It has always been about oil, and now it is plain for all to see.
Looking at where the major oil line terminates, it should also be clear who the real powers are directing the puppet goverment in the United States - the one that they install every four years through pre-approved and hand picked candidates in the sham we call "free and democratic elections".
Those powers are the same ones who convene the annual Bilderburg meeting to set the course for the world in the coming years, approve future leaders, and make sure that the plans for a one world government, the New World Order, are on track.
The same powers who control the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations.
The same ones who control most of the secret societies such as the Masons (where those who rise to 33rd degree and above must take spit on the cross and disavow Christ and are finally told that they worship Baal/Satan), Skull and Bones, and the Illuminati whose root name comes from the name for Lucifer.
The same ones whose top ruling family controls half the money supply of the entire world, including the US Federal Reserve and the money of the Vatican.
The same family that has caused all modern wars and financed both sides.
The same ones that planned and largely financed the nation where their ultimate seat of power will be located - yes, that same nation where the largest oil lines in the photographs terminate - and gave their family flag with the Satanic pentagram to that nation, changing only the red color to blue.
The same family who changed their name to one that means literally "Red Shield".
If you cannot figure out who I am talking about or doubt what I am saying, perhaps this link will enlighten you further:
http://www.rense.com/general77/POWERS.HTM
They have gained control of the money supply, and thus the governments, of most countries in the world and most of the media in the world to cover their actions. They stole our nuclear weapon technology and armed their country with nuclear weapons. And now they will be able to control the major pipeline from the country with the world's second largest oil reserves.
It is time that we woke up and realized that it isn't our dreams that contain our worst nightmares, it is the reality that we wake up to.
DQ
And you nailed it too - as technology and the ability to control, filter and manipulate has grown exponentially, so has the approach of the endgame of the evil plan that has spanned centuries and generations. To get an idea, take a look at this old site I found and see how it has sped along as it approached the end of the timeline there - 1995, and then think of how much it has exploded since 1995!
http://www.darkconspiracy.com/conspiracies/nwo/wnwo.txt
I fear that your assessment is frighteningly true, but in my non-failing faith in the good that also lies in our genes I still believe that somehow, some way, we can rise up and stop it - or at least set it back. And I see Ron Paul as the best and maybe last great chance.
When it comes to genes, I think that when we finally break the genetic code in ALL life forms all the way down to must fundamental elements, we will see built in programming for survival and adaptation that have at the very end:
Copyright God
I still do not know how to explain who or what God is, other than to say that when I open my eyes and heart and look at the wonders of our world and the universe, I see God's presence everywhere.
Happy Thanksgiving!
DQ
One never knows what may transpire when a revolution begins - and, depending on how widespread his message comes to be excepted, the Ron Paul revolution may last regardless of the outcome of the vote. The more people he wakes up and instills a return of freedom in, and the wider his message spreads, the better off we may fare. Already, it is spreading to Europe:
Take a look at the video about the Ron Paul movement in Europe at:
Regardless of how doomed it may seem, I will never, ever give up the fight.
And, I hate to break this to you, but there are many who believe firmly that Jimmy Carter was one of "them" too, pre-approved by the Bilderburgs as have been his precessors and successors. He might not have been the first choice, or so the thinking goes, but he was among the choices it all boiled down to and the whole outsider thing was pretty much a charade. The only difference between now and then is that, as you correctly state, the ability to control the vote and election is much greater now. Nevertheless,
"Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense"
Winston Churchill
DQ
It might just be my imagination or wild conspiracy theory, but it surely seems like "someone" drops bye, or lurks on, this forum every so often who has a habit of casting negative votes without offering any supporting opinion or debate.
That is fine, it is anyone's right to do so. But I might suggest that this is a "debate" forum and not merly a "voting station" and so it would be much more effective to validate such votes with an opposing view or opinion.
While I cannot speak for others, it would also make me have much higher regard for whoever it is that likes to leave their negative marks without bothering to explain or defend them.
In my humble opinion, debates, like elections, should best be determined by discussion of the issues and not by how many yard signs, pro or con, one counts in the neighborhood's yards.
As I say, just my humble "opinion", but I would be quite happy to "debate" and defend it.
DQ
Edit: And surely enough, no sooner did I make this post, a negative vote appeared! LOL! Must be one of those dang voting machines we've heard about. And we KNOW who controls those, don't we.
A question that might explain much: does anyone know whether or not a person who has been banned from posting in a forum due to past miscreant behavior is still allowed to view AND VOTE ON messages?
Ah well, at any rate, HAPPY THANKSGIVING, MYSTERY VOTER"
I have to disagree - and allow our mystery voter(s) to cast another negative vote. Yes, we are just grains of sand, you and I, and this forum is just a relative sandbox - but when enough grains of sand get together they can become a sandstorm.
What you believe about the government posters and big pharma runs totally opposite to what one finds when tracking ISP's and one bit of very clear evidence of their active opposition is the tracing of Wikipedia edits back to government offices and big pharma companies.
I have assisted and co-operated with a government investigation (see my profile) against a fake drug company I helped expose (and I am still being harassed and threatened by those I exposed). I know for a fact that they monitor forums left and right.
And here is another consideration: CureZone is an extremely highly ranked traffic site, one of the top two or three alternative health sites on the entire internet. Messages here are thus indexed very highlyand very quickly on Google and other searches. Want to see an example? Google "Laibow Stubblebine" (for Rima Laibow and General Bert Stubblebine - the controversial health freedom "advocates") and the first two hits you will get are MY POSTS here on CureZone, including one I made only yesterday! Or, Google the search term "Laibow Stubblebine deception" and the FIRST FOUR hits are my posts.
If, as many people feel, that team is a black ops group working against health freedom do you not see how a tiny grain of sand might be a very major irritant and you can bet your fanny that those posts alone, just two examples of many such highly indexed CureZone posts on controversial subjects would be enough to warrant some serious "watching", if not actual counter posting.
More chillingly, when you consider who is behind Big Pharma and how ruthless and evil they are and some of the same ones who are behind the real reason for the push towards a New World Order and the so-called red list that is supposed to exist of opponents to be eliminated in the event of a future manufactured crisis that will entail martial law you may see just how much might be at stake by making such posts as I and others have done here. I have no doubts whatsoever that I am on the list now. But what is one to do - be docile and go willingly as our rights and our world is taken away? I think Patrick Henry had a quote about that once upon a time when America was truly America.
You have demonstrated your clear intelligence to in many posts here. I cannot see how you could possibly dismiss the Illuminati if you actually investigated instead of dismissed it out of hand like most do, which of course is exactly what they count on and encourage. I mean, you have only to look at the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Warburgs, Morgans, Oppenheims and Oppenheimers, at all the secret societies for centuries and who their members have been, at the admitted false flag operations, at the Trilateral Commission and Council on Foreign Relations and who has been members of those, at the huge disproportion of Presidents who have been Masons, at the Bilderburg meetings, and the list goes on and on and on. It is there, and it is in plain sight, but you do have to look to see.
I once thought as you did - and openly laughed at those I thought were kooks. Until I found out differently from a very great number of sources. Have no doubt, there are no shortage of true kooks out there. They do a very good job (and in many instances it is a JOB) of helping cover the truth that those who aren't kooks try to expose.
Maybe if you actually found out information from the deathbed confession of a former 33rd degree Mason you would feel differently.
I also once thought that the idea of nature being superior to the science of man was crazy too. But I opened my eyes and investigated the very same way I did the conspiracy for a New World Order, and that included filtering out the hype and the charlatans and the misinformation. My background is in journalism and investigations.
How do you suppose that I found the truth about natural health and yet fell for the myth of a NWO? I suggest that rather, I found the very clear truth in both instances by doing exactly the same thing each time.
DQ
I quite agree that not every poster who disagrees with the very obvious and open for all to see Big Pharma conspiracy is a paid agent and certainly the same is true with those who don't buy into the New World Order conspiracy. However, such conspiracies count on their brainwashing to be so effective as to create de facto agents whose number is even greater than their paid operatives.
On the other hand, it would be very difficult to believe that at least "some" of those who make the posts are compensated and/or required to do do. And, as I posted earlier, votes are kind of like yard signs. By and large those signs contain no reason to vote for the candidate on the sign and while such signs may not be enough to sway enlightened souls like myself or you (well, partially enlightened anyway) on whom to cast their votes for, they are highly effective tools when it comes to the masses, and that is why you see them spring up faster than toadstools in cow patties after a week of rain during election time.
I get sick and tired of hearing the same things you do, and I get pretty flustered when I see some purely outlandish theories, but the reason it sickens me to see some of the things you are talking about is because those very things are too often true. I get far more sick and tired when I see otherwise intelligent people who have been so successfully duped into not believing in the very real menaces beneath their very noses, whether it be the push towards Codex and loss of health freedoms.
Insofar as your specific instances of Bush and the Jews: First of all Dubya could not engineer a paper airplane if the instructions were written in single syllable words. But he could certainly be a puppet placed in office while the masterminds had their way. And, as for the Jews, well perhaps you are familiar with the term "The Synagogue of Satan" in Revelations which refers to those who call themselves Jews but are not?
The so-called "Jews" who are behind so much of the evil in the world are not the Jews who are descendents of the tribe of Abraham. It is not the real semitic Jews who adopted a red flag with a pentagram as their family symbol and changed their name to mean "Red Shield", not they who have financed both sides of wars for centuries now and fomented such wars, not they who control half the wold's money supply in the form of ownership of the major central banks of countries worldwide as well as that of the Vatican, not they who are behind most of the secret societies of the world including the very real Illuminati, not they who pushed for the League of Nations and later donated land for the United Nations building, not they who created and installed Communism (Karl Marx is an example), not they who actually financed and installed Adolph Hitler to eliminate the real Jews, not they who financed and supported mainstream medicine and suppressed natural and homeopathic healing, not they who convene the Bilderburg meetings and determine the fate of the world as well as pick OUR future leaders, and not they whose members and supporters have made these statements:
"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether
World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." -- Statement made before the
United States Senate on Feb. 7, 1950 by James Paul Warburg
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great
publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries"--David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting
in June of 1991
"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." - Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991
"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas." - Brock Adams, Director UN Health Organization
"We are not going to achieve a New World Order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." - Arthur Schlesinger Jr., 'The CFR Journal Foreign Affairs', August 1975.
No, it is not the Jews I have a problem with, it is those who call themselves Jeww.
If you consider yourself a reasonable bright and objective person who likes to form their opinion based on knowledge instead of what you have been programmed to believe, I highly suggest that you do some reading. You might start here:
and see who said what in favor of and against the New World Order, and who has warned about them. Not exactly a list of crazy Don Quixotes, I promise you. A couple of examples:
"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." - Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets
"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties." - New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." - Woodrow Wilson,The New Freedom (1913)
And then do some Google Searches for "Illuminati", "Secret Societies", "New World Order", etc. Look, investigate, become informed. Discard every opinion you find if you wish, just look at indiputable facts and at the people whose names you will find.
After you do that, perhaps you will come back and tell us why it is all just a bunch of wild conspiracies by a bunch of kooks.
One warning: If you do what I suggest, your world and your thinking may never be the same.
As I said BlacknGold, you are a bright person, and even more importanly one who cares and whose heart is in the right place. That is why it pains me to see you among the deceived.
A final thought - even though I enjoy a more or less honest debate from time to time, I really do not have the time to spare to come post and debate conspiracies to the point of getting bogged down and distracted from my main goal of helping ease needless death and suffering through natural healing - something I have devoted the rest of my life to. However, it is hard to do one without the other because if our health freedoms and other freedoms are taken away, there will be very little opportunity and the suffering will be so very much greater.
Best and kindest regards,
DQ
PS - you might also take another look at the last post of mine you responded to - it has been updated.
Well put and I agree entirely. You are a beacon here for those who seek the light of truth. Even though sometimes I might wish for the Cliff Notes version. LOLOLOL
Just kidding, big guy!
I will indeed endeavor to be careful "out amonst 'em", and in my own little slice of freedom and utopia here in the hill country. I dare say that I am not likely to receive any holiday greeting cards from "them" like the one I posted here on CureZone and later copied to my website:
http://www.tbyil.com/Thanksgiving.htm
Although the conspiracy of which we speak has been going on for centuries now, It has often been said that America lost her innocence when Kennedy was assassinated. For those who may sometimes wish for a return to simpler times, in the spirit of this moving on and of this Thanksgiving weekend, I give you:
http://www.tbyil.com/Take%20Me%20Back.htm
and finally, for those who count children, or perhaps grandchildren, among their mixed blessings this weekend of thanks giving:
Have yourself a great holiday weekend!
DQ (AKA Tony Isaacs)
sticking with the theme of terror waged on behalf of oil tyrants, there is evidence of an oil angle to Viet Nam. Many people today are aware that Viet Nam was really about many things, too many to make sense of but most of which are the reasons that have never been told by those in charge of dispensing popular versions of history and news the past many decades. One story out there indicates that among the agendas that Viet Nam was about was about toppling what had then been a dominant religious tradition (obstacle). This obstacle was in part remedied by the slaughter of thousands upon thousands of Buddhists.
On the oil angle to Viet Nam, information on this is fairly ample across the web. The basic gist of it as I remember was that in that era (50's), modern oil exploration economics "science" was still relatively crude. There was a developing techinique back then that made use of various types of technology like seismographic analysis. For instance, through the use of controlled explosions, the energy waves (sound, pressure, etc) given off would often times reveal otherwise invisible pockets of "something" beneath the ocean. People who've slithered themselves into positions of privilege that in turn allow them to send other people's children to kill and die in privileged people's wars would often "discover" these pockets of "something" to be vast reservoirs of oil. What reason could there have been to stage an otherwise senseless war, killing and bombing campaign in and around the ocean beachfronts of Viet Nam? Just like the subject line indicates, survey says - special application of BDA - bomb-damage-assessment.....dying for pipelines. Two references are provided that tell the same basic story. In fact parts of one article appear to be an exact copy of the other article. The latter also digresses into another nugget of alleged revelation that itself has been amply bandied about the web for years; the parternal lineage of one William Slickster Clinton.
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http://www.oilcompanies.net/oil1.htm
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In 1945, Vietnam was still a colony of the French. Laurence Rockefeller, it appears, had given the extensive store of weapons to Ho Chi Minh with the hope that Vietnam would drive out the French so that Standard Oil would be able to take over the as yet undeveloped offshore fields. But in 1954, Vietnamese General Giap finally defeated and drove out the French at Dien Bien Phu with weaponry provided by the U.S. Ho Chi Minh reneged on the deal since he could read too, and he was well aware of the Hoover resource report and knew there was a vast supply of oil off the Vietnamese coast.
"In the 1950's a method of undersea oil exploration was perfected which used small explosions deep in the water and then recorded the sound echoes bouncing off the various layers of rock below. The surveyor could then determine the exact location of the arched salt domes which hold the accumulated oil beneath them. But if this method were used off the Vietnam coast on property Standard didn't own or have the rights to, the Vietnamese, the Chinese, the Japanese and probably even the French would quickly run to the United Nations and complain that America was stealing the oil, and that would shut down the operation.
"In 1964, after Vietnam was divided into North and South, and the contrived Gulf of Tonkin incident, several U.S. aircraft carriers were stationed offshore of Vietnam and the 'war' was started. Every day jet planes would take off from the carriers, bomb locations in North and South Vietnam, and then using normal military procedure when returning would dump their unsafe or unused bombs in the ocean before landing back on the carriers. Safe ordnance drop zones were designated for this purpose away from the carriers.
"Even close-up observers would only notice many small explosions occurring daily in the waters of the South China Sea and thought it was only part of the 'war.' The U.S. Navy carriers had begun Operation Linebacker One, and Standard Oil had begun its ten year oil survey of the seabed off of Vietnam. And the Vietnamese, Chinese and everybody else around, including the Americans, were none the wiser. The oil survey hardly cost Standard Oil a nickel, the U.S. taxpayers paid for it."
http://www.reformation.org/rockefeller-investigates-bush.html
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