Iodine IS good. It's an essential nutrient. How you wish to get your Iodine is up to you. If you oppose the use of Lugol's and the like, that's up to you. You have posted previously that you have had negative experiences with iodine, could you provide some detail, please? Fleshing out the story a bit makes it seem more believable to readers:) And others could learn from your experiences!
Do you remember this thread, Mira? Did you ever watch the video that I posted to you? This video shows that with Iodine supplementation cretinism can be reversed in one generation. Now, how anyone could possibly dispute the value of a nutrient that can do that is beyond me.
And, contrary to allusions that Iodine supporters "gang up" on those that disagree, I was quite alone in that thread, and quite cordial:)
Now, here's the video again, please watch it, it really is quite mind-blowing:
"Kamidi lives on the slopes of Mount Merapi in Indonesia, one of Java's most active and dangerous volcanoes. He's three foot tall and has the tell-tale signs of cretinism: low hair line, bulging eyes, stunted growth - all associated with iodine deficiency, common in volcanic areas. Twenty years ago, Dr. Djokomoelyanto, a distinguished Indonesian endocrinologist injected large numbers of cretins in the surrounding area with iodine-infused oil. Kamidi was one of his patients. Within weeks, as Prof. Djokomoelyanto recounts in this moving Life programme, the cretins started feeling more energetic and lively. Kamidi eventually even married - another, taller, cretin, who'd also been treated with the iodine-infused oil, and they had two normal children."
Who gave you the god-given ability to know you're "right"?
I don't oppose your using Iodine if you wish to self-experiment. But to tell everyone that Iodine is good is wrong, IMO. Sounds just like religion, black and white, we have all the answers, don't anyone dare question it!!!!
Well, your lack of response to some extremely informative posts in this thread demonstrates that you have no wish in true debate, instead you are merely seeking to call Trapper out in order to find some fault, it seems.
It would really help CZ readers to know some details re: your difficulty with Iodine supplementation, you have repeatedly posted "against" it, and posted negative stuff about the Iodine supplementation forum.
All of this with no documented experiences with Iodine and very little interaction with the forum regulars. Not documented, on CZ, that I have seen. If you have posted on this please provide a link.
I do not feel antipathy towards you or anyone. This is a debate forum. To me, debate means both sides of the issue being addressed. I don't agree with Iodine use. I also don't believe in many other things, such as Colloidal Silver . This is simple opinion based on my experiences and personal research.
In fact, IMO the only person in this thread showing "antipathy" was Sylvette, over in Iodine Support, in response to my post.
While I appreciate all the posts in this thread, I can only wonder why the questions I asked in my first post in this thread remain unanswered???
Trapper had posted that anyone who doesn't believe in Iodine use is wrong. So I asked a couple of questions which remain unanswered.
I am aware of all the info on iodine out there and, if interested in using it, I would do a huge amount of research. I feel like a person of another religion who has come here and everyone wants to "convert" me. If this is what I wanted, I'd be on the Iodine Support forum asking lots of questions.
I'm not going to try to change your mind, that's pointless. People can argue until the sun goes down and not change their minds.
What I'd really like to see is for the iodine supporters to be open to different points of view.
"In fact, IMO the only person in this topic showing "antipathy" was Sylvette, over in Iodine Support, in response to my post.
Oh get off it already. How many times you gonna mention "sylvette" ??? You think if you keep repeating your shlt anybody's gonna believe it any more ? Truth only needs exposed once, propaganda is only 1 part in 20 of truth so you dingalings, including Big Bertha have to keep repeating the same old crap thinking someone will eventually believe it - but gasss what ? I speak for more than myself when I say we're sick and tired of seeing you all pissin and moanin, and repeating nonsense still leaves nonsense.
If you wanna blame any bs on "sylvette" then have at it if it helps you feel better, like your a "victim" or something, but all I did was inform you that the other forum is a "support" forum and this one here's a debate forum, where some of your stuff rightly belongs. You've now landed here. Put out your debate stuff and maybe someone will come along and discuss it with you so you can have a mutually-beneficial exchange.
Nobody wants to "convert" you, why in the helll should anybody care ? Believe whatever you want, its no skin off my asterisk.
YOu now gots three posts above, and ..... have you written anything material to any meaningful discussion ?
So I posted on Iodine Support, I've never done anything to hurt you that I'm aware of, but you immediately responded with sarcasm and continued your name-calling against H, who I hadn't even mentioned in my post.
Again, anyone who posts opinions that go against the Curezone mainstream opinion gets attacked? Myself included? And I'm not one to sling mud back. But if mud is slung at me, I will talk about it, as long as I have any freedom of speech left.
Perhaps my posts have no meaning to you, but they may to someone else.
Nobody's attacking you or Cheryl. I was under the mistaken impression that you were going to post some good debate fodder, instead of being hung up on talking about name calling, and curzeone mainstream and mud slinging.
This is the Iodine Debate forum. It seems as though, based on the content of all of your postings in this forum today, that perhaps your rants might be better placed in the CureZone Debate forum, or the Webmaster Debate forum. Have a nice day.
I, also, have no interest in "converting" you, or anyone, for that matter. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink"', so the old saying goes.
I do wonder what motivates you though. I guess that vagueness is all that I am going to get on this point, so be it.
Iodine supplementation cured my fibrocystic breast disease thereby reducing my chances of getting breast cancer, perhaps eradicating that chance completely. That's what motivates me. I believe that it's one in eight women that are diagnosed with Breast Cancer these days, those statistics are appalling.
>>>"What I'd really like to see is for the Iodine supporters to be open to different points of view."
I consider myself to be an open-minded person. What point of view would you like me to consider?
I understand self-experimenting, I do it myself. I've tried Lugols and Colloidal Silver and Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and many supplements that didn't help and actually caused harm. And I'm upset with myself for listening to the people who promoted these things (and made money off of me as well).
But what really bothers me is when these substances are heavily promoted by Curezone members. In reality, none of us knows everything about how the body works and how it reacts to these substances over the long term.
What really bothers me is when people act like they "know it all" on subjects like Iodine and stridently try to convince everyone that Lugols will cure disease and will cause no harm. Again, I think this is unethical.
In essence, I think it's acceptable to experiment and potentially harm ourselves but not to try to convince others to do so, especially with products that have "poison" marked right on the label.