Especially because this is cross-posted in the Liver Flush Forum , I am going to speak out.

Liver Flushing with the parasite killing literally saved my life, and yes, I will be the one that Wen is talking about that will stand by liver flushing, ESPECIALLY while doing any kind of detox work.

The #1 thing the Alternative Dr drilled into me, prior to starting ANY kind of work, was the importance of first working on making sure the elimination organs are open and able to clean out what toxins you are trying to clear out. How can a person expect to clear out toxins, when the septic system is plugged up??? What happens with the smelly gunk? It backs up. Same thing with the bowels being open and cleaning out. I CRINGE when I see people talking about doing any kind of cleansing, and being constipated! Bowel cleansing was the #1 thing the Alternative Dr started me with.

There is aLOT of toxins that go with parasite killing. Killing parasites using any method, whether it be herbs, drugs, rife, WILL stir up all kinds of toxins that the liver has the job of clearing out. It wouldn't be an easy job for a healthy liver to handle, let alone expecting an already sick liver to do the job.

Wen knows that I also know her history, prior to when she did the couple of liver flushes. Already having a sick, Hepatitis C liver, plus killing parasites for almost two years prior to that with both herbs and pharma drugs, and also then starting Rife and chelating too, almost got her a liver transplant..and that wasn't just me telling her that, she also heard that from a practitioner.

coffee enemas is what Newport says literally saved his life. Whatever people decide to do, whether liver flushing, coffee enemas or both (as I had to do) the most important thing is to not ignore the liver when doing ANY kind of cleanses.

If I had stopped after the first couple of Liver Flushes that made me sick, from my liver being so congested and toxic- I literally would not be here today. My husband and Alternative Dr would say the same thing. It's taken aLOT of work, and not a short amount of time, to get it working better, but had I not found CZ, and the Alternative Dr when I did, and had I stayed with MD's not finding the core causes of my chronic liver damage, I would not have seen the age of 50. My liver was packed full of parasites too. Killing them, put even more stress and congestion on the already sick liver. Had I been trying to do this stuff on my own, without the help of the Alternative Dr, I would have made things far worse for myself.

I literally had to ask myself more than once, when I knew my liver was once again congested and needing the liver flush, "Do you want to live, or die?". Literally, that is how important I knew the Liver Flushes were with killing the parasites. Maybe not fun, and "too harsh", like Wen says from the couple of flushes that she did, but I made the decision that I wanted to live, even when it wasn't the most fun thing in the world to do. Expecting an already plugged up septic system to be able clear out toxins, is pretty silly, but also deadly.

thanks wen and js.mom for your response. js.mom i've read many of your posts and have read what you've been through and and am really interested in your opinion. i do not plan to do any parasite cleanse until i'm done breastfeeding. do you think that perhaps doing a liver cleanse and/or coffee enemas would not be a good idea either....yes I know they stir up toxins but especially in the case of the coffee enema i've done them before and it seems to dump a bunch of crap from the liver all at once...if I were to follow that up with a salt water enema i would hopefully not reabsorb the toxins and get them out. i was thinking of just doing this for the time being and see if this would help how i'm feeling. in some ways i've been feeling pretty good lately. my baby who is very sensitive to what I eat has forced me to give up wheat, soy and dairy. it's really helped with some of the extreme fatigue that I used to get, so I think i have a sensitivity to these foods that I didn't realize. my biggest concern lately is that tingling, tightness and pain in my shoulders that I hear is due to a toxic liver perhaps. so I know in the future I need to do some serious cleansing but for the time being perhaps CE's would help...but I not sure if it's safe. I'm willing to stick it out and finish nursing as well.

also another question i have is there any advice you have on supporting my body nutritionally or thru supplementation that might help?

thanks tizonia, i'm taking flax but perhaps this is not enough. i will look into it.

thanks to everyone here for your thoughtful and informative responses.