Dr Eck and paramin 
amy79
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Something else from the writings of Dr Eck
"dairy products are death for the slow oxidiser"
"Calcium is death for the slow oxidiser"
So if you are taking paramin as part of a slow oxidiser program you are certainly not on the Dr Eck program, far from it. From his writings if he was going to prescribe magnesium for a slow oxidiser is would have been spartan mk which enhances oxidation.
Not trying to be controversial here, just showing how much things have changed since Dr Ecks time.
Part 3 and 4 in this have a sort of highlights section of one of Dr Ecks reports. If anyone knows how to get hold of the full 85 page report I would be interested. The purchasing process of this site seems a little out of date.
http://www.healthreport.net/curingchronicfat.html
- Re: Dr Eck and paramin MCW
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This is a reply to # 2,087,418I am so glad you are bringing this up because this is exactly what was addressed to me once I switched practitioners recently... I was on paramin for almost a year and was told that should never have been given to me due to being a slow oxidizer. I am now on Spartan MK as part of my program even though I am with TEI they said this will be great as part of my protocol, the practitioner I am with follows Dr. Eck's writings.
I am so glad you brought this up for others as this was a huge shock to me when I found out the details behind it and it made so much sense as to why I had such bad symptoms with the paramin but was always told they were detox when in fact it was wrong. I unfortunately didn't have time to jot this all down when I was on the phone with my practitioner and didn't want to relay the information in a mixed way so I am really glad you have this verbatim to share with everyone. I think this is a huge flaw in the NB for some practitioners who don't understand what paramin should be used for.
I got a health newsletter from wellness shopping center that was one part of dr. eck's writings. This particular newsletter did not have the above though, but I believe they publish newsletter multiple times a year and have snippets of the report. It is from the eck institute and was a completary issue. the phone number is 602-995-1581 and it is called the healthview newsletter price $5.00 regularly.
I will reread this newsletter tomorrow and post any other good info I get from it for others too. :)
- Re: Dr Eck and paramin amy79
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,087,429Hi MCW
I have the newsletter you mention above, the one I posted the link to seems to be something different again.
You were taking paramin as part of the 4 lows program?
I have a theory about the 4 lows program which I am not sure how correct it is but here goes I will write it anyway.
If you are in 4 lows as part of the report from arl you get a little summary and it states that "20 years ago 4 lows was a relatively rare pattern seen in hard driving business executives. Now it shows up in housewives and increasingly small children."
So the 4 lows program designed by Eck was basically designed for burnt out men. This might explain why I was told by tei that it is slow oxidiser women who have the most trouble getting their calcium to move up on the hair test.
If Dr Eck was still around today the protocols might be very different.
- Re: Dr Eck and paramin MCW
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This is a reply to # 2,087,436Interesting thanks for sharing! Yes, I was taking paramin while I was in four lows, was still told to take paramin when I got out of four lows, I was having symtpoms with it and decided to stop it and start with a new practitioner just over a month ago... this was when I was advised about paramin being a no no for slow oxidizers like myself and how I should have never been on it... it all made sense. I think Dr. Eck's views have been lost quite a bit now a days with many of the new NB practitioners and I have seen this first hand. I am glad I am now working with someone who takes Dr. Eck's works into account. :) I think this is so important for everyone to take from that finding the right practitioner is half of the challenge and don't settle until you know you are in good hands.
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- Re: Dr Eck and paramin Marie64
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This is a reply to # 2,087,674Hi MCW,
I was also a slow oxidizer and on 6 Paramin daily.
plus when I was in the 4 lows I was put on 9 but could only handle 4-6 daily.
I never realized how bad I felt on them until I was off and restarted Paramin, the bloat and felt like my digestion was getting messed up from it.
I am Glad I am working with a Practitioner who used Eck and Watts findings, Makes a big difference on how you feel.
Marie :)
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,087,702Second everything you say Marie! We were both on the same boat and now are in a much better one ;) happy weekend to you!
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This is a reply to # 2,087,581Hi :) Being a slow oxidizer, I was repeatedly or often advised to take 9 Paramin a day, even though only 3 were recommended to me. Thank God I never did as my CA/K (ideal ~4) went from 10.71 to 16.60 in 7 months. I was progressively feeling worse and remember thinking that I had never felt so bad in all my 8 years of illness. That was a real turning point for me. Quitting Paramin, Zinc etc completely, was when I truly began to feel so much better. It was immediate. A family member of mine,reads the same story, and perhaps for me, I saw it more in them than in me.. In fact, other people were beginning to say that there was something really wrong with them.. obviously.. My family member is in their Senior years, and started out with a CA/K of 10.00 (ideal ~4) and after 1 year it was 23.67. Their NA/K (ideal~2.50)was 16.82 when starting out, and after 1 year it was 32.33. They were in such excruciating pain, and yet all the repeated advise and encouragement given throughout the year never helped. It was always detox to blame, and that coffee enemas would help for pain mgmt. My family could never do coffee enemas as their muscles had gotten weaker and weaker. Since switching to TEI and a practitioner that incorporates the works of both Eck and Watts, we are feeling and doing so much better. Thank you Amy for this enlightening research you've brought on the teachings of Dr. Eck.
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This is a reply to # 2,088,032ARL help someone, someone not.
I am at ARL.
I do not take exactly the ARL Supplement, but similar to the composition of its own resources.
After about a month of taking the supplement, I'm quite calm and balanced.
Before, I was fast and aggressive and sometimes depressing.
Something like Hancock :))
Adrenal fatigue, first stage.
Still, next time I will send the hair to TEI.
Just out of curiosity.- Re: Dr Eck and paramin Pathway to Peace
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This is a reply to # 2,088,079Vesely :) you mean you were taking some of the ARL supplements, but also incorporated the Magnesium Oil into your regime? I remember you just saying that about the Mag Oil. That it had calmed you, and your Mag levels on your hair test were up because of it.
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This is a reply to # 2,088,028Maria 41 - Wow, you have some similar stories to what I have experienced, really scary when you look back but thankful for having found the right practitioner. I am glad you and I both are in a better place as it seemed we were both heading down a place of feeling worse than better for a while. Thanks for sharing your stories and wishing you continued recovery with your switch :)))
Vesley - good to hear you are seeing improvements :)
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This is a reply to # 2,087,418
Amy :) Did it say what was "Spartan MK" or what was in it ? Was it formula he used back then ?
Thx
- Re: Dr Eck and paramin amy79
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This is a reply to # 2,088,169Spartan mk is magnesium and potassium. You can still buy it today just not from Wilson practitioners. It is in arl's product catalog.
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This is a reply to # 2,088,234Amy, just one other question that came to mind..:) I was wondering that if the product is available today and in the ARL catalogue, are those that are working directly with the Lab (not through an Wilson/NB practitioner), being given Spartan mk if they are a slow oxidizer?
- Re: Dr Eck and paramin amy79
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This is a reply to # 2,088,298I don't know, the only practitioner i know of that still uses it is Rick Malter.
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This is a reply to # 2,088,354OK, thanks Amy for sharing this. If I recall correctly, Rick was trained personally by both Eck and Watts.
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This is a reply to # 2,088,234I am on Spartan MK at the moment along with Potassium Plus (trace elements brand). This is what my Rick put me on due to my continually low potassium levels 1 on all my hair tests. It is for slow oxidizers. :)
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This is a reply to # 2,087,418This is from Dr. WIlson:
SLOW OXIDATION AND CALCIUM PRECIPITATION
Although calcium and magnesium were not originally given to slow oxidizers, research has shown that Paramin is also most helpful for many slow oxidizers.
When the hair tissue calcium level is high relative to sodium and potassium, one loses calcium into the tissues. It precipitates into the tissues because low sodium and potassium levels cause calcium to come out of solution in the blood.
Sodium and potassium are required to solubilize or maintain calcium in a soluble or ionized form in the blood. When sodium and potassium are deficient due to weak adrenal and/or thyroid activity, some calcium drops out of solution and precipitates into the tissues including the hair.
As calcium leaves the blood and precipitates into the tissues, calcium may be withdrawn from the bones to replace the calcium lost from the blood. If this continues for years, one develops osteoporosis. For this reason, Paramin is now given to all slow oxidizers as well as fast oxidizers. Dr. Eck added this, as it was not originally the case. However, it is extremely useful for slow oxidizers to retard the progression of bone loss, to relieve anxiety and irritability, improve sleep and relax the muscles and nerves.
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