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- Re: pic's-- intestinal tape worm? #87980
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This is a reply to # 1,024,585Hello,
Yup, that looks like a segmented worm to me.
I'm new to the forum, I gather that there are a bunch of people who think that you are nuts if you think you have worms. I live in Florida, and the old cracker (Flroida native born) cure for worms was to chew tobacco and swallow the juice. It's a pretty good insecticide, but I bet it was hard on a few other organs.
I can't even imagine having to explain the tape worm thing to an actual MD. Florida has an legal procedure for locking up lunatics which remarkably violate the bill of rights. Basically, all someone has to do is dislike you enough to call the cops and say you are crazy. Then you get stuck in the looney bin until they decide to let you out, when they present you with a rather large bill. I'd rather take my chances on herbs than go through that.
I must have had mine for probably 20 years, I had colonoscopys, hemocrits, the whole nine yards, and nobody saw any evidence of parasites. I lived on the went coast, in an area with excellent medical care, and I had really good insurance. After I did my first purge, and found the 5mm tape worm scolex, I was treated by an alternative medical practioner- an acupuncturist and who literally went icky ooo when I told her what had happened to me. So alternative people aren't necessarily any smarter about this than the regular MD's.
But, unless you've been through it, people really go straight into denial. It is pretty creepy stuff.
Glad you got the guy, as one of my friends said when I told him about it, I'd just wave bye bye, flush him and tell him, "Hope you had a good time in there."
Julie
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- Getting rid of the tough parasites! jessesmom1987
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This is a reply to # 1,027,437Julie,
I'm laughing, because I was just thinking the same thing this morning, as I was doing another coffee enema to make sure I was, again, cleaned out from having just expelled TWO more of the damned things in the last 2 days- not big ones...but definetly tape worms- I say not "big" ones, one was probably 8 inches, the other one was about 12 inches. BUT, that wasn't all, a ball of ascarids too. And the BAD thing was that I was away from home for a couple of days when I expelled the one yesterday, with the ascarids...got home last night, and there was another one this morning.
The thing that I was thinking about this morning too, was that even people who are DOING parasite cleansing, that are only doing it for 30 days and then stopping at that..they might even think I'm crazy when I tell them that I didn't even get the daddy tape worm until I had been on 6 weeks of herbal deworming stuff. I added another wormer product to the herbal I was already taking because I could feel them, and knew I wasn't done. The day after taking the first dose of the wormer I added, (along with still taking the herbal tincture), I didn't know at the time what was going on, but I was having a day of major die off symptoms, bloated stomach, tired, felt like crap. 2 days after that was when I expelled the big one.
I am in no way trying to place doubt on the products that people are taking, including Humaworm, Barefoot's, and Clarkia ...but if I'm one example of just starting to get the tough worms 6-7 weeks into the herbals, and had to add another wormer to what I had been taking in order to do it, ARE people getting to the tough tape worms and ascarids? I don't think so. Had I quit at 30 days, I would never have gotten these 3 out, and all the ascarids that are just now showing up, I'm positive of that. I don't know how many more there may be.
The one other thing I had been intending on starting, and actually hadn't yet when I got the grand daddy tape worm, was the Dr. Hulda Clark protocol follow up for what she herself says are the tough tape worms/ascarids that even herbals and zapping are not going to get.
So, not only am I still taking 2 deworming products (one that also contains homeopathic remedies for specific worms, not just herbals)..I have also been taking the ozonated olive oil, and L-Cysteine that Dr. Clark recommends for the tough worms- for up to 3 weeks, not over---plus I've taken several of the mega doses of the CoQ10 that she also recommends.
There are going to be people who defend the products they are taking, and that 30 days is enough, with in-between herbs...I may just be one of a few that has a tougher case of parasites...but thank God I didn't stop at 30 days expecting that I was done, because the tough ones are just starting to show up now. And, like you said..I don't know how long they've been in there...but thank GOD they are getting OUT!!!
It's tiring battling these things though. Just about the time I get some major worm out, and think THAT one was the problem..I get more. I can NOT imagine what they have been doing to my insides- I've had major liver flukes- big ones, not small ones...tape worms, and ascarids..and who knows what I don't even see that are eggs or microscopic, these are just ones I've actually seen first hand.
And COLON CLEANSING is SO important in all of this. WOW, how horrible it would be to be killing these things and not eliminating them! I would never, ever have thought that I would be glad to be pooping as much as I have since the Alternative Med Dr. started me colon cleansing 2 months ago..and I would never have considered that I would be doing coffee enemas, but the colon cleansing is definetly an important part of all of this. Along with liver flushing. Everything works together. But, if the parasites are putting off ammonia, which is 100% of what they excrete, and bacterias, and the liver is having to try to filter that out, along with being plugged up with liver flukes etc...keeping the colon cleaning out is vitally important for keeping the toxins moving out!
I'm so looking forward to that day when I can finally not feel the sore spots inside of me that I know have been from the parasites chewing into my gut. Anyone that has "leaky gut" that doesn't think it is necessary to do a parasite cleanse...PLEASE think again! Anyone that is doing liver flushes, and don't think it's necessary to do a parasite cleanse, PLEASE also think again. It's ALL interconnected!
I no longer even care if people might consider me a nut case, which I'm sure people do, including medical Dr's...had I continued to be ignorant and let these things go..I have no doubt that my health was being jeoporadized- as awful as I've felt for a long time, not knowing what the problem was, my desire to take part in common, everyday life's events was definetly compromised. NOW I know why..NO WONDER!- Re: Getting rid of the tough parasit... UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,028,579"I'm one example of just starting to get the tough worms 6-7 weeks into the herbals, and had to add another wormer to what I had been taking in order to do it, ARE people getting to the tough tape worms and ascarids? I don't think so. Had I quit at 30 days, I would never have gotten these 3 out, I'm positive of that. And I don't know how many more there may be."
I agree with you. One of the reasons so many herbal products have a reputation for being snake oil is that the doses recommended on the bottles are so low it won't do any good to take that amount. And the manufacturers are apparently afraid to recommmend an effective dose, for fear that some people will have a strong reaction and get sick and report the product as dangerous. Of course, the FDA will ban an herb that makes one person sick, and leave a pharmaceutical drug on the market until it's killed thousands.
Only those who are brave enough to ignore the labels and up the dose until they get results will see results.
Herbs aren't toxic, people are. So...it's also important to start below the recommended amount, because the more toxic you are, the stronger of a reaction you will have to a product that promotes detox.
Start with a low dose and work your way up, until all symptoms are gone. Then do routine maintenence. That's the key.
- Re: Getting rid of the tough parasit... poppycane
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This is a reply to # 1,028,579I totally agree with all you say!
I have not stopped parasite cleansing on a continuous basis since taking my first round of Humaworm.
Although, not taking the three main herbs and spices, I have cycled with Neem, Fenugreek, Fennel, Apple Cider Vinegar, Castor Oil, Oregano, Grapefruit Seed Extract (great when feel nausea)Iodine and more, oh and a zapper!
All of which I beleive made my second round of Humaworm (and also another parasite cleanser taken with it) much easier this time.
I too, am completely dumbfounded at the constant removal of various parasites, Ascaris and various flukes.... seems never ending, but then, reckon I have had them ever since early childhood.
Wishing all future success in your parasite removal.
Best wishes
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This is a reply to # 1,030,240Hi Jessiesmom and others,
I am about done for the time being. After a 3 month round of herbs and hydrogen peroxide six months ago, I just finished about a month of it. I also double the dose of the herbal stuff when I can handle it, and I lower it when I'm reacting badly. I have one formula that works pretty well, but it doesn't contain Wormwood , so I also take extra Wormwood , clove and Black-Walnut . When you really have a big one, there is no doubt that it's going to be pretty miserable to gt rid of it, it's just one of those things, and definily worth killing it off.
It's a tug of war, I want them dead as door nails, but the process makes me pretty sick while they are kicking it, and I also have a business I have to run. I've been on herbs 4 days a week, then just hydgogen peroxide at a faily low dose the other three days. My biggest problem, and I've been unable to find a decent Naturopatic Physician in the area, is that I really experience very painful swelling in my joints when I'm on the herbs. And I mean very painful. I also get the stomach aches, and you definitly know when you kill one off, because of the bloating and the gas. (And the rather sharp pain in the intestines, I think they must squirm around quite a bit while they kick it)
I've come to the conclusion that I'll be doing this the rest of my life, I suspect that I was so infected that it's just going to be smart to de-worm myself every six months or so to just be on the safe side.
Probably the enemas help with that, the hydrogen peroxide is great as a general body detox, it helps everything just by adding oxygen, and it helps all the organs just work better. I'll probably stay on the hydrogen peroxide until we are done with flue season, and it has really helped this time with the joint pain. I know it helps, but it certainly tastes nasty.
I really only got a couple of little ones this time, my big worm kill off was last winter. I had one that was a small tape worm, only about 6mm wide, and what looked like part of a scolex. I also found one that I couldn't identify, it was a round segmented worm. I was also using a heavy colon cleanser, but that also wipes you out because of the constant problem with loose bowels. However, that's better than obstructed bowels! it is certainly motivating to find unmistakable tape worm segments, the segments break off as the worm dies, and you get these things that look like little white stuffed pillows for quite a while before it dies and you get the head.
I appreciate the Dr. clarke site on tough worms, and I'm going to try the olive leaf extract, but I wonder if it isn't doing the same thing as the H202. I'll try it as soon as I feel better from this round of doing in the little suckers. I run a retail Jewelry busines, and I did my first detox in starting in December, last year, this year, No Thanks!
I'm glad you are getting them. I got one bunch of worms the first time that weren't tape worms but were rather large worms in a ball. They weren't really long, like a tape worm, they were reddish. They kind of looked like elongated erasers. Do you have any idea what they were? I definitly identified round worms, and tape worm, these other guys I was just glad to get rid of.
I hope you are starting to feel a little better, it did take me several months to start to feel better after I got rid of the big one. I just gradually felt my health improve, more energy, more ability to do things I enjoy that I had just quit doing because I didn't feel well so much of the time.
Keep at it!
Julie- Re: Getting rid of the tough parasit... jessesmom1987
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This is a reply to # 1,031,746Hi Julie
The ones you'd wondered about that looked like an eraser, most likely were fluke. I've gotten several that I don't know for sure what they are either, but they were like you said, segmented worms- but balls, then like a thread in between. I just got another one this morning, and had several yesterday morning. I got one big one that looked like that when I took the first megadose of Barefoot's wormer. The paper he had sent with the wormer said that Hulda Clark 's recommendation was to use 4 tsps of wormer, wait and hour and use 4 more tsps. A couple of hours after I did that, I got the cramping, and kicking, and rolling stomach. I knew I was killing something in there that was dieing hard. I don't think it was the next day, I think it may have been the day after that even that I expelled it. I'm sure it was some type of tape worm from the way it kicked and rolled and punched me inside, and the cramps I had with it.
I do think the Hulda Clark clean up is working. She says the ozonated oil penetrates their tough skin, and the L-Cysteine helps to clean out all the toxins etc.
It's tiring seeing them almost daily, but it's also astounding at what I now know has been living inside of me, and I'm sure it's been for years and years.
On the blood tests the Alt. Med Dr. did when I first started on this, to rule out anything medically, my cholestrol was elevated and my heart fibrinogen was out of the norm. My liver was so plugged up at that time (with flukes I didn't know I had) that I am just sure that when I have more follow up tests that all of that is also going to be in the norm just from getting rid of parasites. I've also been doing liver flushes. The flukes plug off the bile ducts, and some of the stones I've gotten in the last flushes were 1 to 2 inches, brown, clay, liver stones that they say form when bile ducts are plugged.
They had also done an ultra sound when I first started this, and they said they couldn't see anything "just some fatty liver"...my husband and I are sure that the fatty liver they thought they saw, was flukes.
It amazes me that Dr.'s can't, or won't find this stuff, and it's so common- everyone has parasites- but how many have them turn into serious ailments that the Dr's can then decide they are going to medicate, or operate on? Or people just come away from the Dr's offices like I did, being told there was nothing wrong with them and they could be put on anti-depressants. We think it's 3rd world countries that have the parasite problems...how much healthier, and how much less money would be spent on health issues if everyone just dewormed, including kids?
Glad to hear your story, and I'm glad to hear you feel that you are getting a handle on them. I agree, it's something to keep hammering at for the rest of our lives...now that we know!- Re: Getting rid of the tough parasit... #87980
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This is a reply to # 1,031,886Hi Jessiesmom,
Yeah, I know I was dying, before we started drinking the hydrogen peroxide I was a kind of nasty yellow color, so I probably had all sorts of liver problems. We used this protocol
http://healingtools.tripod.com/H2O2.html.
I didn't even start on the herbs for parasites until I'd been doing 25 drops of H202 three times a day for three months.
When I did the hydrogen peroxide, I passed all sorts of stuff, but I wasn't looking for parasites, (I was also on grapefruit seed extract) but I have a feeling I did in quite a few without being aware of it. You get quite ill with H202, because it's a general body purge, and your body gets rid of toxic stuff and you get rashes, boils and diarreah pretty frequently.
But I had gotten a lot healthier. I do remember looking at Vaxa, and didn't use it because they wouldn't disclose the ingredients. So I used Purify though the Life Tree because they actually have a custoner service line who will talk to you about how to use the products. What is hard is with a big worm you have to use a colon clease so you expell the worm parts (I hadn't thought about enemas) that doen't interact badly with the worm cure you are currently taking. So I switched around on products a lot, I'm glad I got rid of the critter.
Today I'm just plain tired, from the last month of stuff, but I'm glad I did the mop up. I'm going to give myself a rest, and do it again in January. I hadn't considered really having flukes, I'll have to look into that.
I will go check out the liver fluke sites, and plan my next attack.
Good for you! Go girl, you will feel better soon. I am glad to find this forum, one of the things I've found the most amusing it that I can get rid of a boring person in a real hurry by telling them about the tape worm saga. This stuff is so scary to people, and it's so taboo in our culture to discuss excerment that I suspect a whole lot of people are dying of paracitic infections with no medical help or misguided medical help.
I know I've recieved no help from doctors from this stuff.
I've been trying to find my way around this forum, it's pretty confusing, but it's been helpful
Thanks for the note, nave a good day, and kill a few critters.
Julie
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