pain, pain, pain!! 
misskimber
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why do i get pain within 4-5 days of a flush. i am preparing now for flush 3 in as many weeks. my poor bowel system has no time to heal. last night was the worst pain i have ever had in my life! no joke!! today i have been achy! i am only eating apples today and will drink juice tomorrow. then i will flush again. why am i not getting a break? what can i do differently? thank you!- Re: pain, pain, pain!! bluandyelo
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I don't know if this will help, but my advice would be not to eat apples, just juice them or puree them, take lots of Epsom Salts , use castor oil packs and try to rest.
Are you doing the flushes so close together just to alleviate pain?? You liver might need a rest.. The Epsom Salts should reduce pain without the necessity of a flush. If you can wait a while it might help.
Peace- Re: pain, pain, pain!! misskimber
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,032,345I am doing the flush to alleviate the pain. The detox after the second one was a doosy! I was thinking of using Sea Salt /water tonight to see if it would help. As the ES was really hard on my digestive tract. Until that heals I hate to take the ES again. Do you think it would help? Thank you for your response.
- Re: pain, pain, pain!! bluandyelo
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,032,359Gee, I don't know, I am reluctant to give an advice, given what you have said. I have never experienced ES being hard on my digestive tract, except for the rampant runs!! I take it all the time to deal with GB liver pain.
Can you get hold of some castor oil? The packs help, even though you might find it hard to believe!
But it does sound like you need something to relax the ducts....
Have you done any parasite cleansing? Some people have had a release of blockages/spasms etc by taking a shock dose of parasite herbs, but I am not speaking from experience here.
Also! What about a coffee enema?? This would surely help a bit, or even a plain water enema?
Have you got illeo cecal valve pain too?
Peace- Re: pain, pain, pain!! misskimber
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I should say that the "runs" has given me piles! They need to heal! I do have some pain in the illeo cecal valve area. Don't know if it is that. Could be, I guess. Each flush has been effective and produced lots of stones. Each flush producing larger stones than the first. For that I am happy. But the let down of only feeling good for a few days stinks!
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- Re: pain, pain, pain!! Genovia
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This is a reply to # 1,032,359Hey, I was just reading through some of the forums and I saw yours. I will be honest, I am new and haven't tried any of the cleanses yet, but I do know a little bit about natural remedies....though I'm not a professional. My first question is, "have you done any other cleanses prior to the Liver Flush such as a colon cleanse?" if not you are probably experiencing all of the toxins flushing out of your liver and going to other parts of your body,...and you will feel like crap. If your colon isn't clean how is everything going to get out? I suggest that you go to
http://www.drnatura.com
and just read the testimonials and about the products. I have done this cleanse and in my opinion it is the best of its kind. Between God, this cleanse and some herbs that is how I have made it this far. I hope this helps. Genovia- Re: pain, pain, pain!! misskimber
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This is a reply to # 1,033,025I have Dr. Natura cleanse. I am in the process of sending it back. I really have not seen any difference. I would rather try what Humaworms has to offer. Although my daugher is taking there parasite cleanse for kids and has had great results. This is her second bottle and she informed me (in great detail!) of what she saw today.
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- Re: pain, pain, pain!! bluandyelo
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Your body needs time to rebuild your probiotics and balance your electrolytes between flushes. You really do need to space them out every 2-4 weeks. Also if you space them out farther, more sludge will have time to move down and be flushed out next time, so you'll be more productive if you use patience.
BELIEVE me, I understand the pain issues caused by a congested liver and gallbladder. If you go back and read my "R" posts, you will find me referring to "only hurting when i breathe" ... "feeling like I had a basketball stuffed inside my ribcage" ... "rubbing the tip of my breastbone until it was sore"
Things I did to cope naturally with this pain between flushes:
Lemons were probably my best friend back then ... still are today as a matter of fact ... they are liver food.
I kept organic lemons in my desk drawer at work and in my fridge at all times. I'd drink barely hot water with the juice of 1 lemon anytime that I got uncomfortable ... which was pretty much everyday, all day long.
Sometimes I'd drink the almost hot water with raw apple cidar vinegar ... sometimes this was added to my lemon water.
Sometimes I'd drink warm water with a pinch of epsom salts.
When nothing was working, I mixed all 3 together.
As you flush, you will see that the good days become more and the bad days become fewer and farther between. You'll start to see that the last few days before your next scheduled flush, your liver will be telling you IT'S TIME!!!!
- Re: pain, pain, pain!! misskimber
15 years ago
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,032,580Thanks for all the info. I thought I might be doing something wrong. But this must be what I need to go through. I will try some of your suggestions and wait another week or two before my next flush. Hopefully my bowels will get back on track. How much probiotics can I take a day? I do have Dr. Natura's colon detox products. Could I just start taking that?
- Re: pain, pain, pain!! bluandyelo
15 years ago
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,032,640Hi mi SSKI mber,
The colon cleansing products might help. I would be looking for a practitioner who is EXPERT in abdominal massage, yogic abdominal massage would be good. I know this may seem like the last thing to want right now, but if you are experiencing some ICvalve pain as well, it points to a problem with the entire digestive system not just the GB/liver area, and as you continue to cleanse, kill parasites and get better, the right kind of massage can really really help you get over the bumpy patches!!
Another thing, if you have IC valve pain I would recommend you don't do colonic irrigation (it is too harsh on the ICV), but instead have enemas and or colemas, if you can.
Galaxony has a great vid on how to make suppositories too.... if you don't already know about this check out her posts.
Peace
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- Re: pain, pain, pain!! plzchuckle
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Kim, I never got around to trying Dr Natura ... I tried fiber cleansers, they didn't work for me ... I tried oxygen cleansing, it worked as far as cleansing, but did NOTHING for rebuilding my digestive system. I read Dr Christopher's newsletter on colon health and read about his formula and just about immediately found the Ask Barefoot forum here ... MH makes Dr Christopher's formula more like the Dr Christopher than the company that is making his formulas today, so I went with that and have been on it for over a year now. My colon health is better today than ever in my life.
Probiotics are friendly bacteria that one gets from organic fruits and vegetables and grows in the digestive tract if one gives them the opportunity. I've never taken a single probiotic pill and I've gone from not digesting anything I ate to RARELY ever not digesting something I eat.
MH/barefoot had me go on a diet that I finally got over 50% raw fruit by explaining to me that fruit is the easiest food for the body to digest and he's right. I get my energy and my feelgood from fruit. I'm studying raw nutrition presently and have progressed enough in my healing that I've added greens, unsweet fruits and nuts to my diet and do fine as long as I don't allow cheating to overtake me! (Old habits die hard). Here's an example: it's halloween ... work threw us a party .. ice cream, cupcakes, candy (hello, my name is marilyn and I'm a chocoholic)!! Heck yeah, I had some of all of it!!!! At time to leave work tonight, I could not go get in the car and drive home ... my car wasn't in the ladies room!!!!!!!! Foods labeled mucus-forming make me poop mucus shortly after eating them now. My body doesn't want that garbage in there!!!! I'm not sick, no cramping or anything like that ... my body just purges it!!!!!
Let us know how you're doing and what helps you in particular as we all get through this together, ok?
- Re: pain, pain, pain!! bluandyelo
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Google AdvertisementThis is a reply to # 1,032,580I just gave this post an "R" because it speaks of a common subject. The suggestion to drink lemon water, especially hot water is excellent. This helps cleanse the gallbladder and stimulate the colon. I suggest you start doing your flushes two weeks apart and give your body some time to heal and balance between flushes and make sure to use lemon water and either apple cider vinegar or apple juice daily. A small glass of aloe vera juice or slippery Elm gruel may help ease your digestive system between flushes.
You are in a difficult position of trying to cleanse and heal at the same time. Make sure your body is built up so it can heal between cleanses. If your diet is lacking, try getting some green food (also called "Superfood" and have one scoop in apple juice and one scoop in carrot juice. This will give you a lot of good nutrients and both juices are important for liver health. Don't give up, but don't overdo it either.Advertisement
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- Re: pain, pain, pain!! plzchuckle
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- Re: pain, pain, pain!! misskimber
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This is a reply to # 1,033,662Thank you all for your help. I am doing better with the lemon juice, ect. Still feeling sluggish. Could be from too much time on curezone and not enough sleep! Ha!
I plan to flush one more time before Thanksgiving. I will then have my cholesterol checked in Dec. as it has been high for several years. I am excited to see if ridding myself of so many Gallstones will make a difference in my numbers. I will keep in touch over the next few weeks. Thank you again! Mi SSKI mber- Re: pain, pain, pain!! plzchuckle
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,033,826Kim, dealing with pain can be exhausting, but just KNOW that better days are ahead!!
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