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How many folks out there with Paroxyml AF have associated chest pain with their episodes??- Re: AF and Chest Pain jerrynmn1
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Hi Gord-
Some people with affib develop chest pain as their chest muscles go into a benign spasm from the way the affib affects their chest area , others "carry" their bodies unknowingly in an akward,unatural manner while they are in affib- Sometimes I will have chest pain when I am in affib also. Usually if you can replicate the pain by moving your body around you will know it is muscle related- The only way to be certain that it the chest pain isnot more serious is"
1)Have an echocardiogram test which will then rule out any structural heart damage that could cause affib & chest pain- This will determine that you have "Lone Affib", also known as LAF which is affib caused by idiopathic, non heart related issues- An echocardiogram is a good idea to have done annually if you have affib-
2) The "gold standard" test for CAD (Coronary Heart Disease) is a Nuclear Stress Test which is NOT a regular Stress. Instead it is a test that involves a dye injected into you at various times. You are on the stress machine for only small periods of time and most of the time is just waiting until they put you back on the stress machine at certain intervals-The dye shows any type of coronary artery blockage and once you know that you have no blockages, you can really relax about the chest pain- Jerry- Re: AF and Chest Pain CAPTAIN_GORD
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,056,485Hey Jerry,
This particular forum on AF is (as you can see) not active... but I'm gonna try to get it going again.
Ya, I've had a couple Stress tests, Tilt Table Tests, and the Nuclear Test, and many echocardiograms. So I know my heart is in good shape, I a, just so curious to hear other AFibbers and their stories and what they experience for symptoms.
Have you checked out Dr Sutters forum??? I really think you'll enjoy it.
chat later buddy, I'm off to bed
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This is a reply to # 1,056,504Hey Gord-
Thank you-I will check out the Dr.Sutter Forum-
Also there are excellent mailing list Affib groups that I belong to that you may want to join-check them out at these links below-Jerry
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AFIBsupport/?yguid=3888718
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/p_atrial_fib/?yguid=3888718
You can then subscribe to receive e-mail posts from each group by going to the subscribe link at the bottom of each of the above links pages-
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This is a reply to # 1,055,424I have had chest pain with my AFIB though I don't know it was the Paroxyml type. What I learned with mine is that almost ever time I had AFIB there was significant stomach gas along with it. I was told by my physician that many people experienced the same thing. As my AFIB would back off, the gas would come up and the "chest pain" would go away. One thing I learned during those experiences was that by slugging down some apple cider vinegar, it generally made my AFIB go away and it got rid of the gas. I still believe that some my AFIB was associated with what I ate. I believe that to be true for others as well.
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This is a reply to # 1,057,106That is good advice... I have struggled with GERD myself for the past couple of years. For me it was definately the AFIB that came first... (like the chicken and the egg question for many afibbers)... The only foods that really affect me are heavy,greasy foods that get my heart acting up. I don't think my chest pain is gerd though. Not when I am having the AFIB episodes. That particular discomfort is ONLY associated with the AFIB itself. I do get chest pain without AFIB, and I am sure some of that is GERD related and some is not. At least I know from all the tests that I have had (Stress tests, Tilt Table Tests, Nuclear Test, many echocardiograms, ultrasounds) that my heart is not damaged or abnormal and my cholesterol is great. So after these four years, I am able to pretty much ignore the chest discomfort (unless it gets really bad).
I will try the vinager idea... My father uses it and swears by it. I used to use it alot with vegis but haven't in some time. I would add honey to the cider vinager.
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This is a reply to # 1,057,593How I got going on apple cider vinegar is that I was diagnosed diabetic a couple of years ago and in browsing around I found that ACV has lowered blood sugar when taken before meals. That was in a study at the University of Arizona, a small but significant one. So, I kept it on hand, tried it and didn't seem to work for me. Then a little over a year ago I went to a high school reunion luncheon and ate way too many carbohydrates including bread, cheese cake, and other deserts. When I got home my chest was pounding with what I now know was AFIB (it hadn't yet been diagnosed), and I immediately checked my blood sugar and found it to be about 220. My normal BS after a meal is around 95 - 110. My chest was really uncomfortable from the pounding and I thought that it was acting up because of my high BS. So I started chugging ACV. Started with almost a 2 ounce shot glass full and nothing seemed to happen. Then another almost full shot glass, and this time the heart began to come under control so I gave it another shot. Within a half hour of my first BS test, I tested again and it was 85 and my heart felt completely normal.
I still generally take ACV with a meal and when I've eaten something out of bounds, I do it double. (I'm on the Virginia Mason Diabetes diet which is no more than 15 carbohydrates per meal, for a total of no more than 45 per day. I found that if I violated that, my AFIB would often kick in, particularly with bread and potatoes.)
Three months after the above HS reunion incident, I was diagnosed with AFIB on an EKG. Rather amazing how those things seem to go together, a significant problem, and not too long afterward either a solution or a diagnosis. It's happened to me several times in my 76 years.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,057,106Number one cause of my A-Fib is Sodium nitrates , the preservative in Bacon, hot dogs,ham, deli meats, pepperoni. Of course, caffine goes without saying, and by the way, there is caffine in chocolate, especially dark chocolate. Also, MSG, Aspartame (Nutrasweet), Splenda, and the latest has been cashews. Every episode of A-fib has been linked to artificial chemicals. This probably isn't the case with all A-fib, but maybe someone is like me and will find this information will help. I'm feeling great these days, now these have been eliminated from my diet.
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This is a reply to # 1,172,989That is great that you found your root trigger for AF episodes... Unfortunately for many AFIbbers there are a vast array of triggers. For me there are certainly triggers such as over doing it on caffeine, alcohol or junk food. Also stress has triggered severe episodes for me... But alas, MOST of the time it just happens and I have been (as have the medical 'experts') unable to find any specific triggers what-so-ever for my numerous 'standard' episodes that I have. The best thing for me has been a total lifestyle change and complete attitude change. I accept the AF and do not fear it. BUT I do enjoy a couple coffees's now and again or a big glass of regular coke... and I do sometimes pay the price !!! BUT it is worth it sometimes I suppose...
take care
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This is a reply to # 1,172,989I'm glad I found this post, although it is very old. I think I had A-Fib about a week ago. Whatever it was, it was the scariest thing that ever happened to me. I woke up from a sound sleep and immediately realized something was terribly wrong. My reaction was to stand up and try and figure out what was happening. I felt like one of those people in a movie that have been poisoned and suddenly they grab their neck and fall over and die. I started walking into the next room because my husband wa sleeping downstairs because of my insomnia I had been keeping him awake with the TV, etc. I was too weak to talk or call him, or walk down stairs. So, I came back to my bed and laid halfway down with the phone trying to decide if I should call 911. Also, during this time I was so hot inside I felt like I was on fire. After I laid down, I could tell my heart was beating extremly fast. I had panic attacks when I was young, this was a lot worse and my heart felt all wrong. It slowly subsided. I have high blood pressure and it was very high, so I took cloindine for that, and clonazepam which I have on hand for nerves.
I have known for years that I am very sensitive to Mono-Sodium-Glutamat (Natrium Glutamat) but I didn't have this for a reaction before. But, I had eaten some rice crackers with hazelnuts before bed. Nothing suspicious at all was on the label and I know the terms Mono-Sodium-Glutamat (Natrium Glutamat) can be hidden in. But, they were saltier than normal and I had kind of suspected them once before. I also think my electrolytes were out of balance. I am avoiding the things you mentioned. I am not eating any processed food at all. My chest was sore for a few days and I had been having gurgling up high in my stomach for a few days and gas because I was using oxycleans. I haven't had another full blown episode, but I ate a bunch of walnuts, then I found out that they are high in free glutamate. I found a web site that was really helpful. It is about Mono-Sodium-Glutamat (Natrium Glutamat) (and aspartame) but it has some members who have a-Fib as a reaction.
http://www.msgmyth.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi
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