I did not say it was an obvious forgery, just that it likely was - and I note that the internet contains images of an original Australian Certificate that was supposedly used as the template for the Obama one.  It even has the same registration number and marks.

See: http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/08/04/australia_certificate/index...

But one never knows with absolute certainty - forgery can work both ways and only one side of this argument has the power to alter official records and compel coverups.

Now regarding Obama. all the man has to do to silence the debate is:

RELEASE HIS ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

I have yet to see anyone provide any valid reason for him not doing so, instead of only supplying substitute certificates that say an original is on file.  Neither have I seen any valid reasons for all the extraordinary measures and expenses he has used to prevent access to all of his other records.  I can only conclude that something is being hidden.  I also have not seen anyone explain why his own grandmother and other relatives and Kenyans have said that he was born in Kenya.  According to Obama's Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii as the Democratic candidate for president claims.  His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room.

Do you care to take a shot at explaining that without making excuses and rationalizations?  No one else has.

DQ