A,

Thanks for your response. I see it comes out of your experience and not from something that you have a "belief" or "disbelief" in.  Belief in anything will prevent one from seeing the real picture.

There is a thread below with an ongoing discussion with Dquixote1217 from the post  http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1374565     I will include it here (with a slight amount of editing) as its not in a position to be read by many others.

Dquixote1217 wrote:

I was curious to see what lame excuse you would come up with to dismiss this simple way of seeing how one has become robot-ized over years of the relentless habit of always thinking about something, never once giving it a rest. I didn't expect it to be such a literal one. It is not even important information that depends on survival that we are talking about.  It is the habit of constantly thinking trivial crap that is preventing one from being aware in this moment of time.  It is excessive compulsory behavior. It is ADHD. It is the conditioning from the very childhood. Everyone has this as a dis-ease to a certain degree or other. And each and everyone is responsible for the cause of it, and the for detrimental effects of this obsessive left brain disorder. It is one's own free will tha allows one to come out of it, if one doesn't then they are left to being largely controlled by unconscious forces.

If is fully predetermined then one should be able to predict what thought...(Emphasis added.)

There you go again with the pasting over of your own intrepretation of what has been said. Largely and fully have very different meanings, largely means that it depends on the individual how much of his actions are subject to predetermination and his free will. Fully means we are absolute like animals that have no choice in the matter. Seems to me that this is a habit of yours, of reading your own interpretation of what others are saying to you. The more we move into this subject and it is becoming more clear that this can be predetermined that this will occur in future discussions with you. :)

We are actually arguing trivia here.

Would it be trivial if the lives of a 'few good men' depended on focusing your attention on the appearance of one or two lights in a distant tower, so that you could warn others of an impending attack, and it was up to you to not be distracted for a single moment, as even a few seconds would put their lives in jeopardy. And please don't be so ready to dismiss this analogy to the Paul Revere day and age. We are in the computer age, and a moments difference could be the death of hundreds of your brethren. 

And you are overlooking the whole period of Japanese history whereby the art of swordsmanship, archery and the martial arts deeply involved not being distracted by thought while engaged in battle. All warriors at a time were quite involved with meditation, zen, to improve intuition and increase their awareness. The victor usually was the guy that did not waver in thought. 

I thought you, of all people, were intelligent enough to see the value of being vigilant, not be distracted by whatever trivial thoughts moved through that 'free willed' brain of yourn. It is the constant flow of trivial thought that is the arguing point here. It is mostly garbage that you and everyone else here is entertaining oneself with. And it seems you think it is some valuable treasure, the NWO information, the junk you read and then go on afterwards rehashing over and over and over and over again in that simple brain of yours. This is conditioning, this is self- hypnosis, repeating something over and over and over again, continuously is hypnotizing yourself. You are doing the same thing that the society has been doing for a millennia to the masses... in fact you, that what you have been conditioned by the society to do, to hypnotize yourself, society does not constantly need to do it any more. You are an expert in doing it to yourself.

I overdid something this past weekend.  Might have been when I turned over a mini-boat that had a lot of water,, or might have happened when the ATV took some air coming off a bump and crashed.  Whatever it was it is giving me fits and I am going to have to do a bit of healing myself it seems.

Do you think it was predetermined?

Do I think it was predetermined? To a large degree, YES. Because the more we exchange messages and I see how you got a habit of not really seeing clearly what I have said in my posts, that you keep superimposing your own interpretation over it, and the way you've become obsessive about NWO, as if it is gospel... YES, I think you were not entirely present while you were out there engaged in an activity with a mini-boat. That you had unnecesary garbage flowing through your brain at the time and it caused you to be distracted at a key moment and you made a mistake, and over you went.

It would not be significant to know what precisely the thought was that distracted you because thoughts in general are largely insignificant crap that clutter of one's ability to be fully aware.  Hence knowing precisely which thought is very insignifant when it comes down to it being distractful enough to effectively cause bodily injury or take away one's life.

There are people that are accident prone. And there have been studies on automobile drivers and it has been proven that those involved in accidents tend to be repeaters of accidents. The same in those that commit criminal offenses. In fact, much of the solving of crime occurs because crime solvers learn more and more about the history of the criminal. His future acts are seen to be largely predetermined, habitually repeatd, with regard to his past.

enough for now got to go.

-*- turiya