11.) "The new community"! Without dialogue there is no genuine community.

Date:   10/11/2014 6:11:43 AM ( 10 y ago)

March 13, 2023 - Continuing with "The Fundamental Essentials" -

In order for anyone to have all the benefits of: "The Four Agreements" (mentioned in: "The Fundamental Essentials" below) they must "adopt" each of these four agreements. Having read: "People of The Lie" this blog-writer doesn't know whether or not all people are individually able to make this adoption - beginning with the first agreement: to be impeccable with your word, to always use your word in the direction of truth and love. He also does not know whether any particular individual can gain this ability to adopt these agreements. Furthermore - without these agreements in place he doesn't know whether genuine dialogue is actually possible. All he knows in this regards is that without dialogue the door to psychopathy is left open!

Therefore - in light of the above the first question he needs to ask any individual who may be wanting to connect with him is: Are you willing and able to adopt the First Agreement[6] and to do your best to keep that agreement in relating with me? .........
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August 1, 2020 - Krishnamurti -

"I wonder ... what that word 'communication' means.
To communicate implies not only verbally, but also a listening in which there is a sharing,
a thinking together,
not accepting something that you or I say,
but sharing together, thinking together, creating together
- all that is involved in that word 'communicate'.

And in that word is implied also the art of listening.
The art of listening demands a quality of attention,
in which there is real listening ..."[5]
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Comment:

This Blog-writer agrees with the above quote (that he transcribed from the YouTube transcript of this conversation). By "wondering" he thinks it is equivalent to contemplation. In fact - there is a recognized dyad for this: "Tell me what communication is." The receiver of this instruction can then focus on the truth of communication and contemplate with that intention and then report whatever may arise in their awareness to their dyad partner.
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January 27, 2020 - The "Integral Human Design" system underscores dialogue! -

Dialogue For Your Personal Growth -

"... when you want to really grow and evolve, any information on your design is just a starting point. Information that you learn on your own through getting involved with any self-help program is a good preparation for finding your true orientation in life. The key step then is embodiment, which means to fully realize the growth step. And the key process to support your embodiment is dialogue. ...

... dialogue is really the core approach to your personal development. Why? Because as a human being you are hardwired for connection, your brain is designed to operate in fruitful interaction with other human beings. That's how you really have the best chance to fully open up, and to find your way into living at your maximum potential in this lifetime.*
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Comment:

Re: "dialogue ... the core approach to your personal development" - dialogue is emphasized by this Blog-writer and mentor. It is the most powerful antidote to the monologue-based orientation of virtually all the world systems that this writer has identified as "G-MEM - C-MEM." It's been said before and it's worth repeating here: "Without Dialogue the 'Door to Psychopathy' is left open" and "Dialogue Is The New Community"!

Posted at: "Introductions To Your Human Design"[4]*
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February 11, 2019 - The Fundamental Essentials -

The fundamental essentials or this Cheeta vision to come all the way "down to earth" are presently two-fold. Stating these as "two-fold" indicates that they not only "fit" together even more so they energetically "loop" together. The "dynamic duo" is (drum roll): Communication and Truth of Self!

The "Fundamental Essentials" of Communication include adopting "The Four Agreements" When we are "impeccable" with our "word" (the First Agreement) then our word is our bond. Our yea is yea and our no is no. Our impeccability attracts trust as the basis for all our relations. There is much more to "the First Agreement" and therefor I highly recommend getting a copy of "The Four Agreements" and begin reading it at your earliest convenience.

Dyads are an excellent form for communicating with impeccability. The dyads are a great support in this way through contemplation on the truth of self. In fact this author advocates the original dyad that is first used for participants in their initial Enlightenment Intensive: "Tell me who you are." To be impeccable with your word requires that you know your truth of self and expressing that truth allows you to be impeccable with your word. See the "loop" here? .........
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October 11, 2014 -

"...Some notion of the significance of such a Dialogue can be found in reports of hunter-gather bands of about this size, who, when they met to talk together, had no apparent agenda nor any predetermined purpose. Nevertheless, such gatherings seemed to provide and reinforce a kind of cohesive bond or fellowship that allowed its participants to know what was required of them without the need for instruction or much further verbal interchange. In other words, what might be called a coherent culture of shared meaning emerged within the group. It is possible that this coherence existed in the past for human communities before technology began to mediate our experience of the living world."[1]

Professor Dennis Klocek has said "Dialogue is the new community". The above quoted paragraph gives some indication of that. Communication has been identified as the basis for community and well illustrated in "The Different Drum" by Scott Peck. Bohm's "On Dialogue" penetrates the truth of this to a degree that I find greater validation for my own convictions of the essential requirement that a "search for truth" be included within any communication that may have any impact on our lives whatsoever.

CHEETA's "cultural healing" originally was stated as "community healing" (and now rephrased as "Cultivate Healing Environments" ). In any case it all comes down to healing communication which dialogue can have the potential for! (Updated 2-11-19)
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June 25, 2017 -

Listening is largely what dialogue is all about.[2]
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June 13, 2018 - The Superior Life!

Underscored my convictions on dialogue as the superior form of communication and therefore if "communication is life" then dialogue is the superior life!

Also appreciating the gift of understanding and inspired to search the Gene Keys in this regards.
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March 29, 2018 - Re: "no apparent agenda nor any predetermined purpose" -
mentioned in "reports of hunter-gather bands" above here at the: October 11, 2014 entry -

"... That which is devoid of content is the equivalent of Innocence."

Therefore I conclude that this "equivalent of innocence" is a required quality for true dialogue. And in this moment of writing this it comes to me that anyone serving the function of a mediator needs to begin with encouraging this quality within the parties whom the mediator works with - inviting the participants into accessing this quality within them as their
preparation for true dialogue. Otherwise "the door to psychopathy is left open."

Also Re: "the essential requirement that a "search for truth'" is a quality that might be considered as "healthy skepticism" as that supports the inquiring nature of dialogue. This is the spirit of "the Fifth Agreement" and is included in all my references to "the Four Agreements."
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Notes:

[1] http://www.david-bohm.net/dialogue/dialogue_proposal.html

[2] http://drsircus.com/spiritual-psychology/sanctuary-house-of-listening/?inf_contact_key=0d43b3dec79a669492312d5fda69826a54a945a7b8ea130a80219ac0d2892521

[3] http://www.lifestar.com/file_html/philosophy.html

[4] https://www.curezone.org/blogs/fm.asp?i=2295321

[5] "J. Krishnamurti - San Diego 1974 - Conversation 3 - What is communication with others?":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmDUDo_YFoU&list=PL1n30s-LKus7XDJA0eXbd5n3f9qDcQOWP&index=4&t=0s

[6] "In order to incorporate the agreements into your life, you need firstly to understand them. Let’s start at the beginning with the First Agreement. What is the First Agreement? 'Be impeccable with your word.' The first agreement is the most important of the lot, according to don Miguel Ruiz, however, also the most difficult to adhere to. To understand its meaning, it is important to know that the word 'impeccable' stems from Latin, meaning 'without sin'. Reading it in this context, Ruiz does not mean everything you say must be perfect or flawless. Put simply, it means that you should never use your word against yourself or other people. 'Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.' — don Miguel Ruiz":
Read more at: https://www.blinkist.com/magazine/posts/what-is-the-first-agreement
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