luxury ride, which it certainly has. it was slight but a noise was still there. we would get to make the trip again, it seemed.
noah fell asleep on the toll roads so the winding hills as we approached lago vista was a quiet ride. this stretch is filled with cops of every stripe. there are two counties, three cities, state cops and constibles. it never pays to speed. its all the cops have to do.
i was almost home on a four lane road with a 30mph limit. it goes past an elementary, winds past the cop shop and library and town hall and parks association. then it makes another turn and goes down hill slightly as it heads for the lake. there are a few businesses just before my turn off.
as i turn the corner to head down the hill i glance at my speedometer. cops could be lurking and it is dusk so its really hard to see. this place is literally crawling with deer. i am in the right hand lane and paying attention to the side of the road. i glance at the one oncoming traffic - a white suv of some kind. i turn back to the side of the road to see if i can see any eyes looking out at me.
as i near the road to my street i slow down and signal and change lanes. there i notice for the fist time a patrol car triple parked in front of the businesses just before my turnoff. he has his park lights on but no headlights. as i am nearly parallel with him he turns on his lights and does a u turn to stop me. i pull over as soon as i make my turn and he pulls in behind me.
this is somewhat of a surprise to me.the cops stopped my wife and i when we first got to lago vista three years before. they warned us of a light out on our car and told us then that they just look for drunks and drugs and welcome to the community, a resort and retirement enclave 30 minutes from austin on the north side of lake travis. i figured maybe he didnt recognize the car or maybe he noticed i hadnt put my 2015 registration sticker on the windshield.
im a little fuzzy on the initial contact because i wasnt alarmed in any way. he told me i was speeding and my registration was expired. im thinking "what?" i said to him youve got to be kidding and he said no, he had me 44 in a 30. he asked me if i was in a hurry. i said no, im just going home. he said i slowed down when i saw him. i said this is where i always slow down and turn to go home. he asked me again if i was in a hurry for some reason, some emergency or something. i thought about it briefly and said no, my grandson is sleeping in the back and im just going to the house with him. i told him there was no way i was speeding.
he went back to his car and by the time he came back to me i had found my sticker in the glove box. he scratched that off the ticket and handed it to me, telling me the usual court date and sign here and put that sticker on as soon as i get home. when he left my car and let me go i had two impressions. one was that he decided to pull me over at the spur of the moment, like maybe he saw the 2014 number on my windshield. the other was that it didn go the way he thought it would and he kinda regretted giving me a ticket. just an impression but something didnt set right with him. i wasnt the moving violator he was looking for.
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well, i had to show up to court to make my plea or cut a deal or pay or something.
the room was full of people with long faces, some kids with parents, etc. when i got before the judge he took this stance like a parent with me - mr wilson, 56 years old and speeding - in a tone like i should know better.
well, i told him the basic story - i wasnt speeding and i didnt do anything wrong and no way was i doing 44 and the only thing i am guilty of is stopping for this officer. i plead not guilty and got another date to set the trial.
- second appearance trapper/kcmo
9 y
691
This is a reply to # 2,262,726at the second date with my new mistress i brought the kids with me. i didnt have a lot of choice.
the prosecutor took me back into the jury room. the kids romped around while we talked.
she asked me what i wanted to do and i said i what i said before - not guilty. she asked if i wanted to take a deferral and it would go away in 90 days. i said no, im not guilty. she told me sho could srt up a drivers course and that would make it go away. i said that was a waste of time as i have driven commercially in different jobs and am a good driver, having driven most of my life. she asked me if i wanted a judge or jury trial. i said i wanted a jury trial.
i also told her the whole story and explained i wasnt speeding and that i am also a good citizen, shop locally whenever possible, support the community and attend functions like parades and the fireworks ont he fourth of july. i feed the deer and watch for them religiously. i usually have my kids with me and take pride in being careful and watch for other people and school zones and blah, blah blah. im just who they want in town. also, i have enough burden caring for my grandkids with no help from anyone, especially the state. i dont need this.
she looked at her computer and said she reviewed the tape and didnt see anything wrong with the the stop. then she said she would talk to the officer and if there was something iffy about it she would drop the charges and send me notice.
thats fair. better than a slap in the face. i took the kids and left.
between this meeting and getting notice of trial i had moved and was dealing with this spider bite. they didnt have my new address so i got notice about two weeks before trial, the letter dated about ten days before i received it being forwarded.
i though about what i would do. i knew glax had been fighting a ticket and asked her what she thought. as this loving woman is compelled to do, she sent me about twenty emails with all kinds of info in them. i glanced at a couple of them but havent even opened most of them. the subjects alone and what little i did see and hear from her convinced me that i would have to be like them to play their game. im not like them. so i took the lords advice and prepared nothing. i just kept the truth of it in my head as clear as i could and figured the truth would have to do.- Re: second appearance johng
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This is a reply to # 2,262,730so how did it go? usually the accused word's against the cop. depending on the locality, and your circumstances, it usually cuts against the accused.
- jury selection trapper/kcmo
9 y
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This is a reply to # 2,262,730i knew jury selection was important but not as important as it once was. judges instructions insist on conviction if the letter of the law has been broken. no one knows that a juror has all power over the law and can judge both the person and law, together or separately. they can say this law doesnt apply in this case or with this person or that the law shouldnt apply to anyone or that this person shouldnt have this law applied to them, etc, etc. the judge always lies to them and tells them differently. without being informed ahead of time there is no way any of them can have this power. check out the fully informed jury association and see for yourself.
there were about 30 people there to choose from. i am learning this as i go. the prosecutor asks the pprospects a series of questions. they are good ones. problem is i am having to think fast and i dont do real well on my feet. im a ruminate. a clean animal. i chew the cud and then decide. no time for that here. i paid attention best i could. when it was my turn to ask questions i didnt have any. i said her questions were good and helpful. the only other question i could think of was about fija and i think the judge would have let the prosecutor bumb them for cause so why bother.
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before this started i was sitting at the defendants table and my bandage on my leg started leaking honey. the judge and prosecutor took me back and made sure i was ok and wanted to procede. i told them it didnt hurt and that i was fine. it looked awful but i wasnt about to explain anything to them that they had no ability to process. the proght me more bandages and we put them on and i was good to go. the prosecutor was explaining the jury selection when this happened so while she got bandages i aske the judge to explain. he told me the prosecutor would go first. i asked him because i didnt want to use my free three strikes if the prosecutor was gonna strike them anyway. it didnt work out the way he told me.
back to the selction, i was told to select the ones i didnt want. i wasnt sure how to procede so the judge said to reject any from the first six jurors. i selected 2. the the prosecutor selected some. the rest moved up in place. i had one more rejection but missed my opportunity to use it. the one of the new first six that would have gotten rid of ended up as the jury foreman. my instincts were good there, but i missed my opportunity. number seven in line, if i could have rejected that one and got to keep the next in line, she was one i really, really, really wanted. as it turned out, it wouldnt have made any difference.Advertisement
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- the prosecution trapper/kcmo
9 y
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This is a reply to # 2,262,737the prosecution presented the dash cam footage of the stop and presented testimony from the officer who ticketed me.
there was the credibility of the officer - he was on the force for 3 years and his duties were varied but mostly traffic. they showed the taped and he testified to it. the tape showed the officer traveling east on dawn and passing canyon road. a car was approaching coming down dawn street just like i would have been except they were in the left hand lane. another car was going east on dawn in front of the patrol car but it was not white, it was red or some other dark color.
the officer testified with crystal clear clarity about how he noticed me and how his calibrated gun clocked me at 44 miles per hour, just like on the ticket. all of this was covered at some length and in a professional manner.
then they stopped the footage. the prosecutor asked me if i wanted to see the rest of the tape. i said sure, i havent seen any of it before. the rest of it was the officer pulling behind my car and the ensuing conversation. the audio was so overdriven there was no way to make any of it out.
then it was my turn.- cross examination trapper/kcmo
9 y
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This is a reply to # 2,262,738i didnt care about the officers testimony. i asked if there was any other proof, a readout, a time/date stamped printout or picture or anything like that. no.
i said i would like to see the tape again from the beginning.
they started the tape and we got through the first part and i halted it (i wish i could have had the controller but didnt know if i could ask and didnt want to make this last any longer than necessary). i said to the officer that this wasnt right and that i remember him being parked on the side of the road. he said oh no, he was traveling on the street. at this point i really didnt know how to proceed. i felt that pursuing that line would alienate the jury. i decided to proceed to the stop itself and glean something from that.
again, i couldnt make out anything that was said in the audio from the officers mic. i asked him what he said to me. he didnt remember. i told the jury that he asked me if i was in a hurry fro some reason. i asked him what my answer was. he said he didnt remember. i told the jury i was surprised he stopped me and told him i wasnt . i asked him if he remembered telling me he thought i was guilty because i slowed down when i saw him. he said he didnt remember. i aksed him about my grandson asleep in the back seat. he didnt remember. the second time he asked me if there was an emergency or something. he didnt remember. my registration. he didnt remember. he didnt remember a thing about the contact with me.
i was done with him.
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- the defence trapper/kcmo
9 y
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This is a reply to # 2,262,741i didnt have any evidence other than my testimony.
i told the same story i told all along. doing thirty at the top of the hill, looking for deer (i threw in my experience in alsaka with twilight times that are greatly extended and deer (moose) that weight 1200 pounds, not 200) and how i knew at this particular time to pay close attention to that. i said i wasnt speeding, i was the opposite of reckless and was surprised by the traffic stop. im not guilty of anything and cooperated fully when stopped. i again ignored the first part of the tape and told the jury about my conversation witht he officer and that he was polite but tried to entrap me.- closing arguments trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,262,743i declined closing arguments, stating that i would just be repeating myself.
the prosecutor reviewed her case about the tape and testimony to match and then threw in that "mr wilson's memory is a bit fuzzy" regarding the events, alluding to the comments i made about the officer being parked instead of rolling on contact.- the verdict trapper/kcmo
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well, it didnt take the jury long. they had a tape and an officer and a ticket all matching and an old hippie who refuted the only solid evidence presented - the tape. guilty.
the jurors looked pissed. what a waste of an afternoon. if only they knew.- the sentence trapper/kcmo
9 y
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This is a reply to # 2,262,745the jurors cut and ran as fast as they could. that left me and the cop and the prosecutor and the judge and the clerk.
the judge asked if i had anything to say before he passed sentence. i said yes, i cant afford any of this. after a few questions about my circumstances he said he was fining me 25 dollars and $99.10 in court costs. that was nice. it could have been $500. i think he felt that, like i tried to impress on the prosecutor long before, i was already paying my dues raising my own grandkids. it seemed quite nice of him and i appreciated it. maybe he believed me? we talked at recess outside about the lake and alaska. maybe he liked me? that honey and cayenne running down my leg looked scary. maybe he pittied me? oh, and there is no doubt a shitty lawyer could have won that case with as little evidence as they had. maybe he had a twinge of real justice?
- this is where it all came together trapper/kcmo
9 y
668
This is a reply to # 2,262,747the judge was telling me about my rights and i came closer to the bench. he tells me i have a right to appeal and i grab a pen and paper to write this down and said i think thats a good idea.
the clerk looks over and says, "mr wilson, all of that info is on this paperwork i am going to give you." oh, ok, and i stop writing.
just then the prosecutor comes up from behind me and says, "mr wilson, im going to do you a favor. i will give you a deferral on this and after ninety days it will go away and not be on your record." this is the same deal i could have gotten before ecxept the fine is even cheaper. i said, "youre an angel." she said, "mr wilson, youre surrounded by angels."
then i had to approach the clerk and she had the paperwork. i had to plead to the ticket. i had to plead guilty or no contest. i said im still not guilty so it will have to be no contest if i take it. i took it.
then i went home and thought it all over.Advertisement
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- analysis trapper/kcmo
9 y
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This is a reply to # 2,262,748why? why did this woman negate the entire jury trial that she just WON? imagine those jurors if they knew all that went down? that their time waas spent for nothing and thrown in the trash!!
i wasnt some drug mule being cut a deal to turn evidence on the kingpin. i wasnt accessory to murder and being asked to finger the trigger man. this was a traffic ticket. "...against the peace and dignity of the state of texas" said the complaint. what peace? what dignity?
here is what happened.
that PA presented false evidence in a court of law. then she had a law enforcement officer perjure himself under oath in order to corroborate that evidence.
the first part of that tape was not me. that was not the other car on the road going the opposite direction toward me. and that officer was parked on the side of the road with his parking lights on and his headlights off. not one. not two. but three distinct discrepancies on that tape proving it was not my car or the incident in question at all.
the officer had the most selective memory i have ever witnessed, and i have raised three children so thats saying something. there was crystal clarity in every point backing up the video and the ticket but when it came to the video he was frickin sgt schultz. "i dont remember" is all he could say.
so far we have tampering with evidence and purjury.
then, the PA used my mention that there was something wrong with the tape in her closing arguments to impune my testimony. now we have defamation of character.
then the icing on the cake is the deal after a guilty verdict. she only did this when i was showing interest in appealing. she already knew i knew the tape was screwy. i smelled a rat at the time but i took the deal just to put it all to rest if i so chose.
however, by pleading no contest, one gives up all their rights, including their right to appeal.
clever girl. number four - obstruction of justice.
so, by following the lords word i got a lesson for $125 that i couldnt have bought anywhere for any price.- the lesson trapper/kcmo
9 y
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This is a reply to # 2,262,751its a wrap, folks. the more you think about this situation the more it will soak in. this system is corrupt to he core and chock full of demons.
this was a damn speeding ticket. why do this? there is no reason. its who they are. its the scorpion and the frog. the scorpion asks the frog for a ride across the river. the frog says no, youll sting me and we will drown. the scorpion says no, why would i do that? so halfway across the scorpion stings the frog. because hes a scorpion.
these are all snakes. they are snakes all the way up. all the things we talk about here and speculate and wonder about... all the false flags and distractions while shitty laws get passed and convenient suicides out the ass, etc? they are not only true, they are but the very tip of the iceberg. its over. we have been overrun and taken over by dragons and serpents and demon seeds galore.
these people will eat their own young. they wont give a thought about you or me. not. one. twitch.Advertisement
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- Re: the lesson johng
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This is a reply to # 2,262,752a small glimpse at a big system. and something interesting I think, is that the system is not entirely populated by corrupt people. its rather the system itself that forces otherwise decent people to conform to the flow of it. they are often left with little choice, exactly the intent of the engineer behind it all... the beast system.
- Re: the lesson trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,262,776i liked the judge. i think the cop really didnt have much of a choice but to go along. he really didnt remember what happened and was coached(re: reminded) as to what did. the perp is the one who jumped in to cover it up.
still, the cop would raid my house and shoot me on orders. the judge would still steer the jury no matter what. like you said, its baked in the cake but it also takes cooperation from all these others and they have to know what they are doing, no matter how sanctioned.
nuremberg - Re: the lesson trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,262,776covering this subject -
Judgedredd wrote: Here is a sobering thought... based upon knowledge studied 2.5% of the population is intentionally doing evil. That equates to (@ 7.5 billion people on Earth) 187,500,000. 187 million five hundred thousand people.
For the USA @ 325 million or so that equals 8,125,000, just over 8 million people. If you add up all people that work in government at State and Federal level, State and Federal level law enforcement and ditto for the military, then add all State and Federal judiciary that adequately covers it. Mind you, not all people will be actively evil and 17.5% will be at the effect of the 2.5%. But you've seen quite a bit of firing going on recently in the military brass. These are the good guys that have been fired. Not something to dwell on. But it shows what we are up against.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,262,724maybe you're a grandiose drama queen... 20 posts and a bible parable about a traffic ticket? come on dude, you're no hippie either, get real.
- Re: the ticket trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,262,763its just an accurate description of what happened and my opinion about it.
if i have helped you feel better about yourself in comparison to me, glad i could help. if you dont like what i say, dont come to my forum. its that simple and easy, in case it escaped you.- Re: the ticket johng
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what can you expect? #89471
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- Re: what can you expect? glaxony
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This is a reply to # 2,262,820can't win for losing
damned if you do, damned if you don't
caught between a rock and a hard place
do it yourself if you want it done right
deligate deligate deligate schmelligate
said the little red hen
I'll eat it myself...
- Re: what can you expect? glaxony
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- Re: Drama Queen Lol InCharge
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- Re: Drama Queen Lol trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,262,829shit is obvious. shit coming from you is like moisture coming from rain.
- Re: Drama Queen Lol glaxony
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This is a reply to # 2,262,829Please refrain from making mindless robotic comments. The cop had a quota and he was under pressure to meet it. They all are. Speed traps are making cities millions of dollars every year from traffic tickets.
The cops soften the big soakers by writing you a ticket for going 70 instead of 80 so you won't hate them as badly, but that just means you are pleading guilty to going a speed that you were not really going. You lie for them out of gratitude to save yourself some money. White lie, or conditioning?
Why wouldn't they fudge a little on the upside if they haven't met their quotas?
There are two things a judge is required to consider when sitting in judgement: The letter of the law and the intention of the law makers. Do you really think the law makers intended for the government to use speed traps as an alternative form of taxation? I don't. I think they wrote the law to protect the public. And if Trapper was driving home with his precious angel grandchild asleep in the back seat, I am sure he was driving as cautiously as humanly possible.
All that "are you in a hurry?" crap is more conditioning, hypnotic suggestion. They are prepping us to take it deeper and deeper up the ying yang backwards without any butter every chance they get and people are so complacently submissive they don't even realize they have become masochistic. Policing for profit is unethical. It is highway robbery. There is very little difference in that than the stage coach bandits of the wild wild west. It wouldn't surprise me if cops are all reincarnated thieves.
Problem is, they are getting paid pitifully small wages to rob the public and give it to the government so their bosses can skim the profits and embezzle. And that which doesn't get embezzled goes where? How much you wanna bet the judge's street gets paved before the cop's does?
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