fuel, ions and better performance! 100 MPG

Date:   1/18/2019 3:02:44 AM ( 5 y ago)

Bob Teeter
Yesterday at 5:10 PM

News item. Because of the high cost of changing to diesel or electric hybrid cars, the auto industry wants something new, on-demand hydrogen units. Of course, we already have this. The key here is that adding hydrogen to gasoline increases octane from 87 to 107. Hydrogen is a catalyst used in some processes in refineries, gasoline for one. It's called hydro-cracking. But the new part is, with higher octane. The same size engine can use a higher compression with turbo-charging, meaning much more air gets into the cylinders. That raises the MPG by as much as 20%. ...We may have been wrong to think that HHO is only more burning power. It may be better to input the only hydrogen with no oxygen, not sure.

==ArvinMeritor has been experimenting with the plasma fuel reformer where they create a continuous spark (plasma) in a chamber filled with gasoline vapor and air whereby the fuel dissociates to create a hydrogen-rich gas of 20% hydrogen, 20% carbon monoxide, CO, and the rest nitrogen. This gas, when used in the combustion process, enables a dramatically leaner engine, increasing fuel efficiency and dropping NOx emissions. What's neat is that the hydrogen is created on demand and the gas raises the octane rating of the fuel about 20 points, your 87 octane pump gas just became 107 octanes! That means you can raise compression, use a turbo and get great performance from a much smaller engine. Hydrogen on demand means you don't need hydrogen filling stations either.==

Félix Audet
Admin · November 29, 2018

In this design, plates are placed very far apart, and a high voltage, provided by an automotive ignition coil is fed through a dielectric quartz plate. A horizontal PVC tube provides a large surface area for water evaporation, with the cell under vacuum from the engine. The exact allowable distance between the plates to get some current through will have to be determined by experimentation.

The benefit of this design is that it can work with any type of water, and it does not have to be drinkable water. To be 100% sure the electrodes will remain corrosion free, a dielectric layer could be placed on the negative electrode as well, but the drawback of this is that current will be less.. Strong Neo magnets could be placed on top of the cell to improve ionization and gas quality.
The positive electrode should be covered with a rubber insulator to avoid voltage leakage. If a bolted flange is used on the PVC pipe, nylon bolts should be used, or small SS bolts with an insulating sleeve, for the same reasons.

If the current is enough and electrode spacing is right, the whole volume of water should be ionized and free ions should get vacuumed by the engine. These ions are stable only for a brief period and they can't be stored in a pressurized bottle. They must be produced on demand.
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Comments

Bob Teeter... This looks like the setup with AC current that produces a different gas than HHO. It's supposed to work much better than HHO. The large separation is necessary.

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Félix Audet I suggest you listen very carefully to what he says in the vid, he's using a circulating electrolyte low voltage high current cell, possibly at resonance, and a high voltage flyback cell, to create ionisation. I've never seen anyone use this method and I've never seen anyone with a system that makes so much gas on demand. The system is pressurised though and this is not recommanded unless you're very sure of the gas you're producing, as mentionned in the Suratt - Gourley patent, H4O2 is not explosive when compressed, as long as it it pure, it can be compressed to several thousand PSI.. Pressure increase has a HUGE impact on gas production. it can double, triple or quadruple the amount of gas for a given applied power. There are many combinations of gases possible during electrolysis, some are explosive upon compression some are not, His system could be surmised as something like this:
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Bob Teeter
January 14 at 8:36 PM

If you want 100 MPG, as the title here, you'll never get that with HHO. The only success is Meyer and Puharich who had to make a completely different system and engine type. Meyer used a computer. Puharich used frequency to split water. But the engine needs to be arranged to use an implosion instead of explosion. They used only HHO, not gasoline with an HHO unit.
You want 100 MPG, that can be done with the various fuel vaporizing inventions, like the Pogue carburetor that got 200 MPG. There's even been new car designs using vaporizing.

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Johnathan Tu Ok so..

My question is..

If say hypothetically, i lean my fuel out and idle sits at 60% capacity before acceleration kicks in and stalls motor, I'd be thinking i would turn it upto 65% to prevent stall and then introduce hho at a rate of 35% to balance losses.

I also had an ideal to create a chamber to regulate pressure of hho..

Using 2 one way valves, two electronic valves and an electronic pressure sensor... Plus electronic pressure regulator.. it could be an awesome "lpg type setup"..

Here's how it would operate..

Ok. Hho cylinder.. allows hho to be created and once it hits a preset pressure, it stops production.

On acceleration.. hho is released at a set regulated pressure.. or allowed to flow into intake and then fed into engine.. or piggybacked into cylinders via intake reducers with one way valves to only allow hho inwards..

Hho is only produced on idle.. and when regulated cylinder hits below a cetain pressure.. simply to maintain regulated flow.

So Cylinder regulates pressure and output flow.

This can also be switched off so system can be switched on during say highway drives


 

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