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Hi all. I’ve been lurking and learning a lot from this site. Thanks so much to all the “posters”.
I’ve been doing the P*B Colon Cleanse for 3 weeks with some moderate results. I added the Dr. Clarke parasite cleanse the last week. Stopped all on Thursday in preparation for Liver Flush on Friday.
I followed Dr. Clarks Liver Flush instructions to a “T”. I drank a gallon of organic apple juice the 2 days before the flush. I didn’t have much trouble drinking the Epsom Salts or the olive oil grapefruit mixture. I had some SLIGHT nausea, no big deal. Got out about 50 soft green “rice shaped” particles, not sure if I can call them stones because they were “Squishy”. (I got up the courage to investigate one of them.) I felt pretty weak and shaky through Sunday. I used some pedia-lyte to restore electrolytes. All in all, I guess this would qualify as a successful 1st flush.
However, the results of the Epsom Salts are a different story. I had such bad BURNING diarrhea. By the end of the 2nd dose of Epsom Salts , the diarrhea was clear burning liquid. I would swear it was hydrochloric acid mixed with Tabasco!! Hence, I’m curious if there is a consensus on the next best option to Epsom Salts. I’ve read the following option on this board:
· Taking a generous dose of magnesium prior to a flush will help to relax the bile duct... (But would this cause a similar burning diarrhea?)
· Milk of Magnesia
· Coffee Enema
Is there any general consensus as to what would be the next best option, I’m scared of those Epsom salts! Sorry for the long post. I do want to do another liver cleanse in a couple of weeks.
Thanks in advance to a great group of folks,
Doodle Bug- Re: First Flush Results – Options fo... jaybyrd
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This is a reply to # 148,209I just did my 7th Liver Flush last weekend at the end of an 8 day Master-Cleanse and in the middle of a parasite cleanse. As an experiment I halved the epson salts for the 2 evening portions and replaced the morning 2 with Sea Salt since the taste of the epson salt is easily the worst of this whole process for me. Also I added a coffee enema between the epson salt drinks. Went down alot better and I got a pile of stones out (along with some other undesirable stuff). I think that the ticket here is to follow the directions at first and then tailor the process to yourself as you get deeper into cleansing your body. The insights of the individuals posting here have been invaluble to me. Thanks to all!
Jay- Re: First Flush Results – Options for Epsom Salts Barto
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This is a reply to # 148,213Jay, is the Sea Salt to help relax the bile ducts too? Altho' the Epsom is disgusting, the thought of the salt isn't much better (isn't it used as an emetic?). Also, where can I get info on the coffee enema. I've seen mention of it on other gallstone recipies, but no info about why to use it. Thanks
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MoreThis is a reply to # 148,214Barto,
Here is the link for instructions on how to do a coffee enema.
//www.curezone.org/art/read.asp?ID=28&db=5&C0=818
If you haven't done an enema before, I suggest you practice with water first. My fist time was a disaster! Also, if you have trouble retaining enemas you can put about a tablespoon of organic molasses in with the coffee and that will help with retention.
coffee enemas always leave me feeling rejuvinated. Good Luck! Let us know how it goes.
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This is a reply to # 148,213hmmmm. i had the same burning on my last flush, which i successfully managed to keep down this time...only to have it come out...OUCH!
i think that maybe you could tailor the salts dose for you...altho i wouldn't completely eliminate it since i've read many times that it is necessary to open and relax the bile ducts.
i wish there was something else! let us know when you discover it! :-) - Jaybird and Ocean #162883
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This is a reply to # 148,213Thanks for your quick replies. :)
I wondered about decreasing the Epsom Salt dosage. Still scared of it. If no one comes up with another solution to dilate the little canal, I'll try a diluted version and let ya' know the results.
Thanks,
DoodleBug- Re: Jaybird and Ocean jaybyrd
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This is a reply to # 148,219My feeling is that the dose of epson salt recommended is a good place to start but as we all know each one of us is different. Personally I changed the portion to less since I can just barely stand the taste and wanted to see if less would do the job. For me it did although in this case I'd been on The Master Cleanse for a week so that may have something to do with less being affective. As for the Sea Salt I remember seeing somewhere that it can be substituted as the morning oral enema instead of epson salts for The Master Cleanse (Altho' senna tea the evening before is still much more pleasurable).
As for the coffee enema use a plain water one first to get as much stuff out as you can first. I found it's easier to retain for best affect that way. Also helps to have the coffee a bit above body temperature (not too hot!). The main purpose is to help the liver release toxins so you want to retain it for a bit. Personally it relaxes me and I get a great nights sleep afterward. Kind of the opposite from what you would think a direct injection of caffeine would do.
Jay- Thanks, still trying to decide on do... #162883
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This is a reply to # 148,229Hey Jaybird and all,
Thanks for all the replies and info.
Yes, I was determined to follow Clark's liver cleanse just like she said the first time, so I continued with the Epsom Salts despite the burning bum. :)I'm glad to hear a lower dose of Epsom Salts worked for you, and I think this is what I'll try on liver cleanse 2 in a couple of weeks. I'll let ya'll know my results. If burning is still a problem I may investigate other options to dilate the bile duct for the 3rd cleanse, if there are any.
You mentioned senna tea, I wondered if you used this to replace the Epsom Salts , or just to help remove toxins?
Thanks for the info on the coffee enema. I have done one before, but I did not use plain water first. I think I'll try this next time. Do you do this the day AFTER the liver cleanse?
Thanks again!
DoodleBug
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This is a reply to # 148,281Hi Doodlebug
I started doing the coffee enema after reading that it was good for releasing toxins from the liver. Last week I did it almost every evening while doing the lemonade cleanse. Friday I decided to try it between the evening epson salt drinks for the Liver Flush as an experiment. I figured that I had everything to gain and nothing to lose by freeing as much up in the liver as I could. And I also did it the following afternoon. Had to do something with all that organic Mexican Altura French Roast that I'd bought and haven't been drinking ;^). For what it's worth my advice is to not deviate too radically from the tried and true methods of Clarke, etal until you get a feel for how all this is affecting your body. Then get more aggressive or back off as you see fit.
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This is a reply to # 148,284Forgot that you asked about senna tea also. I wouldn't try to replace the epson salts with it. It does help clean out the pipes but it would place additional stress on the liver since it would place additional compounds in the bloodstream which would then be processed by the liver. Save it for the day after if you feel that you need additional bowel flushing. I used it mostly for The Master Cleanse so I could back off on the morning saltwater flush. A good one for me is Smooth Move Tea. Beware tho' - if you aren't an early riser you will be.
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This is a reply to # 148,209magnesium citarate ground up i think 800mg
also magnesium powder that oxygenates, can't remember what form but i think that works.
i had the same problem with the burning from the epsoms (oo + juice didnt hurt at all). for me it literally seared my skin. i took apple juice with the epsoms i'm sure that didn't help.
i may try a lower dose of Epsom Salts and see if i get results. i got some stones out with modified version using citarate, however not as many or as big as with the Epsom Salts .
also what everyone on here told me was to get skin salve and lubricate your butt areas *prior* to taking the epsoms.
take care
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