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Hello everyone,
Today is day 4 of my water & coffee fast. I'm using coffee (black with Stevia to sweeten it up) for two reasons: 1) to help boost my energy level and; 2) to help stave off hunger.
I know, I know. Most of you will either raise an eyebrow or offer your critique. That's fine - I'm happy to receive both.
I completed my first 11 day fast just about three months ago although I was really hoping to go for 20 days. Since then I've had either a lack of will-power or focus to go more than 3-4 days at a time before caving in while I was attempting another 20 day fast. This time around I believe I have the will-power to go the full distance of either 20 or 30 days, with some help, of course.
I'm using coffee only as a temporary measure for the two reasons stated above. I understand that the whole point of the fasting is for healing and cleansing of the body. To this I am quite certain that the long fast itself will help clean/flush out the caffeine, sort of a counter measure of my drinking coffee.
I’m happy to report that on day 4 I’m doing fine and believe I have a good opportunity to go beyond my 11-day record. And to echo what someone else said in another post – I’m not making any period of time a goal because if I fall short of that goal I’ll feel as if though I’ve failed. So no number of days set.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,244,149PS: I should have added this to my post above:
Chrisb1 - I'm taking your advice and input in reply to my last post; this time around no exercising and no working out. During my most recent fasting attempt, working out and exercising made me too hungry and I am confident that it was a contributing factor to my falling short of my goal. - Re: Water fasting & Coffee? (day 4 o... mouseclick
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This is a reply to # 1,244,149Well, you are not doing a water fast, you are doing a coffee and stevia diet, which sounds a pretty bad idea to me. There is no nutrition in that at all, and your poor old body has to work to get rid of it while getting no real food.
Also, I am wondering how accurate your posts reflect what you are actually doing, because I looked at your previous posts to see what the conversation with chrisb1 was and found that 4 months ago you said...
"I've been fasting for close to 3 months now, on and off. Have not been consistent the entire three months. But I have lost significant weight. As of this morning I'm down to 156 from 185 in mid-February. I'm a 39yr old guy, only 5'7" so that amount of weight loss is pretty significant."
This seems to contradict what you have said above, so I am a bit confused as to how long you were fasting (if it was a fast) previously, and if you did water fast, why are you now turning to coffee and sweetener?
My advice is simple. On a water fast, drink water only. That way you will detox and not feel hungry.
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This is a reply to # 1,244,171Hi Mouseclick,
I agree with your post. This person seems to be on a starvation diet and not a water fast.
Great picture of you diving, are you still on vacation, or maybe holiday you would call it? I've missed seeing you post while you've been gone, but who wants to post online when you could be diving? I sure wouldn't!
I'm getting myself mentally prepared to start a fast. I haven't been able to go for very long in the past so I've been reading all the posts and bought a few books on fasting, I think I'm ready now.
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This is a reply to # 1,244,184Hi LivingBlessed! Thanks for the compliment. I went to Malta for a week diving, but now I am in Scotland helping some friends install a fitted kitchen, so it's a sort of a working holiday, but I am enjoying it. I am a bit busy so limited time online for me until the end of the month. Good luck on your future fast!
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This is a reply to # 1,244,171In the past when I've fasted it's been for short periods: 1 day, 3 days, 4 days - at a time - each have consistently been water only. My longest period (water only) was 11 days straight.
I drink on average 32oz to 64oz of water per day whether fasting or not.
This fasting period I am using coffee as I mentioned before with 1 cup in the morning and 1 cup early afternoon with just a few drops of Stevia. To say it's not a water only fast would not be an accurate assessment.
Now I want to clarify something - I'm not planning to continue the coffee on a daily basis. That was just to get me over the 3-day hump when it's probably the most challenging time to get into the cycle of fasting. I plan on having a cup or two only on days when I lack energy or feel hungry. That's been my Achilles’ heel in the past.- Re: Water fasting & Coffee? (day 4 o... LivingBlessed
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This is a reply to # 1,244,190Hi cduliga,
I am by no means an expert, I haven't even been able to stay on a fast for more than a couple of days, I just know what I read in books and from posts on this forum.
I know for a fact that everyone will tell you not to drink the coffee, it's a stimulant. Anything other than water will trigger hunger.
That being said, everyone has to do what works for them. Maybe you won't drink the coffee much longer. Good luck with your fast.- Re: Water fasting & Coffee? (day 4 o... mouseclick
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This is a reply to # 1,244,194Agree, and I have tried coffee too, but after a few days I felt pretty awful, and when I did stop it I only lasted a few more days on my fast.
Honestly, plain water is much easier. I bet the coffee is just to satisfy boredom and craving.
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This is a reply to # 1,244,190I find this a fascinating subject. -- Someone wanting to drink coffee on one of these fasts and still consider it a water fast.
The obvious question to me is - is your addiction such that this is a justified way to not part with your daily dose of caffeine?
I can tell from what your stating regarding coffee that you consider that coffee is actually giving you energy.
There is no energy to be obtained from coffee or those gimmicky "energy" drinks.
What you feel in the body as a result of drinking either of these is your bodies reaction to having to handling the stimulant substances in each.
In other words the "energy" you feel is what is already in the body and the stimulant is fact draining it.
I wish you luck with your fasting. You may want to re-consider parts of it.
There are a lot of very well informed people on this forum that can be of assistance.- Re: Water fasting & Coffee? (day 4 o... cduliga
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This is a reply to # 1,244,230Actually, I seldom drink coffee so there's no coffee addiction here and I do get the energy boost I'm looking for. Notice - I said coffee – black and I also I labeled this thread Water Fasting & Coffee. I did not say "energy drink" as that has sugar, carbs and other substances.
Coffee by itself is perfect: zero carbs, zero calories, zero fat and zero sugar. Caffeine does provide energy by stimulating the effects of two hormones: adrenaline and glucagon. So the body is energized from caffeine. When the body has depleted all short-term sources of energy through fasting (not starving) it will then turn to fat; that’s the purpose of fasting. Drinking coffee in no way diminishes the body’s response to fasting by turning to fat and other sources in the body for energy because there is nothing for the body to gain from coffee itself. The only benefit is as I’ve stated above.
I’ll agree I’m definitely not doing the water-only diet because I’m cheating with coffee – only when I’m drinking it, that is. Earlier in this thread I believe I very clearly stated my reasons for trying this method and how and when I plan on drinking coffee.
I appreciate the feedback, although I am looking for more constructive input and feedback rather than just criticism.
I’m curious, how many of you broke your fasting (or caved in) on a day when you found yourself low on energy and/or you felt hungry? I have – many times. Could you have gone longer to gain more benefits from fasting had you not felt tired or hungry?
To realize the full health benefits of fasting you’d have to go the full distance – 30 days. After day 10 and on through day 30 is when the greatest potential for health benefits is realized. But what if you never make it past day 10 or day 15?
So you’d have to weigh the cost/benefit factor here: drink 1 cup of coffee to help you through that low-energy day and maintaining your fast in order to gain the benefits that can only be gained from day 10 through 30 or just cave in like you may have in the past and never fully realize the full potential benefits that are reserved for those who actually make it to day 30?- Re: Water fasting & Coffee? (day 4 o... #48688
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This is a reply to # 1,244,286I just completed a 35 day water only fast and I didn't "cave in" and I wasn't hungry till the last day when natural hunger returned.
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"To realize the full health benefits of fasting you’d have to go the full distance – 30 days. After day 10 and on through day 30 is when the greatest potential for health benefits is realized. But what if you never make it past day 10 or day 15?"
That is not true. You can benefit fasting 24 to 36 hours a week, and a 7 to 10 days every 3 months. Paul Bragg did this routine faithfully. Stating that he only ate 12 meals a week, and sometimes less if he didn't feel hungry.
You obviously don't understand the concept of why you fast. To give your body a rest from the continual dumping of food into the digestive system. Yes, even coffee, and Stevia requires energy that takes away from the cleansing, and detoxing. That is the reason you fast in the first place. In addition, every time you complete a fast regardless of the length, you have strengthened the physcological aspect of telling your body, and concious mind that it is you that are at the controls, not some dumb body mass that dictates when you eat, and what you crave. Every fast you complete regardless of the length will make the next fast that much easier because you will have sorted out this phycological battle about who is running the show.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with only doing a 24 hour fast for a few times. Then graduate to a 36 hour fast, and so on. Distilled water only.
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This is a reply to # 1,244,765People seem to have missed research on the benefits of coffee. Studies have shown that people who drink coffee regularly have 60% smaller chance of getting colon cancer and a significantly reduced risk of liver cancer (can't remember the percentage) because it stimulates bile flow. Coffee has also got very high amounts of antioxidants which only aids in detoxing the system. SO THERE! I am not taking the time to find the link to the studies but doctor oz had a show where he discussed this. So adding coffee to a fast may simply help detoxing the body during a liquid fast.
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This is a reply to # 2,001,802Coffee may have its benefits while eating, but a water-only-fast is more productive and efficient in healing and cleansing while consuming water-only.
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This is a reply to # 2,001,802I agree, Black Coffee, Black or Green Tea, or just plain water are fine for life fasting, I would advise mineral water for tiny trace elements of salts though, just to have piece of mind,
I'm unable to specify how,what, why and when i'm life fasting as influence could damage someone who is already struggling,
There are a few obvious and basic points to take into account when in your daily routine,
1. Exercise should not get in the way of fasting, lessen it to be comfy but don't do nothing,
2. Natural salts and sugars are better from fruit over most other food groups, but not all fruit, look up acid /alkaline for a balance)
3. Healthy fasting should be a daily activity,
4. Never force the body beyond what is comfortable, a warm body is key,
5. For heavens sake don't confuse Survival over Starvation, your mind is not as strong as the body when starvation takes over,
I've been alternating my fasting routines for over 10 years, we are not going to get anywhere with paper Science and silly generic tests, empirical proof of the individual is truth, we are not all the sameand neither is the environment we choose or are forced to live in...
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This is a reply to # 1,244,765Thank-you for your reply. It answers and supports my concerns. I thought that drinking a cup of coffee on my seventh day might be a pleasant boost to the process, but I agree, it will likely just confuse my body from the "purpose". I also agree that fasting of any kind is beneficial but longer fasts provide the greatest benefit. My hats off to you on 35 days. My longest is 25 days and having fasted for 38 times in 13 years, my average is 6.5 days. Have a great day!
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This is a reply to # 1,244,230I just posted a message regarding Water Fasting below but maybe you might answer my questions. I'm thinking of ending my 7 day fast and have never tried coffee for a boost or energy help. Your response is more in tune with my research, theory and experience about "pure water (therapeutic) fasting" that it is done to "rid" the body of chemicals and toxins. Coffee is definitely a chemical but when not fasting I use it for energy spurts and it definitely works. So maybe you can help answer my questions.
"I'm an experienced "pure water (therapeutic) faster" and have never added coffee to the fast. I'm curious for the following reasons:
(1) Why did you think to add coffee?
(2) Do you continually drink coffee on your fast?
(3) I'm currently on a pure Water Fast (7th day) and thinking about trying a cup of coffee. Your thoughts?
(4) Do you get any "side effects" from the coffee (headache, nervousness, jitters, upset stomach, etc.)?
Thank-you for your response in advance.
v/Rod"
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Hi Cduliga,
I do sympathise. I give up coffee for sometimes a week but i always go back to it. All it takes is a low energy day, maybe bad night, and i'm back on it.
I've often thought if i could drink coffee i would find it easy giving up the food on a fast.
If you are going to use it just for a day or two, and only two cups, well i personally don't see that as a problem but i know everyone else will disagree.
I see it as a means to an end. The stevia is probably not a good idea though. I don't take Sugar in tea or coffee so that is not a problem for me. I do prefer it with just a dash of milk rather than black, but would rather have it black than not at all.
I think further into a fast it would be dangerous to consume coffee though.
I'm going to try EFT again for coffee cravings. It seemed to work once before, for awhile anyway.- Re: Water fasting & Coffee? (day 4 o... #48688
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This is a reply to # 1,245,134Bling,
One of the best things for reducing or eliminating coffee cravings is a fast.
What continues to cause the cravings, even after not having had any for some time, is the toxic residues left behind in the tissues of the body from any earlier consumption of coffee.
This is true with any drug.
Most drug treatment programs are geared toward training the person in different methods to resist the drugs in the future.
Even Alcoholics Anonymous rewards people with little trinkets indicating how many months since they last touched a drink.
Its geared around resistance, rather than removing the cause of the cravings.
I believe there is one drug treatment program that uses the sauna as a means of getting the residues out of the body and supposedly that program has about a 98 percent success rate as compared to I believe something on the order of about a 30 to 40 percent rate for most of the programs that train in resistance.
With a fast, the body cleans out all that stuff.
It works on cleaning out all toxins. So eventually a person would become clean of the cause of the cravings.
I was a coffee drinker before my last fast and as of now I have no interest in it.
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This is a reply to # 1,244,149cduliga,
Mouseclick and livingblessed are quite right here.
You are doing yourself a disservice by assuming that coffee & stevia will give you the energy to see you through the first few days.
This is only an illusion, as coffee is a stimulant and therefore wasteful of your energy and life-force.
If you stop the coffee at that point you are really only delaying the inevitable symptoms of detox for a longer period of time, and where coffee in most quarters is considered to be a toxin to the body: why add toxins when your body is trying to expel them? This is counterproductive.
In addition someone mentioned a starvation diet (rightly so) as you will not enter full ketosis but be living from a malnourished diet instead.
I recommend that you discard the coffee in favor of water according to thirst: your body will thank you for it.
Regards
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This is a reply to # 1,244,149i think what you are doing is not healthy. and is going to be worst for when you start your Water Fast because you will get bad withdrawls from the caffein.
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This is a reply to # 1,244,281Tomorrow (8/25/08) is my 5th day fasting. Although I was drinking 32-64oz's of water with 2 cups of coffee daily for day 1-4, I plan on eliminating the coffee tomorrow and continuing my fast with water only.
I'll keep you posted on the net results of my caffeine intake from day 1-4 and if there is any negative fallout from it. - Re: Water fasting & Coffee? (day 4 o... bling
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Well if he was having more coffee before, then at least he is cutting back, then out completely.
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This is a reply to # 1,244,149If you ingest anything other than water on a "water fast" you have technically broken your fast. The caffeine in black coffee, even without the stevia, has an impact on the pancreas which in turn effects insulin, which effects glucose. I would stick with water only.
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This is a reply to # 1,244,149Unless, you are fasting to heal your body there is no reason you CAN'T drink coffee. If you are fasting to heal your body then you shouldn't put anything in it other than water to completely cleanse. So many people do this type of fasting and all have their own discrepancies but for me even being on a liquid fast is good enough to give your colon and digestive system a rest. It all depends on what type of healing you want to receive.
Note though, that if you are trying to get past the point of hunger pangs,(for me is always day 3/4 of strictly water only) then putting anything in your body other than water will only prolong these feelings because your body is trying to digest what you are putting in it thus creating that hunger feeling.
Work through it and mentally stay busy and you'll do great! Mind over Matter people.
It isn't easy for me being a major Sugar junkie, especially craving it at night while watching TV but I have to fight it if I want the years of abuse to be cured.
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This is a reply to # 1,244,149Taming The mind is such an important part of the fasting process.
I feel that if someone believes that they need coffee to start a fast
And that keeps them on the path to a long detox, why not?
I have never felt the benefits from a short fast as much as
A longer fast so I think the longer fast is the way to go.
If you ask me the short fast is a form of self torture!
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This is a reply to # 1,244,149I'm an experienced "pure water (therapeutic) faster" and have never added coffee to the fast. I'm curious for the following reasons:
(1) Why did you think to add coffee?
(2) Do you continually drink coffee on your fast?
(3) I'm currently on a pure Water Fast (7th day) and thinking about trying a cup of coffee. Your thoughts?
(4) Do you get any "side effects" from the coffee (headache, nervousness, jitters, upset stomach, etc.)?
Thank-you for your response in advance.
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This is a reply to # 1,244,149Great Post, I can truly relate to what you are writing. Currently I am in day 3 of a 5 day "quick fast" only because I need to get to work and must get back to eating. I broke down and am drinking a little black coffee(no sweetener)after 40 hrs. I did fast for 10 days a couple of years ago and remember doing the same back then . I am following the Lemonade Diet and I was losing my energy and focus and needed my brain energy to accomplish some work . I am flushing out my self but mainly I am doing this in order to re-activate better eating habits and lose some weight. What I know from past experience is the up and downs of my mood and energy. I also get headaches from no caffeine , but at least I am not taking any Sugar (never do) or milk .
Thanks for reading my post , comments welcome....
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