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Does any one Know how to kill large Ascaris that has migrated outside intestine. I am on beginning of week three of mop up. As soon as I start to feel a little better, after enemas, herbs, cleanses, colosan, betonite clay, diatamacious earth, and pau d arco tea I feel large worm lay eggs.AS I start to feel clean large worm moves. I feel it leave what seems to be my spleen, not sure, I feel it around tenth rib on left side. I also feel muscles near colar bone twitch, then 20 to 40 min later I feel eggs in digestive track. Wassabi cleanse and coffe enemas seem to keep eggs from hatching in liver and cystic ducts, but it constant battle I cant keep this up much longer, they become resistant to vitamins, cleanses, herbs, medicines. I can feel them fighting back intensly. help?- Re: huge ascaris problem,help... #102879
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This is a reply to # 1,262,318I have those too and I'm having a similar problem. When I first started taking DE along with zapping I saw them in the stool. Then a few days later I felt them & took three days of mebendazole 100mg x2 a day but that’s all I could get of it and it wasn't enough. How much did you take and what? I've been trying everything since then & I feel them weaken or fighting for their lives at times but I haven't seen anything in the stool since that once. I heard when they die they lay eggs, that’s why it gets worse so you have to keep going in rounds until your system is completely cleansed. Some say this may take 2 years if not longer.
I've ordered humaworm & meds and am currently taking a Chinese herbal remedy, Colloidal Silver and atomidine among all sorts of anti-parasitic herbs. I've also restricted my diet. You have to get your body alkaline. Absolutely no sweets even fruits. I'm basically only eating chicken and broccoli but I've added solid with olive oil and herbs like thyme for dressing. Make sure you don't eat any squash if you have Ascaris because I read in Dr. Clark's list of foods worms like that they like squash. That’s how I know I have them; they went crazy after I ate some squash once.
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This is a reply to # 1,262,341I took mebendazole 100 2xs a day for 2 weeks. Made things worse, by causing large worms to migrate. But it did kill eggs and small worms inside alimentary canal.I am going to use it as a clean up once I kill all of the adult worms. Now I am searching for a way to kill large worms that have migrated, humaworm, and or praziquazantel? Mean while, I am on beginning of week three with l cysteine and ozo oil.- Re: huge ascaris problem,help... UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,262,494I'm not sure you can kill the large ones off first. Maybe with DE, if you could get them to stay in your stomach and intestines. Worms are like everything else when poisoned. The first to die are the weakest ones, which are the babies and the old ones that were about to die anyways. The hardy adults are the ones last to go. My strategy has been to keep the babies killed off regularly, before they have a chance to start mating, and wait for the big ones to get old, stop laying eggs, and die. I read somewhere that Ascaris live 2-5 years max. The life cycle is every 2 months. In other words, if you wait two months to do your next cleanse, they've had time to mate and lay eggs. Ten days on, Ten days off for five years should do it, if you rotate products and take as much as you can tolerate. The doses recommended on the labels don't even come close to killing off the ones that are in the deeper tissues. Have you flushed your liver? Are you taking Iodine? Have you tried Boodroot? If all else fails, try bloodroot. It it not for sissies. The herxing is hellatious. But it works.
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The ones that are full of eggs when they die are strongyloides, I believe.
And I think they are the only ones that move around under the skin. A person would very likely know when they have them. And they are quite small.
Without intending offense, I believe the imagination is very powerful, especially when we apply it to negatives, with liberal amounts of fear.
We have no windows to our interiors, which is a pity because we would likely see other conditions, and strengths, than we have ever dreamed.
I've had 'events' that were nothing like what I expected...and times of feeling so very well that the scary moments were entirely forgotten, and I felt youthful, as though I had come home to my real self.
Whatever our protocols, we all must start from where we are, not necessarily where we imagine we are...and, since we can pick up critters at any moment, we will likely be deworming at appropriate intervals for the rest of our lives...just so that we CAN forget about critters and get on with the things we enjoy.
Immunity is the thing that keeps us alive. Even today, when we feel what we think are parasites, we have a huge helping of immunity that keeps us from keeling over in one minute.
The body heals itself. The only thing we need to do is to work WITH the body, gently and wisely.
Immunity builds as we get better and better at SUPPORTING bodily functions...NOT trying to force them.
Give the body wholesome nutrients, movement, water, and plenty of rest, and it will rebuild immunity, itself.
More than that, as immunity improves, it pitches in on the jobs of protecting and healing.
We are all at different stages, with our unique needs. And we all have the improvements made by our distant ancestors...in our genes.
We are the finest specimens of our species ever to walk this planet.
All we need to do is to make wise choices for strengthening/supporting our immune systems, including rest, and the body will do its best for us.
This has always been true, even when we had never thought of parasites.
You can do this...your body can do this. Trust that, and listen to the 'messages from the interior'.
Worry doesn't help a bit.
Be well, my friends.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,262,381"Without intending offense, I believe the imagination is very powerful, especially when we apply it to negatives, with liberal amounts of fear."
This is extremely helpful for people like me, who frequently has a hard time differentiating between paranoia, hallucination, imagination and reality. Especially around the full moon when I start to feel them biting hard and I start taking mega doses to keep them from gaining ground. Thank you.- Re: you say fledgling
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This is a reply to # 1,263,604Thanks, Glaxony,
My imagination used to serve me up dire consequenses galore, once upon a time. I could easily have put on a hair shirt and marched about with signs saying, "Repent. The end of the world is near."
I didn't...but I did pay attention to the dates predicted! As they came and went, I was relieved, and began to realize there were other forces at work for betterment of life on this planet.
I was amazed to see that I CAN alter not only my own feelings of comfort, but, somehow, others'.
Simplicity is part of it. All the complicated things were confusing. You know that old phrase about 'splitting hairs', where a person goes ever deeper into 'reasons' and possibilities?
Well, it's true. I was doing it to clutch on to any straw that might save me from the whirlpool. Eventually I caught on to one good idea...fake it.
I wanted to lose weight. Some book had suggested 'visualization'. I figured that my body already knew how to be sixteen, though I was 46...so I fixed on a picture of myself at sixteen, tacked it to my bathroom mirror, bought a grain mill, threw out white flour and White Sugar , and so on.
I also forgot to look at the picture, but my common sense told me that I didn't want to ACT like a sixteen-year-old, :D, just look like one.
I ignored all voices of doubt, even my own. I felt like I had stepped into a new and unexplored avenue.
W-e-e-ell, I can tell you...be careful what you wish for!!!
Every part of my life changed! Some important parts of it within days! AND I found I was NOT prepared to handle all of the differences...though I did manage to stay true to my principles. I began to learn, fast.
Do you know what was a very big deal to me? As the weight fell off, people in the street, who I knew as acquaintances, said 'Hello' to me first, BEFORE I said 'Hello' to them!
That might not mean much to most people, but it floored me. I hadn't realized how 'low' I had drifted...and others had unconsciously reacted to it.
That's when I began to recognize 'corks'.
Corks are the stoppers to the things we want to do...and they are everywhere. There's one out in my garage right now. It's a British India carpet we bought from a long-time friend and have used it well. BUT it is rolled and bent on top of half a garage full of 'stuff' which is piled to the rafters...all very nicely sorted and boxed, mind you, but that darn carpet is just too heavy for us, and it needs cleaning.
Until that 'cork' is pulled from the garage, there is no way we could even hope to get at or sell off the rest of our 'stuff'.
Do you see what I mean about 'corks'?
They can be anything that we 'allow' to get in our way...for sentimental reasons, or out of habit, or because we have mistakenly believed it to be important to our well-being.
...Like a rabbit's foot, or our 'lucky' shoes.
Commitment to a child IS important; a dislike of any green food is NOT.
What if you were never confused about your thinking? What if you 'allowed' that your best ideas would come to you at the exact moment you needed them?
What if a slower, gentler, supportive approach to body care is what is needed now?
I am in no position to judge what you or anyone should do, of course. I only know that, for me, doing only the 'same old' optionals, gets me only the 'same old' results.
There IS no question about the basics, however. There is no question about my commitment to my son, or his family, or the extended family I married, or to my dh. (He's a keeper.) Nothing I say or do or believe in should ever harm them in any way...that's a given, and my life's responsibility.
But the optionals, the stuff I 'could' change...well, that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish! And, 'can't' just doesn't come into it.
'Scuse me rambling, Glaxony. Sometimes I just gotta rattle on...see what it is I really think.
Do you know how important you are to folks around here? You'd blush!!!
My best,
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This is a reply to # 1,262,318i agree with fledgling here, you must realise this is not beyond you. underneath your exterior is the same kind of bones, same kind of fat, same kind of blood as me. i have all things against me when i begin cleansing like you, i was raised on soy milk, terrible allergies, in and out of hospital with nightmare stomach pains, tubes everywhere, asthma attacks, maybe even rickets at one point, i just absorbed little to nothing.. i grow up then overeating mcdonalds sometimes above 7 times a week and poisoning myself, drink whisky too much.. and still i am here purging and getting better. yes there are lows but i continue to reach new plateaus of health. this is a scary time but i am doing it, and that means you can too.
i have not touched alcohol or anything like that since i remember, the more you take the pressure off your body, your senses become less dulled and you know more and more what is right for you.. but only take this at a rate you can handle, we all want you to be well, you must keep it at a rate where you are cleansing but still able to function albeit to a lesser degree.
rest well and trust in nature. its a miracle, we are nothing like the machines we build. we do not wear out so easily. we can repair and heal. life does not need be a downward spiral of health.
do not fear, you are not alone. let us know how you get on my friend. - Re: huge ascaris problem,help... dariushsweden
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,262,318Humaworm, praziaquantel, ozonated olive oil, l-cysteine etc all helps with ascaris.
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This is a reply to # 1,262,407Will pariquazantel kill large Ascaris outside intestine. I f so will it cause the ones in intestine to migrate. I took vermox for two weeks and they migrated outside intestine 4 months ago.vermox wont kill the large ones, just makes them angry. Will humaworm kill round worms that have migrated. Is it neccesary to take l- cysteine, ozo olive oil, cloves, walnut hulls, Wormwood , humaworm, and pariquazantel?- Re: huge ascaris problem,help... dariushsweden
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Prazi will work systemically, meaning the whole body.
Vermox only works for pinworms and roundworms (toxocara) I think and is far too week for ascaris. Humaworm will kill them too. Or try ozonated olive oil + humaworm will probably kill them all at once- Re: huge ascaris problem,help... xrayu
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This is a reply to # 1,262,497I just realized I dont need humaworm, I am currently taking the majority of those herbs in humaworm. I am taking ozo oil and l-cysteine. I thought the oil only works in intestine. Ive got one more week of l-cysteine w oil. Should I start prazi now or wait? I am concerned that I will never get better unless I kill all of them at once.
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This is a reply to # 1,262,538If you are using herbs, please understand that there is a big difference in the quality of the herbs between one source and another. I've had very good success with Humaworm, they use very high quality herbs, and they will also custom make formulas for you. You can call them, tell them what is going on, and ask for an extra strong formula. Remember that the bigger the die off, the sicker you are going to get, so be prepared for some down time if that is the way that you go. The combination is also synergistic, the herbs work together, and Humaworm also works on scattered critters, better than the tinctures do.
Also, do liver flushes, coffee enemas, take L-orinthene for die off, don't suffer like I did because there was so much stuff I didn't know about. If you do take the Prazi, be sure you've got the correct dose, enough to really kill the worms, but not yourself. Glaxony carries a dead Ascaris around in her pocketbook, now I'm sorry I didn't save a few of mine as trophies, think about sticking the dead ones in alcohol, then if you want to see an MD they have less to argue with you about.
And for heavens sake, give the critters something they really want to eat in your intestines, lure them back where you want them. Also, get a zapper. You can kill them off just fine with this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Worlds-Smallest-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-30kHz_W0QQitemZ3500991...
Good luck with it,
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Julie, I have been at this a while now, got zapper 4 months ago, no Sugar or alcohol, very low carb all organic foods fighting worms and work is mostly all I do. Did you do the mop up w l-cysteine and ozonated olive oil for three weeks, if so did you kill all of the worms, or did you wait a week and double the dosages for one day or just continue mop up till all worms dead? Any one been through this with some answers, thanks- Re: huge ascaris problem,help...EDIT #87980
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This is a reply to # 1,263,538I'm glad you have a zapper. I've been at this for a while. I got rid of a big tape worm about two years ago, before I found out about curezone, and believed the MD's who say there is usually just one large worm. I'm older, and I found out I had a pretty heavy worm load, and I've been unable to take time off work to cleanse, so I've done it according to my work schedule. I just piled on as much stuff as I could handle, and planned the die off for days I wasn't working. I discovered on my second cleanse that I has ascaris, then found out about the flukes and smaller tape worms as I found evidence. What works well for me is four days on, three days off of whatever combination of herbs I'm takeing. The one time I took pharmaseudicals, I got scattering, the zapper took care of that. I do three days retail, work two days at home and (sort of) have two days off, so I do the heavy cleaning when I don't have to go run my shop in public, and use a public restroom. I don't know if I've killed off all the cysts, and all the worms, I know I've gotten a lot of them, and it's an ongoing process, because unfortunately I don't think it's possible to get all the cysts and eggs in one shot. Or even two or three. But the good news is that the more that you clease, the more your health improves, and the easier it gets. I did the ozonated olive oil and the L cystine, but I didn't think it was as effective as some of the herbal combinations I've come up with due to my own research. I also used the zapper a lot with that one, as I recall it was pretty effective, and I backed off after I got a lot of dead ones, and my job got intense. All the helmeths lay millions of eggs, and they become resistant to whatever you throw at them pretty quickly, so it's important to educate yourself, and keep switching up herbs. Do it during the full moon, and the new moon, for some reason it's easier to kill them then. Current favorite herb combo, Olive leaf extract -Garlic and cayenne,- and oil of oregeno and peppermint oil, and tumeric and bromelain. Also flaxseed oil, it seems to take out worms in combination with the oil of oregeno. Generally start with a low dose of an herb, and sneak up the dose as you can handle it without getting so sick you can't work. With what I take now, which I consider in between house keeping herbs, I would have been knocked flat when I started. Here is a very good site with give current research on herbs, and also possible interactions between herbs and drugs: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/kava-kava-000259.htm You are going to have to pay attention to what comes out of you, and how you feel, and learn to recognize worm die off versus reaction to an herb, or combination of herbs. After you've experienced die off, you will recoginze it the next time. Basically, I don't use tinctures at all, that is herbs that are preserved in alcohol, so I have to get really high quality herbs and make infusions, teas, or take capsules. Capsules are the easiest. Humaworm is a good one as a combination herbal to start off with. Also Barefoot does a very good dewormer, I don't take it because it is a tincture, however I know other people here have used it with good results. I don't tolerate cloves very well, they are recommended by a lot of people to kill parasite eggs, I just can't take them everyday. If you can take them every day, do it. For daily use, I do oil of oregeno and olive leaf extract, but then I add a lot of the others as well. I buy the herbs either in bulk from frontier herbs, or from iHerb, both are pretty inexpensive. I also really think that carrot juice helps a lot, it seems to help heal the intestines, and carrots are anti worm, and they are cheap, even the organic ones. Using the zapper in combination with whatever else you are doing really helps, so do it also. The other forums I've found helpful are: Ask Dr. Sutter (he has his own battle with parasites) the Barefoot Herbalist- he's very knowledgeable Ask Humaworm, they will answer questions whether you buy their stuff or not. Good luck on your quest, and blessings, Julie
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This is a reply to # 1,262,497mine were immune to humaworm
it was like taking nothing
did not request extra strenght however
i got wads of them out with experience and clear
garlic capsules gets results too
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This is a reply to # 1,262,318I'm sorry to say this, but I think your diet is working against your ability to do in the round worms. They just love sugar, if you give it to them IN your intestines they are smart enough to come and get it. You literally have to use food as bait, just like catching a mouse, or any other type of animal that moves around. I lot of people take something sweet, then wait about an half an hour to take the anti- parasite herbs. When I'm doing a big cleanse, that's what I do. It works, after all, why did they leave your intestines, which is their natural habitat in the first place?
All that chicken and brocoli. I ususally use honey, but if I had badly scattered worms, I'd be very temped to give them exactly what they look for right where it's easiest to kill them. I read one post where the gal took a teaspoon of jelly an half an hour before the herbs. If you are diabetic, that could be a problem, but if not, try thinking like a round worm. Essentially, you are hunting, you have to understand the critter in order to kill it without hurting yourself.
I hope this helps, they are tough nasty critters, and I suspect that the reproduce so efficiently they are hard to kill off whatever you use. I've getting success killing them off with what I consider maitenence, I've been doing some Liver Cleansing (just taking magnesium malate/malic acid, which freed up some stones) and then I started getting a lot of dead flukes and round worms. And I've been at it a while, killed a lot of them, and I'm very surprised at how tenacious they can be.
The more you understand about what you are dealing with, the more successful you will be. I also think that the drugs can really be a problem if they aren't given in a big enough dose to effectively kill everything. The one pharmaseutical I took, which was pyrantel pomeate, left me with scattering up by my left eye, and a nasty eye floater, and it took quite a while to get those guys either dead, or quiet. With a big worm load, my choice was to stick to a patient, safe, protocol, I didn't get the worm load I had overnight, and I can't get rid of it immediately. I'm also 58, I just didn't think I had much chance with getting my liver to recover from damage done by some of the drugs.
When you get to the point that your health is improving, rather than going down hill, it's much easier to kill the critters, but that takes a LOT of changes.
parasite Rex is a wonderful book, you might enjoy reading it. And I am sorry you are having trouble, they are scary, but remember, you are a lot smarter than a worm, and you can kill it off if you think it through, and make health decisions that are really what you can stand behind, because you have done your research and you understand the consequences.
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This is a reply to # 1,262,541I have tons of Ascaris all over my body.They migrated after taking vermox 4 months ago. What is the most efficient way to get them back into intestine where they can be killed. Honey, jelly, sugar? how much, how often?
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This is a reply to # 1,262,541What about Bentonite clay? I read that's supposed to attract them and pull them out when it passes through the body. Maybe I'll try it. I'm just sort of confused about all this. I was trying to starve them off somehow by flooding my bloodstream with all these herbs & tonics and nothing they liked, like a fast. But that makes sense too, luring them to the stomach then posioning them. Its just hard to know if the poison will take effect before they have eaten and moved on.
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