Is Diatomaous Earth helpful in many ... 
ms112233
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Hi all
I have seen on and off for years good things about DE here at the curezone. I think I have tried a million things at this point or at least it seems like it. Just finished a parasite cleanse. I have been kind of reluctant about using it since I have had bladder issues for a while along with fungus, bacteria, viruses. I know it cuts up parasites and such so of course when you hear the words cuts when you have bladder irritation and stomach inflammation you think no way. I think I am now ready to give it a try after doing some reading and research about it. I am also worried about constipation. I did order some today and wanted to hear from people that have used it and are using it and what results you have had from it. When you read about it it almost seems like a miracle. I know silica is a very important mineral. Anything anyone can suggest to make my experience with using it a better one would be appreciated.
All I drink by the way is water, so I am concerned about how the taste will be.
best,
Maggie
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- Re: Is Diatomaous Earth helpful in m... cora
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This is a reply to # 1,861,177It's completely tasteless, Maggie. Try it in your water, as I mentioned most will settle but the silica will pretty much remain in the water you'll be drinking. It's so harmless, only good for you. But there is of course the notion of too much of a good thing. I think that's for those who find it constipating.
Knowing some of what you're dealing with (but less aware of your actual symptoms) -- we share the asper thing -- you will benefit from it.
Gooooooood luck. - Re: Is Diatomaous Earth helpful in m... Calibelle
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,861,177I bought my DE from http://www.earthworkshealth.com
in the 50# bag. I have primarily used it to kill bugs and spiders in and outside of my home; on my pets (fleas, and ticks); on my pets' food for parasites, and occasionally I put it in juice for me.
I can't say 'proof positive' that it has helped with bowel movements for me, or not or was it just hit or miss, and luck of the draw - who knows? LOL
I can say that it keeps the bugs/spiders down TREMENDOUSLY in/out of the house along with in the garden and lawn.
It DOES my my hair grow like CRAZY along with my NAILS.
It seems to affect (lower) blood pressure.
It looks and tastes like FLOUR. Yuck. But stir quickly in juice and drink fast so it doesn't clump and go to the bottom of the glass.
Hope this helps.
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- Re: Is Diatomaous Earth helpful in m... jameskep37
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This is a reply to # 1,861,282
De seemed to be dehydrating. It can cause mucus production because of its scratchy diatoms. It works well for the occasional die-off. I use it topically for itching/rash--works great to stop itching from a rash. I stopped taking it because of the mucus it was producing and the dehydrating effects.
- Re: Is Diatomaous Earth helpful in m... NaturalCureGirl
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This is a reply to # 1,861,406what kind of mucous, the kind in the bladder, or the kind in the nose?
- Re: Is Diatomaous Earth helpful in m... NaturalCureGirl
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- Re: Is Diatomaous Earth helpful in m... jameskep37
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- Re: What about blood pressure? ms112233
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This is a reply to # 1,861,177I just read the DE lowers blood pressure. I already have low blood pressure. I am assuming it is because of adrenal fatigue. Has anybody used DE that has adrenal fatigue? Does it mess with the adrenals?
Thanks ahead
Maggie- Edited #75644
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This is a reply to # 1,861,299Of course your adrenals are whacked, but that describes most anyone posting in these forums you are addressing.
I think you are overanalyzing DE. It's very straight forward. A benign substance with respect to any harms/side effects - quantity ingested dependent, it's nuttin' butta' good thang. - Re: What about blood pressure? cora
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This is a reply to # 1,861,299Of course your adrenals are whacked, but that describes most anyone posting in these forums you are addressing.
I think you are overanalyzing DE. It's very straight forward. A benign substance with respect to any risks/side effects - quantity ingested dependent, it's nuttin' butta' good thang.
I have extremely low blood pressure which it hasn't affected at all.- Re: What about blood pressure? ms112233
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This is a reply to # 1,861,303Well you are right Cora I am overly worried about it and I will get over it. I am going to try it when it comes. I just have had so many things give me reactions that I have become very apprehensive. That can be good or bad.
Anyway, I appreciate the input.
Maggie
PS Can you use the glucomann at the same time at DE?- Re: What about blood pressure? cora
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This is a reply to # 1,861,400I'd try them separately first. The loose konjac powder in water might be difficult. You'll need to try things out, Maggie. It's not rocket science.
- Re: What about blood pressure? cora
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- Re: What about blood pressure? ms112233
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- Re: What about blood pressure? Hveragerthi
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This is a reply to # 1,861,299
DE does not lower blood pressure nor adversely affect the blood pressure. The only effects DE has on the blood vessels is strengthening them and reducing inflammation.
- Re: What about blood pressure? gibby
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- Re: What about blood pressure? Hveragerthi
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How does it help with candida?
I doubt if it will. There are no acids, sterols or anything else that can affect the Candida. The DE consists primarily of silica (80%) with the remainder being metal oxides and moisture.
Maybe the people claiming that DE helps Candida are confusing the silica from DE with the silica in insoluble fibers. In soluble fibers contain silica, but unlike DE the fibers contain fermentable carbohydrates that our flora use to produce acids that control Candida.
- To HV ms112233
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This is a reply to # 1,861,591Hi
In your opinion does DE work to usher mold toxicins out of the body like Aspergillus?
I thought it was supposed to help usher out these toxicins and candida being one also. I guess I must be confused and need to do more research.
Thank you
Maggie
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- Re: What about blood pressure? SECRET AGENT MAN
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This is a reply to # 1,861,401DE needs to be mixed with a small amount of cane Sugar in or order to not only help remove Candida but also other pathogens. The cane Sugar is bait to attract the pathogens and Candida and they get trapped inside of the DE, AND BY THE WAY I KNOW A SHAMANIC FRIEND WHO USES LEMON JUICE MIXED WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF Sugar TO TREAT STOMACH AILMENTS, I T HINK USING THE SAME REASONING, THE BACTERIA OR FUNGUS CREATING THE STOMACH UPSET IS ATTRACTED TO THE SUGAR BUT KILLED BY THE ACIDIC PART OF THE LEMON JUICE (DON’T QUOTE ME ON THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT LEMON JUICE IS TURNED ALKALINE INSIDE OF THE BODY, PERHAPS AT FIRST IT’S ACIDIC QUALITY WILL KILL THE BAD GUYS IN THIS RECIPE BUT I HAVE NEVER TRIED IT). DE looks like a big pillow or sponge with holes in it. The DE does not kill the Candida, like I said it traps it and removes it out of the colon, therefore there should be no die off or herxing symptoms. I muscle test and created my own recipe. There was a doctor who used DE combined with a special sugar to get rid of E-Coli in children and was successful; I found the article at the downtown main library. Jim Hassinger sells a product called "Syclovir" which is DE and cane sugar and vinegar (I am assuming as a preservative). IT is too expensive for me so I guess at the formula and make my own for pennies. The only safe DE I know of is FOOD GRADE FROM PERMAGUARD. I called Permaguard and they gave me the number of the distributor for my state which is Texas and she gave me the phone number for retailers. I bought it from a fertilizer company and they special ordered food grade DE for me, about 12 dollars or so for a ten pound bag that said Food grade on it. ALSO, I RECOMMEND PUTTING THE WORD “SYCLOVIR” IN THE CURE ZONE SEARCH BOX AND READING TESTIMONIALS AND RESULTS OF CZ MEMBERS WHO USED SYCLOVIR; PERHAPS THE ORIGINAL FORMULA IS BETTER THAN MY HOME MADE VERSION.
I used muscle testing (kinesiology) to determine the ratio of cane sugar to DE and IT TESTED TO DO 1 PART CANE SUGAR TO 2 PARTS DE, THAT WOULD BE FOR EXAMPLE, FOR ONE TABLESPOON OF DE TO USE A HALF TABLESPOON OF DE. My guess is that I may be using way too much cane sugar but probably it gets absorbed by the DE. It is best to take de on an empty stomach because it aborbs everything many times its weight; I read one post that said 150 times its weight but that seems a little exaggerated, I JUST SAW ANOTHER CZ POST THAT CLAIMED 1000 TIMES.
You can either buy the Syclovir from Jim Hassinger at World Health Mall (if you are unemployed or disabled or just having a hard time financially just call him and tell him and he will give you a discount of 25 percent off most or some of his products). The normal price is about 40 dollars for a small jar, and when I was at my chiropractor’s office I saw a copy cat version of it (another company must have analyzed Syclovir) and it had the same ingredients but a little bigger jar and it was called DE-TOX or something like that and it was priced at 60 dollars. THESE PRICES ARE RIDICULOUS FOR YOU CAN MAKE IT FOR ABOUT TEN CENTS TO 50 CENTS, 50 CENTS BEING ABOUT TOPS I WOULD SAY TO MAKE A JAR OF IT. I don’t know how closely I cloned the product but I had unbelievable results for the first few weeks; truly miraculous.
My chiropractor told me that DE removes heavy metals and mercury, and mercury is suppose to be one of the factors that creates Candida and makes it hard to get rid of unless you get out all of your old dental fillings. I would have to personally do more research on DE to find out for sure if it removes heavy metals.
Also, I would still call Jim Hassinger and talk to him he has an incredible list of products way beyond DE, for example he has an olive leaf extract that can get rid of the flu in an hour, and he sells fulvic acid and ultra 1 and 2 minerals which can get rid of any viral infection very quickly.
MY SUGGESTION IS TO GO TO ONERADIONETWORK, A SHOW BY PATRICK TIMPONE AND DO A SEARCH FOR JIM HASSINGER AND LISTEN TO HIM TALK TO LEARN ABOUT SYCLOVIR AND HIS PRODUCTS. ALSO GO TO JIM’S WEBSITE AND CLICK ON SYCLOVIR AND HE HAS A RECORDING AND FAQ ABOUT SYCLOVIR AND THEN EITHER BUY IT OR MAKE IT YOURSELF. IF YOU BUY IT LET ME KNOW HOW IT WORKS, I SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT IT AND COMPARED IT TO MY RECIPE. At one point I saw that Jim said if you were having financial difficulty to call him and he would give you a home made recipe for Syclovir, I called but instead he offered me the 25% discount, but that tells me that there must be a home made recipe. If you want I can get the name of the cane sugar I used, simply use the most raw and natural one you can find.
I would suggest starting out with only a teaspoon of DE mixed with a half teaspoon of cane sugar in a glass of water. My friend and her mom who tried DE both got dizzy on DE and had to lower the dosage and work up gradually. I use a blender to blend mine and drink it before it settles. Also, if you use a blender use one made out of glass and also drink the DE out of a glass, not plastic. DE tends to leave a coating or residue on plastic I found out but it can be cleaned off. I eventually worked up to three tablespoons DE and a tablespoon and a half of cane sugar in water and this worked best but it caused too much constipation. I NOW BUY INULIN (WHICH BUY THE WAY IS WHAT THE VITAMIN SHOPPE BRAND FIBER IS) AND ADD A TABLESPOON OR SO WTH THE DE TO AVOID CONSTIPATION WHICH CAN BE INTENSE, AND I DRINK IT FIRST THING IN THE MORNING AND THEN WAIT AT LEAST AN HOUR OR SO BEFORE I EAT ANY FOOD OR TAKE ANY SUPPLEMENTS BECAUSE DE WILL ABSORB THE SUPPLEMENTS AND THEY WON’T WORK. ALSO, OF COURSE YOU COULD ALWAYS DO ENEMAS TO AVOID THE CONSTIPATION. I HAVE ALSO CONSIDERED USING MY HOME MADE RECIPE OF SYCLOVIR AND THEN WAITING AN HOUR OR SO OR EVEN LATER AND TAKING A CAPSULE OF MORE OF MAG07 (BASICALLY THIS IS Oxypowder BUT JUST COSTS LESS) TO HELP AVOID THE CONSTIPATION, AND THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING FORMULA, BEING CLEANED OUT WITH THE DE AND MAGO7.
ALSO, I NOTICED ON A SITE THAT SELLS DE THAT THEY USED DE IN AN ENEMA FOR DOGS THAT HAD WORMS I BELIEVE, SO I THOUGHT WHAT ABOUT AN ENEMA WITH MY HOME MADE SYCLOVIR. I TRIED IT AND IT DID NOT HURT ME BUT I WAS ALSO DRINKING IT THE SAME DAY AND I DID GET A LOT OF CONSTIPATION SO I STOPPED, BUT MORE RESEARCH NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SEE IF EITHER SYCLOVIR OR MY HOME MADE RECIPE COULD BE UTILIZED AS AN ENEMA, BUT IT MIGHT RUN THE RISK OF A CLOGGED COLON, AND I GOT SCARED FROM THE CONSTIPATION AND NEVER DID IT AGAIN, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN CAUSED FROM DRINKING IT THAT DAY AND NOT THE ENEMA. PERHAPS IF YOU ARE DOING AN ENEMA THIS WAY IT WOULD BE BEST NOT TO DRINK IT THAT DAY AND FOLLOW UP WITH MAGO7 OR EVEN JUST A water enema LATER IN THE DAY AFTER MY HOME MADE RECIPE ENEMA IN ORDER TO AVOID A BLOCKED COLON.
I THINK if you put Syclovir in the cure zone search box you should get more info or look at my previous cz posts where I talk about it and DE. DE will make your hair very soft and silky and strengthen your nails; It gives me energy and an overall feeling of well being when I take it with the cane sugar. I think I read a cz post where Jim told the person to work up to three tablespoons of Syclovir a day but my guess is that was not suppose to be taken all at once but throughout the day, perhaps you could do a cz post on that and message that person and ask him or her about that. below is my direct link to my cz post on this same matter, please read the entire thread or scroll down until you see my post (secret agent man).
//www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1643734
BELOW SHOULD BE A DIRECT DOWNLOAD TO JIM HASSINGER’S TALK ON CANDIDA AND SYCLOVIR, SEE LINK BELOW, THEN SCROLL DOWN TO WHERE YOU SEE THE WORD DOWNLOAD. AGAIN, GO TO HIS WEBSITE WORLD HEATLH MALl FOR MORE INFO. Any questions you can email me or post here.
http://www.oneradionetwork.com/health-challenges-diseases/jim-hassinger-on-ca...
- Re: What about blood pressure? jameskep37
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Syclovir has a different consistency than regular DE. Syclovir is like drinking liquid glass. De is much more gentle on the Gi tract. Syclovir set my gut on fire with its modified sharp-like diatoms. Definetly not a good approach for someone who has a sensitive gut/or bad ibs. The regular De from earthworks is a lot more gentle on the GI tract. It works well to absorb die-off/calms down your gut after eating a spicy/fatty meal. De can be dehydrating because of its absorbing properties. Syclovir can create a ton of mucus in the gi tract because of its very scratchy sharp-like consistency. Jim hasinger explains that its these sharp-like diatoms that are suppose to slice the cell membrane of the candida cell wall.
World health mall also sells a product called healthy gut which is basically sodium butyrate. Its a 4 carbon chain fatty acid that basically works similiar to candida force but not nearly as strong/effective.
- Re: What about blood pressure? SECRET AGENT MAN
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This is a reply to # 1,861,725THANKS FOR THE info, I always wondered what the difference is between my home made recipe and Syclovir; you mentioning how hard it was hard on your gut seems to be a problem with any product, the manufacturer doesn't mention side effects or if you can handle it.
Also, here is the name of the cane Sugar I used in my recipe (see my first post on this thread), it is RAPUNZEL: ORGANIC WHOLE CANE SUGAR: UNREFINED AND UNBLEACHED; I bought it at Whole Foods Market in Houston Texas.
I went to the Earhworks website and found out that the DE that they sell is the Permaguard Food Grade, the same DE that I use and close to the same price I Paid for a ten pound bag (a little over ten dollars for a ten pound bag). If you want to avoid shipping you can call Permaguard and ask for the phone number of the distributor for your state and then ask that person who sells it in your town, as I said in my first post I bought mine from a fertilizer store and they special ordered me a bag of it but I did not have to pay shipping. I did get some good results from my "cloned" Syclovir but I now wonder about what kind of results I would get from Syclovir. I will need to check my notes or go to Jim’s Hassinger's website again; I don't recall him saying that the DE cuts the membrane of the candida, I thought that it just trapped it so I will check that out,, of course the MD who was curing E-coli in children was not using Syclovir so that tells me that regular DE can remove pathogens. Also, I have seen pictures of DE under a microscope and it looks just like Rice Chex cereal or a pillow with lots of holes, I can easily see how a pathogen could get trapped in it. Actually, what I did not mention in my first post was that for weeks while taking my home made Syclovir I was ecstatic, I mean I was on an unbelievable high, the best I have ever felt my whole life (I have suffered from chronic Depression a long time) and I now assume it was either killing the candida and other pathogens and possibly removing mercury and heavy metals. Please share any suggestions for curing candida that you have shared or with DE.
- Re: What about blood pressure? SECRET AGENT MAN
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This is a reply to # 1,861,725
I forgot to ask how you use the DE to calm your stomach after eating spicy foods and also, more specifically how you use it to avoid die off; this is presently what I am researching but have had no luck finding info on it. I plan on taking some strong antifungals to kill candida and I want to avoid die off; one idea is to use DE but I am afraid to take it too soon after taking the candida supplements as I am afraid the DE will absorb it and take away its effectiveness.
My questions are how much DE do you use and do you mix it in water and what is the ratio of water to DE. Also do you take the DE after you eat, during or before and if so how much time elapsed, for example, if you take the DE after taking a supplement how long do you wait to take the DE? Any suggestions appreciated.
- Re: What about blood pressure? jameskep37
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This is a reply to # 1,862,163
1 tablespoon in about 8-10 oz of water 45 minutes/ 1hr after a meal to help with spicy/ fatty meals(dont want to take it too soon with a meal then it might interfere with digestion). I take 1 tablespoon with 8 oz of water whenever you start to feel uncomfortable die-off. I have not done the sugar/ combined with the DE protocol. That sounds like something you would do in between meals. Dont know how effective that would be for fungal candida? Might attract more free yeast? Let me know how it goes?
I dont know why syclovir has vinegar in it? when i opened the syclovir it had a very strong vinegar smell. I dont see the purpose of vinegar being added to the product other than causing more aggravation.
- Re: What about blood pressure? SECRET AGENT MAN
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This is a reply to # 1,862,189my question is when you take the de for die off do you still wait 45 minutes after you have eaten or taken a supplement? also, if the de does not get rid of all the die off do you take it again like an hour or so later? can you take it repeatedly in smaller dosages?
- Re: What about blood pressure? SECRET AGENT MAN
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This is a reply to # 1,862,189I just visited Jim Hassinger’s website http://WWW.WORLDHEALTHMALL.COM
AND LOOKED AT HIS FAQ ON SYCLOVIR. IN the FAQ he seems to allude that the Sugar AND THE VINEGAR ARE BAIT FOR THE CANDIA AND FUNGUS, but he does not make it totally clear as far as the vinegar goes, however, after reading that I am going to add vinegar to my home made recipe to see if it helps. This is somewhat of a guess again because I do not know if Jim is using regular vinegar or natural vinegar with the mother in it, like the Bragg’s brand. I also am going to buy some Syclovir and compare results to my recipe. At one point my imagination was guessing that maybe the vinegar changes the nature of the DE making it more like glass by partially dissolving the DE but that is probably just my imagination doing overtime. I wrote the next few paragraphs before I went to Jim’s website and found out that he seems to be saying that the vinegar is bait. One reason why I would say that the vinegar is not bait is because it is unclear if the vinegar actually feeds candida. AT THE END OF THIS MESSAGE ARE TWO LINKS MENTIONING HOW VINEGAR AFFECTS CANDIDA. My original thought was that the vinegar is used as a preservative since there is Sugar in the product but then again DE is similar to a preservative so I don’t know why a preservative would be needed; Sugar at the store has no preservative in it. HERE ARE THE DIRECT LINKS TO THE FAQ ABOUT SYCLOVIR FROM http://WWW.WORLDHEALTH.MALL
THIS FIRST LINK IS TEXT ONLY
http://www.worldhealthmall.com/v/vspfiles/V4_Backup/new/simple-answers.htm
THIS NEXT ONE IS AUDIO
http://www.worldhealthmall.com/product_p/sy.htm#audio
BELOW ARE LINKS THAT MENTION WHICH KIND OF VINEGARS EFFECT CANDIDA AND HOW THEY AFFECT IT.
..SEE THE TWO LINKS BELOW; FIRST ONE IS FROM A CANDIDA BLOG.
http://www.candidablog.com/is-vinegar-ok-for-candida.php
SECOND ONE IS FROM A DOCTOR SCROLL DOWN TO SEE THE NOTES ABOUT VINEGAR.
http://www.worldhealthmall.com/v/vspfiles/V4_Backup/new/simple-answers.htm#Wh...
http://www.nutritioninstitute.com/supplements.html
ALSO, HERE ARE A FEW WORDS HE SAYS ABOUT CANDIDA AND VINEGAR
How does the food we take in influence how fast the yeast can grow and make toxic chemicals? In An Extraordinary Power to Heal, I list the many foods which help yeast grow. For this webpage, I will talk about two foods, barley malt and vinegar. Barley malt comes from barley, which is sprouted and then heat killed in the malting process. The result is barley malt. This barley malt is the raw material for making beer. Beer manufacturers mix malt with yeast to make beer. Barley malt contains special growth factors which help yeast grow. Barley malt is also sweet and is sold as a sugar substitute. Barley malt is baked into nearly everything. Yeast is used in breadmaking, so malt is added to bread dough to feed the yeast.
Barley malt in food does the same thing in your intestine as it does in a bread bowl: barley malt feeds the yeast. Then the yeast makes toxic chemicals. Taking in malt creates excellent growing conditions for yeast in your gut.
The other food item which helps yeast grow is vinegar. Why? Vinegar contains many chemicals which kill bacteria but leave yeast alone. Vinegar is added to bread dough to keep the numbers of bacteria down and the yeast numbers high in the bread dough. Vinegar will do the same in your intestine, kill bacteria and leave yeast alone.
If we think about your intestine as a glass cup with yeast lining the side and food in the center, what does adding malt and vinegar do for the yeast? You have created excellent growing conditions for yeast. The malt feeds the yeast and vinegar kills the bacteria so that yeast has more room to grow. The result is more yeast with more activity, making toxic chemicals.
Is there a way to stop the yeast? As long as one takes in malt and vinegar, creating excellent growing conditions for yeast, the yeast is going to be there and grow.
No nutritional supplement will stop the yeast. On the contrary, these supplements also may feed the yeast and help it make toxic chemicals.
Lactobacillus, which is supposed to replace the good bacteria and get rid of the yeast. Lactobacillus does not clear yeast. In fact, Lactobacillus has been found in a number of studies to help yeast grow. Lactobacillus clears another bad bug, Clostridia, but it does this in a few weeks. After that the Lactobacillus does little or even helps the yeast to grow.
- Re: What about blood pressure? SECRET AGENT MAN
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This is a reply to # 1,862,189
Here is what I was looking for on Jim's website, I had to scroll down past all the audio links on his audio faq.
also, click on the 19th audio link that asks "What products can help me deal with this?
and you will hear Jim say that there is no generic form of the product but to call him if you cannot afford Syclovir, but many years ago I did see that he mentioned you could call him for a generic formula so I called him and asked him about it and instead he offered me the discount but no generic formula, my guess being that too many people made the generic formula or cloned it and now sell it; I did see a copycat version of Syclovir at my chiropractor's office. However, he did offer me a 25% discount on a lot of his products since I was unemployed at the time but did not offer me the information on the generic formula but that tells me there might be one so I will add the kosher vinegar to my home made generic recipe and see what kind of results I get. He no longer states on his website to call him for the generic formula, like I said, he now claims there is no generic formula.
scroll down past all of the audio links you will see more text about Syclovir that really describes what it is and how it works. below are a few words in the text that seem to point out that the vinegar along with the sugar are to attract the candida, at least he says they are its last meal. Also, he calls the DE plankton and it is specially treated and that must be why it feels like liquid glass; it’s a shame he does not mention that it could be hard on sensitive stomachs or gut, and evidently it is not like regular food grade DE, especially not like the food grade from Permaguard.
"Syclovir is made from unusual food-grade plankton. the silica of this plankton is uniquely treated and processed to help us have healthy support for our immune system. it is not a poison or toxin. the microscopic silica in the product is part of the plankton."
"the plankton is processed for a specific purpose and in a unique way. then it is combined with a little sugar from sugar cane and some kosher distilled vinegar for candida’s last meal and the blend of syclovir is completed. note: muscle testing may be thrown off in some people by the presence of the sugar & vinegar. syclovir picks up nicotine, toxins & chemicals perhaps able to absorb up to 1000 times its own weight in toxins, syclovir is excellent at helping to clean up the blood and cells."
see link below
http://www.worldhealthmall.com/product_p/sy.htm#audio- Re: What about blood pressure? jameskep37
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This is a reply to # 1,862,520
I dont see how vinegar acts as bait when its already been fermented. Yeast+bacteria has already burned the fuel from the apples leaving its by-products behind.
Again another company that does not list the side effects of its product. Syclovir set my gut on fire with extreme inflammation. I dont recommend that product with anyone who has a sensitive gut. Coconut oil and undecenoic acid is a much more mild approach. Betonite clay is a more gentle absorbent than DE. Betonite just doesnt have the silica/diatoms like DE does. Sometimes if my gut is sensitive ill use the betonite clay instead of the DE.
Ive never done more than one tablespoon of DE ive noticed it can be very dehydrating and somewhat constipating. I think De is very alkaline forming as well. Probably all the dirt-like clays are very alkaline. Syclovir might not be as alkaline because i think he removes a lot of the minerals?
I would rather do high doses of vitamin C than syclovir to reduce bloating. The vitamin C goes quickly through you system and doesnt scratch your intestines like DE does.
- Re: What about blood pressure? SECRET AGENT MAN
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This is a reply to # 1,862,568Is the vitamin C you are using buffered with the correct type of magnesium? According to a man I consider to be a genius named Dr Roby a certain type of buffered C will stop a food reaction in less than ten seconds (it is not the vitamin c it is the magnesium stopping the reaction). This can only happen if it has been an hour or less since you ate, otherwise you will need to take a small amount of Epson salts in water; the vitamin c only works in the stomach, so if it has been over an hour since you ate then Epson salts must be taken to stop the reaction ( Epsom Salts must work not only in the stomach but also once the food is past the stomach). How this actually works and what amounts to take are described in the first link below. Dr Roby sells a brand of buffered C that evidently works well for this, but I called and talked to his nurse and there are some store brands also that work but I had trouble finding one. I would call and ask him what he recommends. I tried to buy some from his online store but the links don’t work so a phone call would be best. He is very easy to talk to; I called after office hours but when he found out someone had questions he wanted to get on the phone and talk to me. Please consider reading this link below. Actually if you go to his resources links you will find articles that cover a wide area of things, like toxic mold and how to make you own effective air filter for 40 dollars, I made on for thirty dollars. He offers inexpensive solutions for mold like a cheap ultraviolet light similar to one used in hospitals. Also he gives recipes for nasal irrigation and how to convert a water pic to a nasal irrigation device. I suggest to anyone to read all of his articles you can find. Try to find the resource links. He is located in Austin Tx. See several links below. Also, he is a specialist for hormone balancing using more natural means like homeopathy I believe.
http://www.onlineallergycenter.com/buffered_vitamin_c.php#
Here is a direct link to his resources with lots of free information
http://www.onlineallergycenter.com/resources.php
- Re: What about blood pressure? jameskep37
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This is a reply to # 1,862,768
Almost all of my bloating happens in the duodenum area--about 1 hour to 2 hrs after i eat. (depends on what i eat). I seldom have bloating anymore because i dont eat the foods that cause extreme bloating. Ill use high doses of vitamin C to flush a bad die-off out of my system. If i have a bad reaction with something ill do a flush. My bad reactions usually happen in the duodenum area. My stomach seems to be strong, but I have a sensitive duodenun(I was diagnosed with duodenitis a while back ago)
Thanks for the link
- Re: What about blood pressure? SECRET AGENT MAN
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You wrote: “Ill use high doses of vitamin C to flush a bad die-off out of my system. If i have a bad reaction with something ill do a flush”.
I have never actually used buffered C to stop allergic reactions to food and I am going to call Dr Roby and/or read again his article on that, I mainly will have anxiety and slight nausea and even a slight hot flash when I eat certain foods, especially any Sugar and even just fruit. Would you give me the brand name of the Vitamin C that you use and how much do you use? How much water do you drink with it? Do you use a buffered Vitamin C? Also, you mention that you do a flush if you feel you had a bad reaction to something, were you talking about a liver flush? Or a niacin flush? Please outline your protocols with more details because soon I will start a candida protocol and want to avoid die off. Actually if you have the time to share everything you know about how to avoid die off or herxing I would appreciate it.
IN addition, I have suffered from Depression and I feel a lot of it is food allergies . I am considering simply taking Vitamin C with every meal or with any food that I think may cause symptoms. Any information you can share appreciated.
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pure 100% acorbic acid powder-now brand or any other brand-12 grams to quickly flush something out of your body. I dont do it all the time though.. I did the flush On a rare occasion when i had bad reactions to anti-fungals or ate a meal that caused extreme bloating and needed to flush it out of my system quickly.
I used betonite clay for some die offs or used it if i ate a spicy meal. I dont do betonite clay very often becuase it can be constipating.
I used potassium sorbate if i ate a meal with sugar to shut down the fermentation process. I bought the powder online and would put it in a large gelatin capsule. I dont do this all the time because it can interefere with the fermenatation process of friendly bacteria as well. But on the rare occasion it worked well to reduce bloating. For some reason prunes(with potassium sorbate) would actually reduce bloating/help with die-off as well. Although the prunes cause gas in the colon and can make you very relaxed due to the high potassium content. The sugar from the prunes didnt seem to feed the candida in my upper intestine, but might feed some of the candida in the colon because the potassium sorbate is too diluted by the time it reaches the colon..hence gas in the colon.
Another member uses candidate/molybdenum for brian fog/die off. I havent tried the candidate. Molybdenum didint do much for me.
Die-off is the one of the hardest things to deal with. Because just about everything you take for die-offs has some kind of side effect as well. Not to mention the very uncomfortable syptoms die-offs can cause. It can literally make you lose your mind.
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This is a reply to # 1,863,794I am just getting back on cure zone and just saw your post. I did extremely well on my DE mixture. Like I said in my post, the main problem is that in high dosages it causes constipation so I add inulin to it but at three tablespoons of DE even with the inulin it causes constipation.
Also, for mercury toxicity there are many useful things, I read somewhere that a special recipe of Cilantro paste can help or just eat a lot of Cilantro. This was suggested by a dentist as a way to avoid mercury leaking into the body for people that are having all the mercury fillings replaced. Also, if you have not heard it is highly recommended to have all regular dental fillings replaced by safe ones that do not have mercury. I suggest doing further research on that subject.
My chiropractor told me that DE does take heavy metals out of the body but I can’t say for sure. I would try ZEOLITE also for heavy metal/mercury detox. The same chiropractor sold me an inexpensive brand and I will try to get the name of it.
My most important suggestion is to get on the Moreless protocol on cure zone and this could heal many things; especially it can cure candida and bring the body to a perfect acid/alkaline environment. I did this for a while and it is powerful. If you choose to do the DE recipe and also the Moreless protocol do not drink the alkalizing drink (Moreless’s recipe) with the DE because the DE recipe must be taken by itself because it absorbs everything into the DE and the alkalizing drink would not be absorbed by the body. I would wait at least an hour and a half or more after drinking the DE recipe before taking the MORELESS drink; basically, just wait until the DE is digested before taking the MORELESS drink. The name of the forum on curezone is: Ask Moreless: pH Balance, Alkaline/Acid Balance. There is a pdf with the protocol on it and if you cannot find it ask me and I will somehow get it to you. Also, look up posts by Evanluck on the Moreless forum and see what you can find. Moreless is no longer the moderator on his own forum as I believe he was banned from cure zone, not because of his material but because he was a little too blunt with other people on the forum. He now has his own forum outside of cure zone, and I believe that forum is sicknesshope.com.
Another major researcher is David Webster and here is his website below.
http://www.thewholewhey.com/
He has invented a rectal enema where the probiotics are implanted high up directly in the colon and a diet of a special whey product is used to feed good probiotics. Please keep in mind that the body should be slightly alkaline but that the colon should be slightly acidic. I suggest reading his book titled: Achieve Maximum Health: The Missing Link in Immunity, Health and Longevity. I called him on the phone a few years back and talked to him and perhaps you could do the same if he still accepts phone calls.
I also just found five videos on YouTube about David Webster. Colon Flora: The Missing Link in Health by the interviewer and internet site titled: It’s Rainmaking Time by Kim Greenhouse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv7nc-Sfnns&feature=relmfu
Also, here is the direct link to “: It’s Rainmaking Time by Kim Greenhouse”.
http://itsrainmakingtime.com/
Of course, most people won’t opt to have a fecal implant from another human and may not be able to find a gastroenterologist to do it, so I also suggest to contact Natasha Trenev at Natren and ask her what the probiotic recipe for a rectal fecal implant is. I believe that the Bifidus probiotic combined with Digesta-lac is what I was told. I would call the 800 number and ask to speak to Natasha. In one of Natasha’s books she gave the recipe for the implant but I was told that it actually was a misprint so the person you talk to will have to be aware of that and will either have to put Natasha on the phone or consult her.
Bifidus is the probiotic that should be implanted in the lower colon is what comes to me from memory but check that out with Natren. Here is the average website for the non-professional consumer below.
http://store.natren.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc
Also, Natren has a professional line of products and my guess is they only sell to health professionals like chiropractors or doctors. There is a product called Bifidonate that is for the large intestine and it may be better than the Bifidus formula as an implant or taken orally. Again, call Natren and ask or even call the professional division and ask them, here is the link below.
http://www.natrenpro.com/product_bifidonate.asp
If I was doing a rectal probiotic implant I would add the Bifidus or Bifodonate probiotic to the probiotic recipe that David Webster recommends.
Perhaps the quickest way to heal candida and bring your flora back into balance (this sounds gross but I am not kidding) is to do a fecal rectal implant from a very young infant. Feces (again, I am not kidding, please google it to find out) from a healthy infant has the perfect balance of flora that everyone needs; there is no better rectal implant better than this. The link below is from the magazine Scientific American that speaks of the fecal implants that some gastroenterologists are using, and the implant mentioned in this article is from an adult (not an infant as I suggested) but I read somewhere that it is best to use a baby’s fecal matter since it has more of a healthy balance of flora.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=swapping-germs
Here is another link about fecal implants titled: Behold the Power of Poop by Margaret Aldrich on the internet in an Utne blog titled “The Sweet Pursuit”.
http://www.utne.com/the-sweet-pursuit/behold-the-power-of-poop.aspx?newslette...
Also, please research fecal implants on cure zone because there are many nuances to understand about it: here is an excellent post that is related from cure zone:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1653007#i
//www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1652857&s=1#i1
And here is the direct link to an article in the New York Times that is also in the cure zone link above.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/science/13micro.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&ref=...
The best approach is to be holistic in nature. I would seek out any and all healing techniques that I could. The oneness blessing (deeksha) by Bhagavan and his wife Ama is very powerful and there should be free oneness blessings you can go to in any major city, and it does not require you to change your religion or be religious in order to receive the free blessings.
http://www.onenessuniversity.org/
Also, Matrix Energetics is extremely effective and powerful and can be seen also on Youtube. I believe all diseases have roots in our belief systems and attitudes about life and our will to live and those roots must be pulled out and replaced with more loving and light and life filled beliefs, basically, a higher consciousness must replace the old.
I also have had great healings with prana healers and I can get you the name of the person who teaches this. All of the healings I go to are free, if you live in a big city there should be some spiritual center that offers free demonstrations of healings. I can send a list later of all the places available for free energy work.
One can learn a lot about rebuilding the immune system and other excellent health information by studying information that is geared toward cancer recovery patients. Bill Henderson is perhaps the most major player in the field of cancer recovery, for he is a cancer recovery researcher and about five thousand people have been cured using his methods that are inexpensive. I suggest ordering his book in a pdf because all of the links to the products are on the pdf. If you cannot afford the book I can find a way to get it to you for free, just send me a message to my cure zone inbox.
http://www.beating-cancer-gently.com/
There are also many effective tools called zappers and other frequency devices that kill fungus and candida and other pathogens; the terminator is a good one, also the Deluxe Zapper or Super Deluxe Zapper by Dr Hulda Clark has frequencies on it to kill candida; here is a good link for it.
http://www.drclark.net/en/products_devices/devices.php
I have intensely studied these subjects for ten or twenty years so I cannot list everything I have researched but perhaps this can get you started on the track to happiness and health. I can write more later.
Peace healing, bliss and joy
Secret Agent Man
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This is a reply to # 1,861,299I have never taken this but I have high blood pressure. Can anyone take it?
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This is a reply to # 2,164,567I don't know of any side effects so far but of course start out slow and increase the amounts slowly and make sure it is Food Grade, Perma Guard is the name of the company that sells the food grade and you can get a 10 pound bag for around 13 dollars, I get mine from a place that sells fertilizer because DE is also used as a fertilizer. You will have to research that to understand it.
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