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I am thinking of trying Oxypowder for a Colon Cleanse prior to starting my candida regimen. My changes in diet have been encouraging and now I've been having good and regular bowel movements every day (once upon waking and occasionally in the evenings.) I have been eating healthy for most of the past 1 year and I don't suspect a whole lot of bad stuff in my intestines (just imagining, I could be wrong).
I am in my late twenties, am pretty much underweight (110 lbs). I guess that will do for a background :)
I read the Oxypowder 's site and it says it has peroxides of magnesium (along with magnesium oxides etc) plus it is supposed to release monoatomic oxygen inside the intestines and that "would react with any organic material" breaking it down. If it were to encounter only compacted fecal matter and liquify it, that would be great.
But if the intestine is clean (at places) isn't there a risk that the monoatomic oxygen might burn off the inner delicate tissues? This prospect scares me extremely and I would be thankful if someone can shed light on this.
Adding to this, I am also aware that peroxides are generally caustic and burn stuff off... will both of these damage the intestines if they are already clean?
- Re: Can oxygen based cleansers burn ... hanna
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This is a reply to # 1,561,272As far as I understand it the magnesium is a carrier (minimum absorbtion of magnesium) and the release of oxygen liquifies the old fecal matter.
If your colon is clean the oxygen will benefit the rest of your body. The oxygen is also good for the beneficial flora.
A few years ago I used the Oxypowder for the oxygen and I took 1 capsule several times a day.
On the cancertutor website they suggest taking Oxypowder for the oxygen.
- Re: Can oxygen based cleansers burn ... otersan
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This is a reply to # 1,561,378Hi Hanna, thanks for that.
I ain't able to find the reference to Oxypowder on the cancertutor website. Can you please let me know the link?- Re: Can oxygen based cleansers burn ... hanna
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This is a reply to # 1,561,869I gave it a quick look and I could not find it either. The website has changed since I read it, I would think about 4 or 5 years ago.
- Re: Can oxygen based cleansers burn ... otersan
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Yes, I think it no longer contains it. Just to make sure I did the following in google:
site:www.cancertutor.com Oxypowder
It returns no results. I tried with other variants of Oxypowder spelling and all return no results. I guess hence it is no longer there. And I wonder if there is a reason behind it :)
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- Re: Can oxygen based cleansers burn ... Hveragerthi
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This is a reply to # 1,561,272The problem is not with the peroxide unless it is a high concentration. For example 3% hydrogen peroxide does very little to tissues when applied. But a 35% peroxide will do some significant burning and 100% hydrogen peroxide can literally set you on fire. I have heard of a case where a truck carrying 100 peroxide, which is actually a thick blue liquid, crashed leaking the peroxide. The peroxide ignited the asphalt. So concentration is a big factor. The small amount of peroxide in the magnesium peroxide is not enough to cause damage. In fact magnesium peroxide is so expensive to begin with and requires hazardous shipping over a certain percentage, which is also expensive that these products will not contain very much. Last time I checked on pricing of magnesium peroxide about 14 years ago the only source I could find wanted about $160.00 a pound plus the hazardous shipping charges. Therefore the magnesium peroxide is diluted with magnesium hydroxide.
And this is where the problem comes in. Magnesium oxide reacts with water to form magnesium hydroxide. But as with all hydroxides, magnesium hydroxide is caustic. Other examples of hydroxides include calcium hydroxide (lime) used in making cement and sodium and potassium hydroxides used in drain cleaners. Containers with any of these ingredients have warning labels on them because tissue contact can lead to chemical burns.
I discuss this more in depth here:
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- Re: Can oxygen based cleansers burn ... otersan
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This is a reply to # 1,561,874Hi,
Thanks for the reply Hveragerthi. I don't know much chemistry so I am depending on people who are "chemically inclined" :)
That does sounds scary. I was about to take Oxypowder before I started the rest of my candida regimen. Now I feel scared to order it and mostly I won't order it I think. Is there a cleanse that you can recommend for candida?- Re: Can oxygen based cleansers burn ... Hveragerthi
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I have a post discussing how to control Candida here:
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The best way of dealing with intestinal Candida is with probiotic sources such as kefir or fermented vegetables and fibers to feed the flora.- Re: Can oxygen based cleansers burn ... otersan
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This is a reply to # 1,561,881What kind of fibers do you suggest?
I read your candida post at the link given in your post. Most of them go well with me. I have doubts regarding one though: the alkalizing part. Surprisingly, amongst the first steps that I did to get rid of my candida, alkalizing was one of it. And I'd say it provided a good relief to me. To be clear, the first thing I did was modify my diet a little, include coconut, olive and cod liver oil in my diet, and then alkalize. I found that all three steps gave perceivable improvement. But that doesn't mean I am going to argue that candida dies in alkaline environment.
No, but maybe the alkalizing steps helped the rest of my body and they coped well/fought well with the candida. My understanding is alkalizing foods don't have their effect just on the intestines, but the entire body (just like all food). Maybe candida also flourished during my alkalizing sprees but I don't really know :) Also, I don't think alkalizing foods reduce the stomach acids in any way (that is, permanently). So the stomach might be alkaline for sometime (during which the alkalizing effect is spread to the rest of the body), but for the next meal, the stomach acids return and the environment changes.
My dad has been through a naturopathic course (just out of interest, he is an engineer) in his younger years where the teachers taught by diagnosing regular patients in front of the students. And in many cases, they started with just alkalizing the body (where extreme acidity was suspected) and the patients came back reporting dramatic improvements and cures (include for very early stage cancers it seems).
I don't know why I took off on alkalizing like that, I don't intend to continuously alkalize (but I do take lemon juice and apple cider vinegar because they seem to help too). I have your other instructions noted down (and wish me luck) because I am going to start off on kefir (and more probiotics when I get them) strengthening my immune system and simultaneously helping my liver and kidney in pushing away my toxins and cleansing the blood. I hope that sounds like a good plan. Here and there, if my body can take it, I am going to include anti-fungals.
I think I've decided against the Oxypowder by now. Instead am going to go the 7 day salt water flush instead.
Comments, suggestions...
- Re: Can oxygen based cleansers burn ... Hveragerthi
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This is a reply to # 1,562,388I recommend rice bran or oat bran. Both are "soft" fibers and provide a lot of B vitamins. And they do not cause bloating like psyllium.
As for alkalinizing this is pretty much a myth. The body maintains its pH without assistance except in very rare instances such as some poisonings, severe COPD, uncontrolled diabetes, hyperventilation, or milk-alkali syndrome. I touched on this recently:
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If people study pH regulation by the body, from medical instead of sales sources, then they would see what I mean. The body has several mechanisms to control pH to prevent the blood from going too alkaline or too acid since we cannot survive in either condition. So trying to force the pH one way or the other just puts a lot more stress on the body as it has to work even harder to get itself back to its normal pH.Advertisement
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- Re: Can oxygen based cleansers burn ... otersan
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This is a reply to # 1,563,773I was told grains are not allowed on candida diet. Would the rice or oat brans be ok then?
I now feel quite positively that a non-acidic stomach/intestine environment might be very nurturing for candida. I think I have lesser stomach acids because I don't feel the hunger pangs (the acids flowing into my stomach) nowadays. I am wondering what should be done to restore the stomach working normally with the acidity returning.
I read the other post you have linked to. And I feel the same that there are acidic as well as alkaline aspects to each part of the body, though one might look dominant. Something akin to there are both feminine and masculine traits in everybody, but one dominates (mostly). I'll give you one example where the body is found wanting alkalinity from somewhere - when the body starts leeching calcium from bones to keep the blood alkaline. This shows that the body knows how to keep the blood slightly alkaline but that doesn't mean this is all right. Because leeching calcium is gonna make the bones weak. So it is like saving the king by giving up a bishop in a game of chess. What would have been desirable would be to keep both safe. Yet in such conditions is where providing foods that leave an alkaline ash as their end product (ayurvedic concept - it differs slightly from the conventional view) help the body. This way, the body uses this alkalinity instead of getting calcium out. Similarly to reverse osteoporosis (this last point though I am not very sure), it is necessary to provide alkalinity to the body, along with the required minerals - calcium, magnesium, lithium and one or two more important things (besides a host of other things that maybe we, as in humans, don't understand perfectly as of now because I'd say we hardly understand 0.5% - 1% of how the human body really works.). I am sounding as if that (the minerals and alkalinity) is a sure shot way to do it, rather it is a few of the things that natural medicine has understood.
I hope you agree with me.
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I was told grains are not allowed on candida diet. Would the rice or oat brans be ok then?
The brans are the insoluble fiber, not the simple sugar forming part of the grains so they are fine.
I now feel quite positively that a non-acidic stomach/intestine environment might be very nurturing for candida. I think I have lesser stomach acids because I don't feel the hunger pangs (the acids flowing into my stomach) nowadays. I am wondering what should be done to restore the stomach working normally with the acidity returning.I answered that here:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1471203#i
I am a big fan of maintaining the stomach acid since a lack of stomach acid can lead to acid reflux, bloating, allergies, mineral deficiencies, incomplete protein digestion, deficiencies of B6, B12 and folate, microbial infections, etc. This is also why I recommend avoiding antacids, acid blockers, alkaline waters, calcium carbonate (coral, oyster shell, dolomite), calcium oxide/hydroxide (lime) and magnesium oxide/hydroxide (Milk of Magnesia) since these all neutralize stomach acid.
I read the other post you have linked to. And I feel the same that there are acidic as well as alkaline aspects to each part of the body, though one might look dominant. Something akin to there are both feminine and masculine traits in everybody, but one dominates (mostly). I'll give you one example where the body is found wanting alkalinity from somewhere - when the body starts leeching calcium from bones to keep the blood alkaline. This shows that the body knows how to keep the blood slightly alkaline but that doesn't mean this is all right.Correct, but this is a last resort method for the body to remove acids from the blood. Respiration is the primary means:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1502701#i
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Respiration is actually a means to either increase alkalinity or acidity depending on the blood pH. If we go too acid the respiration increases to reduce acidity. If we go too alkaline respiration slows down to increase acidity.
Other buffers include the action of the kidneys and release of bicarbonate. Our mineral reserves again are a last resort. The primary cause of bone loss is not acidity. It is hyperparathyroidism. Other contributing factors include a lack of stomach acid leading to silica deficiencies, a high phosphorus load especially from beef, milk or cola consumption and thyroid medications.
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- Re: Can oxygen based cleansers burn ... jfh
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This is a reply to # 1,563,986Hv >> "Respiration is actually a means to either increase alkalinity or acidity depending on the blood pH. If we go too acid the respiration increases to reduce acidity. If we go too alkaline respiration slows down to increase acidity."
I wonder if this is yet another one of the many reasons that sleep is so healing. I assume that our sleep breathing is more shallow and slow. It would help the body increase more acid.
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