Start with your last sentence and listen to yourself. Considering this is your first contribution at CZ, I’m starting to think you sound just like a spammer apprentice. This is not a debate forum. I’m done here.

“electro-acupuncture device such as a scenar”

“A simple 15 to 30 minutes treatment regime will be all that is needed.”

“No needles, no pain, no infections...”

“A typical home user can easily self treat over 75% of common complaints with out any problem.”

“Acupuncture therapists and those involved in it would not want scenar devices take away their patients (and business), so we can not hear them speak the truth about these devices.”

“But due to lack of their interest in proper marketing through out the western world…”

“…important for them to be careful as to whom they listen to.”

I agree with your assessments, SCENARS are not advertised in the US but through 6 only big corporations such as RITM, LET Medicale etc. I just purchased a PainGenie to get the feel of what this device will do for our achy necks and backs and sprains and strains.

Even the cheaper models people hail these as the holy grail who have nothing to do with sales, just owing it for their own personal benefits. Mine is still being shipped from England because the lady in Missouri ran out of the RITM small units. Dr. Karasev, help created and built the RITM versions until he split off from the company to create his own version of the SCENAR/Cosmodic devices.

Unfortunately, it becomes way too expensive for the average consumer to spend $7000.00 such as the EX735Ag SCENAR/Cosmodic X2 Slider. If any thing else its a bit of a mouth full. If the RITM works and I see no reason it couldn't but I will wait to see. But if it works up to it's hype then I am definitely purchasing the EX model I can place it in "Diagnosis" mode and slide the unit over the body and where the graph reads the highest output that is where I would place the unit and from there you are left out of it.

Place it on that high read area and the SCENAR will automatically decide if it needs Cosmodic or SCENAR treatment. Once it is done, even if you wanted to do it over again the machine will shut off! Again this will all depend if the PainGenie device can do the simple things I am hoping for.

ON the other hand I am also purchasing the ACU-Graph version 4 for electronic acupuncture only. It seems to have a great "Diagnostic" functioning program and from what I am told if you treat the sites that ACU-Graph tells you too not only will your "PIE" chart come up in value over several visits but the subject will feel a lot better.

Again, who knows and for only $2195 most affordable for most of us who are not practitioners. I want the additional handheld stimpro plus for an addition $500.00. This one is crazy it will find any meridian point by dragging the point of the stimpro over the suspect area that needs the treatment. Acupuncture for dummies.