** The government will open the guilt spigot and make those who have personal retirement savings feel if they are being greedy, and those who don't have savings should direct their anger not just at the rich, but anyone who has put any money away. HUH? **

Date:   12/24/2014 12:45:42 PM ( 10 y ago)

Government Sets Its Sights on Private Retirement Accounts: “Giant Effort to Redistribute the Wealth of America’s Older Citizens”
Mac Slavo

November 20th, 2012

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A new effort by the Obama administration, Congress, the Treasury Department and labor unions aims to fundamentally alter how Americans plan and save for retirement.

Warnings have been popping up over the last several years about the possibility of re-appropriating the $3.5 Trillion sitting in private retirement and spreading those funds around to Americans who are deemed less fortunate.

This couldn't possibly happen in America, right? At one time, most Americans also believed health care mandates that force Americans at the barrel of a gun to surrender portions of their earnings into a universal system for all would never happen. Well, it did.

** Or have you noticed yet?

And now, those who would control and regulate every aspect of our lives are making a new push; one whose efforts will ultimately end in the seizure and redistribution the personal retirement savings of every American who has ever put money into a 401(k) or IRA.

This is no longer in the realm of conspiracy, but rather, public record.

A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration’s effort to nationalize the nation’s pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRA’s and 401k plans, NSC is warning.

The hearing, held in the Labor Department’s main auditorium, was monitored by NSC staff and featured a line up of left-wing activists including one representative of the AFL-CIO who advocated for more government regulation over private retirement accounts and even the establishment of government-sponsored annuities that would take the place of 401k plans.

** WOW can you believe a " Labor " Union who is suppose to protect the worker is out to take over all retirement plans?

“This hearing was set up to explore why Americans are not saving as much for their retirement as they could,” explains National Seniors Council National Director Robert Crone, “However, it is clear that this is the first step towards a government takeover. It feels just like the beginning of the debate over health care and we all know how that ended up.”

** Did anyone stop to realize that one of the main reasons for not saving as much as they could is because of the Fed Tax Burden?

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A representative of the liberal Pension Rights Center, Rebecca Davis, testified that the government needs to get involved because 401k plans and IRAs are unfair to poor people. She demanded the Obama administration set up a “government-sponsored program administered by the PBGC (the government's’ Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation).”


** Now people who do not work or actually hold a job will get or be eligible for a retirement based upon nothing but stealing from those who have been paying taxes?

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Such “reforms” would effectively end private retirement accounts in America, Crone warns.

“These people want the government to require that ultimately all Americans buy these government annuities instead of saving or investing on their own. The Government could then take these trillions of dollars and redistribute it through this new national retirement system.”

** Does this not follow the present failed Fed Gov't debt driven budget plans which have taken in almost every available source of the working citizens money and efforts for the past fifty years?

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“This effort ultimately is designed to grab the retirement nest eggs of America’s senior citizens.
This new government annuity scheme, even if it is at first optional, will turn into a giant effort to redistribute the wealth of America’s older citizens,” explains Crone.

“This scheme mirrors what I expect the President will try to do with Social Security. He wants to turn that program into a welfare program, too.”

** Well SS has been solvent and pays its way - until the Politicians started to get hold of it to spend on other stuff... Have you bothered to notice how well that has been failing??

Via: National Seniors Council

With the reelection of President Obama, a majority Democrat Senate and powerful organization and lobbying from labor unions, we can fully expect legislation that will shift private accounts into the public coffers to become reality in the not too distant future.

In fact, the push to mold the perceptions surrounding this issue is already on, as highlighted in a recent Market Watch article which claims to explain the 10 Things 401(k) Plans Won’t Tell You.

Did you know, for example, that 401(k) plans aren't supposed to provide you with full retirement benefits, and that they were originally intended to be “mere supplements” to other plans, and that they only “benefit the rich?”
Not only that, but according to the article, no one can really tell you how much money you’re going to need; all of those math formulas and expert calculations were all wrong. Additionally, there are so many hidden fees that you’re losing hundreds of thousands of dollars to Wall Street (most of us knew that one).

And all this time, the millions of Americans who contributed their money to these accounts over the last three decades were under the impression that their accounts would one day grow into a retirement nest egg from which retirees could spend their days in comfort and relaxation.

** HA,HA that was a good one.. Big Lie!

Nope.
We had it all wrong. Private retirement accounts were never actually designed to ensure that you could retire! Only a government managed retirement plan can ensure that you will have the money you need when you turn 59 1/2. Only they will be able to ensure you don’t pay excessive, hidden fees (even though they could have created legislation to require firms to overtly disclose this information int he first place). And, only the government can provide 100% full retirement coverage, not just supplemental funds. Oh, and they also know WHEN you should retire, currently 65 years of age.

** GEE, 2015 at 73 I am still working?

It’s on folks. They are going to hit Americans from all angles on this one.

First, the political hearings that will claim only the rich are benefiting from private retirement accounts.

Then they'll point out how stock market crashes and volatility put your money at risk. In fact, if we do have another market crash, look for this to be a key reverberation.

Then they put the spin machine into action, so that you think you're getting unbiased analysis and truth.

** Have you noticed that all the "Spin machines ' only spin one way? They are support the talking heads of the Politicians {Big Money}...
You did know that the Prez and most all the Congress are millionaires??

Then they open the guilt spigot and make those who have personal retirement savings wonder if they are being greedy, and those who don't have savings will direct their anger not just at the rich, but anyone who has put any money away.

Finally, they will pass a bill, which we have to pass first in order to know what’s in it, and it’ll be a done deal.

The government of this country is coming for everything they can get their hands on.

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** this is the plan to get control of any and all money from any {except for the politicians and Big Money groups} - which only leaves the actual working tax paying citizens - HUH!

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