Hi everyone This is LONGGGGG overdue..but I really felt it was time to give back by sharing my testimony on here for those who may be suffering and looking for answers. I have had all the classic issues which contributed to a full body/health breakdown in 2016. Issues were: - very toxic and abusive childhood (fear, anxiety, chronic stress as a very young child which just got worse and worse) - then started eating junk food very regularly, smoking and very excessive drinking in my early 20s - used to think I was getting away with everything because I never gained any weight and ...
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Has anyone here had chronic UTIs and continued liver/gallbladder flushes safely? I’d been doing monthly liver flushes for 13 months and was finally starting to feel better when I developed a stubborn klebsiella UTI. Most of the advice in a popular FB flush group advises to stop flushing if you have a UTI. I did but now my liver and gallbladder are in pain again. I’ve tried smaller measures but feel I really need the effect of a full flush. I just saw a post from someone that says his kidney pain resolved after continuing with flushes. Hoping someone in my shoes can chime in here.   [End]
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The original story The original story: https://www.facebook.com/groups/gallstone/permalink/10161847920099469   [End]
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Thanks for the post. May I ask how long you were on the Urso before you experienced benefits? It’s definitely a great substance with incredible benefits.   [End]
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After 7 years of pain I tried all the natural remedies of apple cider, liver flush remedies with no help. I’ve been to the emergency room 3 times with shortness of breath and infection, my doctor told me to remove my gallbladder but I refused 3 times. I lived 7 years with pain and tightness on my right rib and had inflammation my whole body to the point i even developed a fatty liver. But I still insisted to my doctor that I don’t wanna remove my gallbladder. So I forced the doctor to write for me a prescription of ursodiol (ursofalk) to try to see if we can’t win the fi ...
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My Gallstone Journey: A Testimony of Healing by David Shalom Egemole After giving birth through a C-section in February last year, I began experiencing severe pain, and it was later discovered that I had multiple small gallstones. Over time, they increased in size. I consulted with several doctors and specialists, and most advised me to remove my gallbladder. However, I wasn’t ready to undergo surgery. Instead, I managed the pain using hot water therapy whenever I had an attack. By September, the pain had worsened significantly, and I almost gave in to surgery. However, I me ...
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These messages were posted into the ”Gallstones & Gallbladder Attack Cures and Natural Remedies Research Group” on facebook. Alexandra Jun 12 2022 · · I have done my 7th flush tonight (Hulda Clarke protocol) Had a couple of mild attacks after a 2 months pause and decided to do it. I have adjusted the protocol and find it way more friendly to carry out. I mix epsoms with 70% apple juice 30% water, and mix oil and grapefruit juice really well in a glass jar with lid and drink it with closed nose fast. Picture in comments Alexandra Sept 15 2022 THIS ... [Image Embedded Here]
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The following few lines are the most important information that you were suppose to get from your doctor the very same day you were diagnosed! If, just in case, you have not gotten any similar info from your doctor, and instead you got a prescription, seriously consider changing your doctor!! Seriously consider that your doctor is uninformed and what he says and does may be dangerous for your overall health and may cause further injury! People get Acne symptoms on their skin because they are hypersensitive to something. Hypersensitivity does not always means an allergy. ...
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https://www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/default.asp   [End]
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Thanks for sharing!   [End]
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I’ve noticed that before big pharma, Beer was the medicine of choice for virtually every ailment and used daily by almost all working men of the past (In the 1820s, Americans drank seven gallons of alcohol per person annually. It’s 2.5 today) rates that would make people think you’re an alcoholic by today’s standards, yet they are the same men who were more physically active, healthier, shockingly high testosterone despite modern views that phytoestrogen in hops causes lower T levels, lived into their 90s, and pointed to by most now as the ideal we want to return to. Responsible Alcohol us ...
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I’m happy to report I still have my gallbladder, and have been wanting to get back to doing liver flushes, being spring cleanse season and all. However, I tried doing one the other weekend, and had one of the worst migraines ever. If you think that ’having a headache is a copout’ please understand that a migraine is more than just a headache. It includes other symptoms such as nausea. So, like, I even re-tried drinking the first glass of epsom salts because I threw up, but it just made me so nauseous, that I immediately threw up again. I felt like dying. I didn’t quite stick to just vegg ...
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You’re welcome. If only we could go back 4 years! Telman   [End]
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Four years (4 yr.) later, I would like to thank you for your most helpful reply. - Hempseed.   [End]
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Hi. I can imagine some of the challenges you have encountered. So sorry to hear of your difficulties. I sincerely hope this short message is of benefit to you. Only recently was I referred to curezone.org. I have found the web site to have several issues (sign up, email validation, server busy, etc). As such, I have not been able to peruse the content here. Being the case, I must suggest some alternative health forums in addition to what you may find here. Please go to earthclinic dot com Click on Ailments (top menu) Click on Acne My suggestion is to start reading the cure ...
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Hi Are you saying that most people have bile deficiency, or that it is the most common reason? Since that post 17 years ago, I have had a thorough examination at a UCLH. The result was that the enterohepatic cycle is interrupted due to ileal pooling. This must indeed result in bile of poor quality. Thank you for your interest. Regards Telman   [End]
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Hi everyone, I am in desperate need of some guidance or reassurance. My backstory: I (24F) have had severe acne since I was 16. When I say severe I mean I have had around 30 active pimples on my face every day and my face generally has a redness to it around my mouth and nose that looks inflamed and unhealthy. Generally these pimples are cystic nodules or fugal little bumps, or whiteheads. When I was a baby, I was prescribed 4 rounds of antibiotics to treat strep throat, which I believe completely destroyed my microbiome before it even had a chance to properly establish itself. Age ...
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While some users have reported positive experiences with   [End]
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Maintaining adequate hydration is crucial for kidney health. Aim to drink around eight glasses of water per day, or more if you engage in strenuous activity or live in a hot climate. Water helps the kidneys flush out waste products and maintain the balance of electrolytes in the body. A healthy diet plays a significant role in supporting kidney function. Consume plenty of fruits, vegetables like   [End]
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Must take medicine but consult your doctor first.   [End]
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I would really like to know the name I have searched for three years and have not found an answer and it’s absolutely awful to live with! Myself my two daughters and my husband are all dealing with this and it’s awful and no diagnosis no results from stool no lasting results from praziquantel, ivermectin, or any of the numerous parasite meds online… we’ve tried so many I’ve flushed routinely but it’s to the point it feels like my intestinal tract has given up and doesn’t even contract anymore instead when I try to go it feels as if it’s going to come out near my belly button. Oh and my cer ...
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Thank you for your reply! My eye cleared, and now I am on to my next flush. Will be interested to see if it returns. Hopefully not!   [End]
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Hi I’ve not come across styes post liverflush bur there are many stories of different types of reaction at certain stages of the liverflush usually around flush 9 to 12. My own experience was hives on the chest. Is there a connection to liverflushing and stye? Because it lasted for several weeks, it may be a chalazion rather than a stye. Regards Telman   [End]
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My left eye swelled beginning the 3rd day after my 5th liver flush. It eventually turned into a massive stye and eye infection and cleared. Three weeks later, I did my 6th liver flush and am experiencing the same symptom. Either the original eye infection has returned, or this is connected to the liver flushes. I am following the basic liver flush protocol, colonics before and after flushing. The only difference with these flushes is that I began using castor oil packs the day of the flush. With both flushes, there was an abundance of flukes - especially on the 6th flush. The coral- ...
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ES is shorthand for Epsom salts also known as magnesium sulphate   [End]
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What is ES in this context?   [End]
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Excellent, just perfect. Thank you. I may wish to quote you some day, but I don’t know who to credit.   [End]
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If you feel unsure of any aspect of a purge, then it is right for you to avoid it. One of the best flushes I ever had was Dr. Sutter’s. No magnesium of any kind added to his method. However, my second-best did include Mg Sulfate, which I just hate, but it worked wonderfully. As Dr Sutter says, ”mix and match” (ie, invent your own flush based on common sense and previous experiences). Figure things out for yourself after much reading and maybe some consultation with others, such as Telman, for example. However, Mg or no Mg, I keep that little bottle of Mg Sulfate on hand for an ...
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There are a number of protocols to achieve a liver flush. The original flush involved only lemon juice and olive oil. The Hulda Clarke method adds the use of Magnesium Sulphate, but there are several other well-tried protocols, some of which advocate the use of magnesium citrate. For example, the Dave Frahm protocol. The magnesium will relax the smooth muscle. One advantage of magnesium sulphate is that in sufficient concentration, 25mg/100ml on an empty stomach will on its own contract the gallbladder by an average of 30%. This is why it has a good reputation as a cure for gallbladd ...
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Telman, Thanks for the detailed math, that helped me understand your previous comment. I’ll be better prepared for my next flush. Really I’m not determined to count stones, I just want to alleviate my rib/back pain while also reaping the benefits of cleaning my liver and improving my digestion. I’ve eliminated a lot of possible causes of the pain with tests (xray, MRI, and bloodwork), so I suppose I’m hoping that I’ll be able to see some tangible evidence of what could be causing this pain, which is why I was hoping for stones. People around here talk about their stone removal with s ...
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Hi Hempseed, I honestly don’t know, does anyone know what the sulfur from the epsom salts does in a liver flush? I would rather have done the flush exactly as instructed, but I read a few accounts of people going to the hospital for heart palpitations. Since I already have some electrolyte issues, I opted for Magnesium Citrate. Not sure if this is any safer, but I am familiar with taking that supplement daily, so I felt like it was a more cautious approach for my first flush.   [End]
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I can’t see why Mg Citrate would function the same as that good old liver flush medicine Mg Sulfate (epsom salt). It is the whole substance which does the job; the sulfur is just as important, not merely the Mg component. I am willing to stand corrected.   [End]
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1 teaspoon of magnesium sulphate powder weighs 4.4g and yields 10% or 440mg 1 tablespoon = 3 x 440 (1320mg) 4 tablespoons = 4 x 1320 (5280mg) I have weighed this accurate today and the main variable is that magnesium sulphate can absorb water and there is a 10% error. 1 teaspoon of magnesium citrate powder is stated as weighing 3g and yields 12 to 15 % or 360 - 450 mg 1 Tablespoon = 3 x 360 (1080mg) to 3 x 450 (1350mg) 4 Tablespoons = 4 x 1080 (4320mg) to (5400mg) I would stick with 4 tablespoons of Magnesium Citrate. The aim of the liver flush is to expel bile so that the li ...
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Hi Telman, thank you for responding. Please tell me if this tracks with you- the amount of magnesium per teaspoon in magnesium sulfate is 495mg (according to the package that I have). In 4 tablespoons, that would be 5940mg total. I only took 4000mg of magnesium total (as magnesium citrate) when I did the cleanse. Should I shoot for the equivalent in milligrams of magnesium (from mag cit) as milligrams of magnesium (from mag sul) to have the same effect as with magnesium sulfate? I don’t think a volume equivalent would be at all accurate as one is crystalline and the other is powder ...
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The amount of magnesium in magnesium citrate is about 12% or 1/8th For Magnesium sulphate, it’s 10% or 1/10th Consequently, it’s roughly the same, taking into account the fact that people have a different threshold. You have started an important process, and I wish you better health. Well done   [End]
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Hello Friends, I’ve been reading on this forum since 2012, but this is my first post. Often I feel more at home here than out in the world. Thank you for that. Here’s what’s going on: Currently in the middle of my first flush and feeling pretty rough/green around the gills. I did Andreas Moritz style, except with Mag Cit (because I did a test with epsom salts, it made my head/heart feel fluttery). Prepped for 9 days with apple juice, stone breaker, dietary changes, coffee enemas; and water enemas the day before blast off/yesterday. I was pretty nervous about getting heart palpitations ...
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I believe I’ve kept the forum up to date with most developments in relation to my digestive issues. When I was referred to a consultant at a top London teaching hospital several years ago, I became his pet guinea pig. He carried out several very extensive test, including an intestinal MRI and we both learn’t that I had an asynchronous peristalsis in my bowel causing CIPO with secondary cholelithiasis, and also a spontaneous lateral ventral hernia. Leading on from that, my name was put forward to a study on connective tissue disorders at the same hospital, and I am currently being studied b ...
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Can you keep us informed of your new info? Thanks. - Ms. Hempseed.   [End]
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Read it An interesting volume from 1965 which contains sage advice. Some it has been improved upon since as our understanding has increased. I am currently within a genetics trail within the UK and they are unearthing some great information. Thanks Telman   [End]
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Telman, your advice is good. People need to read what you have to say. Having gallstones is not the end of the world and we still need to try and have a normal life. Now, you say that your bile continues to precipitate, thereby causing chronic stone formation. Try reading Adelle Davis’ book Let’s Get Well, the chapter on gallbladder problems. You may find some helpful info there.   [End]
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Your slide show left me breathless. A few of your discharges are familiar to me, but most are not. Congrats. What else can anyone say!   [End]
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Well done.Hugs all round.   [End]
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I am happy to report that my last flush was successful. I did eat only veggies, and a very small amount of rice. I didn’t get a headache until about 9:30 pm, and even then, it wasn’t a migraine, so pushed through. It wasn’t easy, though. It was the most difficulty I’ve ever had in getting the olive oil drink down (no i did not use cheap oil) I think it’s because of how toxid my body was/is. I had to use a straw, because otherwise I got too nauseous. I even just left the last swig in the jar because I really was afraid I would throw up and ruin everything, if I took any more. So I just laye ...
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Hi Telman, First of all, I would like to thank you for making an educated attempt to actually *answer my question*. I’ve had this thread active for over a freaking year, and the advice has been mostly impertinent, and here I am, still suffering from this issue. You’re likely one of the most helpful people in this whole place. I’d not heard of gastric dumping before. I read a bit about it, and it does sound like there’s a possibilty some of that is at play. I did have a diagnosis of gastritis in the past, so I wouldn’t be too surprised if I have this, tbh. So, I’m going to do the flush o ...
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Maybe someone will have something helpful for me this time? Hmmmm I can only make suggestions and wonder if you are dumping? Gastric dumping can cause a diabetic response with drops in sugar levels, low blood pressure, headaches and vomiting. It is caused by the stomach emptying too quickly. It has two phases, early dumping 30 minutes after eating and late about 2 to 3 hours later. Although it is normally associated with gastric surgery, it can just happen. Have a good holiday, regards Telman   [End]
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Unfortunately, I still have not been able to have a successful liver flush since my last post. Maybe someone will have something helpful for me this time? That day, I had to not drink the potion, becuase I had the migraine again, and right when I was supposed to drink my second epsom salt drink, I threw up stomach acid because the migraine was so bad. So I thought, I cannot do this, bc I cannot keep anything down. A few weeks later, I tried again. This time, did the flush but it was unsuccessful -- no stones. I presume that the reason is that I cheated a bit on the diet. I included some p ...
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Looking at this article, I miss the time when I didn’t wear a mask.   [End]
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Did it work?   [End]
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If you use the iTera device which is a Terahertz frequency wand compatible with the body it will stop the stones from forming and change the solubility of the bile to thin and runny. I did so many liver flushes I lost count. The bloody stones kept coming back. This device saved my life. It only costs $400 and is the future of healing. It also repaired my intestines and is 20 times more powerful that acupuncture.   [End]
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My question is...what is the reason these stones form in the first place? You have done so well to keep flushing them, and yet they continue to form... If you only tolerate rice and rinsed beef, perhaps you might find the experience of Grant Genereaux interesting and insightful: https://ggenereux.blog/my-ebooks/ Do you take any supplements containing vitamin A or beta carotene? A supplement you might be interested in researching is lactoferrin: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1506633/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31626262/ I hope you are able to get the medical c ...
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Hello there! I have completed two modified liver flushes, and nothing abnormal ”came out.” How common is this? And is it worth trying again ”properly?” MY REGULAR DIET and DETOX REGIME: I am in my early thirties, and have eaten a relatively ”healthy” diet (emphasis on whole grains and legumes) for most of my life. I take psyllium, activated charcoal, and diatomaceous earth every day in the morning and evening. REASON FOR FLUSHING: I have CFS/ME and POTS, so I’m trying almost anything people say can help improve energy levels. HOW I MODIFIED THE FLUSHES: Flush #1 (Ju ...
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drink a lot of banaba leaves. or else you will really need an operation   [End]
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OH MY THIS IS SATISFYING TO FLUSH OUT OF THE BODY. SPAM REMOVED   [End]
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After several successful flushes, I was about to do my 7th, when I was again derailed by a migraine. I was pretty stubborn this time, and tried not to let it stop me, but then exactly at 8:00 pm, right when I was supposed to drink the 2nd epsom salt dose, I puked up stomach acid because of the migraine. That made me finally decide to give up. I thought about going to the doctor to get tested for diabetes, but then I decided to test myself. I have a PhD in biology, anyway. Long story short, I still haven’t succeeded with the glucose meter, but I get closer every time. I suspect I wors ...
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THE story is told of Leo Tolstoy, the great Russian novelist, that he was walking in a forest one day when he came upon a clearing and saw a lizard sitting upon a rock sunning itself. Tolstoy began speaking to the lizard, ”Your heart is beating.” he said. ”The sun is shining; you are happy.” And after a pause, he added, ”But I am not.” Why are lizards happy and man is not? Why is the whole creation in a celebration and man is not? Why - except for man - is everything beautifully tuned unto itself and tuned with the whole? Why is man an exception? What has happened to man? What misfo ...
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Hi Unfortunately, after 8 years and such low activity it is very unlikely that you will receive a targeted reply from the originator of the post. Take time to read through the forums because you may find some answers but I am guessing that you need to chat in which case twitter may be a better option. Regards Telman   [End]
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Oh please. Don’t leave us. I know this post is eight years old but I am desperate to speak with you. I got magnet therapy and muscle testing that disclosed my parasitic infection of 25 years. I have been eliminating for the last four months but it feels like I am dying and it is getting worse. I have brain fog headaches, very toxic thoughts, feels like I am dying and everything around me is suffering. I have had no energy for over 10 years and just now found out about the parasites and realized now why I was needing some medication‘s to function with no energy. I wish I could talk to you. ...
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I have the same parasites exiting me as well   [End]
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Its alight i guess   [End]
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Hi Having same issues. Did you find out what those white specks are?   [End]
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Thanks Telman. My apartment toilet has no window. I leave to door open very often to the kitchen window, but ..... I was hoping for a Name of a Chemical or Product I can buy, perhaps someone else knows. Thanks for trying.   [End]
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Hi Alice I vent the toilet so that there is plenty of fresh air circulating and sometimes use a good quality air freshener. As my liver became cleaner, I found that odour is less of a problem. Telman also UK   [End]
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Can someone Please Solve the Mystery question of My Life? I have successfully done a Lot of Epsom Salt/Olive Oil Liver Flushes, in 3 years and I have a Very BASIC Question please. I live in the UK and can Not find out what to do with the TOILET bed smell, after Liver Flushing regularly. I have tried ALL KINDS of Bleach and Cleaners and can NOT get what I need from them. Do you PLEASE have ANY ADVICE on what Chemicals or Cleaners to use to get rid of it or neutralise it in some way. Thanks for any advice you can give. Alice in UK   [End]
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Hi You have responded to a message that is 18 years ago and the posted hasn’t been active for 7 years. There are indeed several good articles on the web. When to take a magnesium supplement depends on why you want to take it because it is in a composite form. If you are taking it as a food supplement as magnesium lactate or magnesium chlorate, then they are usually taken with the meal.   [End]
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i would like to know how long to take before a fatty meal..   [End]
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Hi Telman, Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to my post, I honestly wrote it on a wim one late evening, not really expecting to catch much attention. So seeing your reply caught me by surprise! I’m certain that scannings do pose errors; this has been confirmed after I removed one of my kidney stones, which wasn’t the only one, as later scannings confirmed another stone that was apparently missed the first time around. Therefore, it won’t come as a surprise if it turns out that my slow digestion is due to an obstructing yet painless gallstone. What convinces me even m ...
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I asked to be referred to a consultant, which is my right if the General Practitioner (GP) can not resolve the problem. I was also regurgitating food because my digestion was so slow and the abdominal pain was so intense 4 hrs after eating that I had to lie down. My sleep was also disturbed. In summary; severe pain, disrupted sleep and inability to keep food down meets the requirement to see a consultant. It is also worth mentioning that it had been 5 years since I first consulted with my GP with mild symptoms. Regards Telman   [End]
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Hi how did you get an MRI and assessed for the bile issue. I feel like this is what’s happening with me but I can’t get the Drs to take me seriously, they did ultrasound and exray and can’t find anything. I can’t live like this much I’m in constant discomfort no energy and everything thing I eat makes me even more tired and in agony.   [End]
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Hey! I have been reading this forum for years and years. I have a question. I take olive oil all the time with everything and every night. I never see parasites come out anymore, but I have all the symptoms and I know they are there, and very big. I can feel them, it is horrible. I read an article that has worried me a bit. https://stanmed.stanford.edu/2017summer/fat-worms-live-longer.html#:~:text=Stanford%20Medicine%20researchers%20have%20found,appears%20to%20extend%20their%20lives. I eat an avocado nearly every day, and a lot of olive oil. I cannot even sleep without the ...
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Hello everyone, I think I figured out some of those weird symptoms I mentioned where my heart has anxiety. I think all the malic acid I took caused malic acid-induced fanconi syndrome, which is essentially metabolic acidosis (and mimics diabetes because the high acidity inhibits insulin). I didn’t follow Andreas’s protocol well. I just took malic acid constantly, and this might have been a problem (there might have been a reason he structured a two week break in between flushes). There doesn’t seem to be a real solution for me other than pray the body heal itself; the kidneys’ proxi ...
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A large proportion of the population have gallstones in the gallbladder, which are usually found during scans for other medical problems. In many people they don’t cause any problems, but sometimes they obstruct the opening of the gallbladder as this results in a very uncomfortable stitch like pain. If the gallbladder struggles to contract, it can also cause inflammation of the gallbladder lining and this results in a burning pain, this can usually be detected with a blood test that shows elevated C-reactive protein (CRP). Mostly the obstruction clears itself, but sometimes it can be too l ...
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Hello, There are some symptoms that determine that people are having gallstones. 1. Sudden and rapidly intensifying pain in the upper right and centre portion of your abdomen 2. Back pain between your shoulder blades 3. Pain in your right shoulder 4. Nausea or vomiting 5. Yellowing of your skin and the whites of your eyes (jaundice) 6. High fever with chills Seek immediate care if you develop signs and symptoms of a serious gallstone complication.   [End]
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There are three conditions that determine whether you have gallstones. 1. Elevated liver markers in the blood such as albumin and bilirubin. Elevated blood works such as yours indicate that somewhere in the body may be some infection. 2. Pain in the upper right quadrant that radiates outwards as in intensifies. 3. Thickening of the gallbladder walls. Ultrasound in the right hands is very good at detecting gallstones but the doctor should send you to see a consultant if the symptoms continue and they affect you life and sleep. You need a clear plan to get your doctor to send you to a ...
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Hi everyone I started liver flushing many years ago and I’ve successfully passed many stones, all ranging from small green stones to large black ones. I think the liver flushes resolved some of my prior health issues, to which I’m very grateful for. However, a few years ago I started to develop pain below my right rib after eating fatty foods or certain sugars, which has effectively forced me to follow a strict diet. This was tolerable at first, but afterwards I started to develop constipation and hot flashes after certain meals and I’ve noticed that whenever I’m experiencing hot ...
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You can check my old posts for a way to do the flush in under 12 hours, depending on bowel transit time. Tea or fruit in the morning, 2 or more magnesium doses, then drink the oil. As soon as you feel the stones stop being expelled from the liver you can eat fruit again. The rest is just clearing the waste from your small intestine and colon. EZPZ Eating fruit right after the stones move makes things so much easier and recharges your glycogen supplies. The first rounds of flushes were very difficult before I found this method. Once you get a sufficient amount of stones out after a ...
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I used to sort of fast before liver flushing and would drink lots of apple juice to presumably help the stones be easy to remove. But then I had problems with low blood sugar. I tried this way and it worked. I did not eat heavy food, like meat, for some hours before bed. But I did eat 3 meals. I set an alarm to wake up about 4 AM to quickly drink the lemon and olive oil mixture and lie down. I figured by 4AM my stomach would be pretty empty. When I got up for the day, I drank magnesium citrate (Be careful to stay close to home that day and the next due to loose bowel movements.) I got ...
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I’m back under a new handle, because I lost my password and couldn’t reset it. I just wanted to wrap up my thread, by confirming that ”the blood sugar rollercoaster”, i.e. blood sugar spikes and crashes, is one of my migraine triggers, and it tends to get triggered when I try to do the liver flush, because of the high-carb, low protein/fat diet. This kind of diet gets me every time (not just when I eat that way for the liver flush). However, on my last flush, I did manage to avoid the migraine by eating less sugar. This was my third flush, and it went well. Here is what I ate. Breakf ...
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not enough bile or pancreatic enzymes. there are supplements for that. and salt. people are salt - both potassium chloride and sodium chloride - deficient. the body works automatically when it is fed right and gets fasted.   [End]
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try going carnivore   [End]
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Andreas Moritz says in his book that magnesium deficiency can be caused by poor bowel health. I also believe that it’s important to improve gut health before liver-flushing. This always leads to the question, what should one eat? This is the big question, and apart from not eating junk and refined food, the diet is determined by your genetic make-up, dietary history, past medications, etc. You have to experiment and treat all advice as guidance, not rules. There are primary and secondary enteroliths (AKA stones). Primary ones come from the biliary system and secondary ones from the bowe ...
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If magnesium deficiency is an issue would that explain why my stones just keep coming back. I just cannot seem to stop doing flushes. I eat vegetarian an no animal protein, try not to eat big meals but the still form and it’s so frustrating. Any tips?   [End]
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I did a simple search on the web and quickly discovered a number of articles. They show that magnesium deficiency is commonly found in liver disease and conversely low magnesium serum levels have an adverse effect on the liver. Here is one of the links: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6861788/   [End]
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@linenup, could you share some literature or tell me please from where did you learn that bile flow is dependent on magnesium?   [End]
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So I found an interesting article about how reactive hypoglycemia is one of the least understood triggers for migraines. As I understand, it is blood sugar spikes and subsequent crashes, caused by eating unbalanced simple carbohydrates. Here is the article: https://www.migraineagain.com/sugar-and-migraines-how-your-cravings-hurt/ And such is the diet you have to follow on the day of the liver flush (at least according to Moritz). So I plan to try to reduce the sugar (i.e. fruit) in what I eat, and include a little lean protein (maybe 4-5 grams total but that’s it). There are also other ...
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This is the first time I am going through about a raw potato juice consumption. As it can really make this the most challenging thing to heal the things for particular diseases according to   [End]
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What on earth are those alien looking things?   [End]
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Oh, I see. I hope you were able to do something about the bile crystallizing in your ducts. I agree with your ND and don’t want the surgery, either. I predicate that decision on my intent to keep going with the cleanses, though. I just finished up my second one. I avoided a migraine this time; I only barely felt one starting to threaten to come on around 7 pm, so I just did some relaxing floor yoga poses with a hot water bottle and it went away. But I cheated on the diet--I was not so strict about no fat, no protein. And I only passed very small stones this time. I also had a more unpleas ...
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I’ve been through this exact same conversation with doctors, but my personal practitioner has always been against surgery to remove my gallbladder. I had sludge from my first ultrasound, and it was still there 12 months later. Furthermore, I didn’t have an ultrasound for another 8 years, even though I had an occasional biliary attack. That ultrasound showed no sludge, but instead it reveals that the bile was crystallizing in the ducts, which I have to assume was the primary problem. There are just as many risks involved in having the gallbladder removed as keeping it, so it’s a personal ...
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Hi Telman. Thank you for the input. I scale the whole recipe down to my body weight, but I’ll put in an extra gram or two of Epsom salt in each of my two glasses today, and go a gram or two lighter with the two tomorrow. Hopefully that helps move more sludge out. :) I was at the doctor for a regular checkup the other day. On the subject of my gallbladder, she agreed to let me go another 6 months and get another scan, but told me the sludge would still be there (of course that’s what regular doctors say) and advised me of the risks of letting this condition go (yes, I’m aware). My mig ...
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If you have biliary sludge confirmed by ultrasound, you may need more than the occasional liver flush. From folks have reported in the past, 9 flushes would appear the minimum. As you go through the cleansing programme, you will see the stones change in shape and consistency. The flush potion is very powerful, even if you take half the recommended. The Epsom salt solution needs to of sufficient strength to contract the gallbladder as well as being a laxative. I would recommend having a high strength dose pre-potion and a lesser dose afterwards. In respect of your migraines, have you ...
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Hi. In case anyone is following my thread, I’m preparing for my second liver flush. I made it through the holidays, but relapsed with my digestive system stuff. I recovered, but relapsed again after getting a booster shot. It seems more difficult to bounce back this time (given what some people have been dealing with follwing either having the disease or the v@x, but that’s another subject.) A 36-hour fast did help this time as well, but only temporarily. I suspect I have bile reflux. The doctors advise me to have my gallbladder taken out, and I really don’t want to resort to that, especia ...
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This is in reply to mmmmm1234 who wrote about cheilitis and food reactions to vinegar dairy acidic etc. If anyone else has this type of list I welcome replies. I had it since 2009. It’s 2022. I can minimize but not cure it with avoiding vinegar dried fruits and certain cheeses sauces. But I don’t think it’s the acid in fruit. I think it’s the pesticides. I do ok w organic fruit. I can’t use fake butter either like soy spread margarine etc. And certain nuts. I just don’t know if it’s the food or an additive. I can eat a chocolate sometimes but not all. And my reactions are almost instant. T ...
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Liver Cleanse - one per month 3 oz water distilled 4 Tbs Epsom salts (heat 3oz of the water and dissolve 4 Tbsp Epsom salts) 1/2 cup light Olive oil or extra virgin 1-1/2 cups fresh squeezed grapefruit juice no pulp, 2 small grapefruits 1 pkg Butt wipes, a straw and measuring cup 1. Stop all vitamin and herb regimens before cleanse and don’t do if sick. 2. Eat NO Fat or Protein for breakfast and lunch 3. 2pm stop all eating and drinking except water 4. 6pm drink 1 oz of Epsom salt water and chase with water 5. 8pm drink 1 oz of Epsom salt water and chase with water 7. 9:30p ...
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The way to get stones unstuck is to do a full or partial epsom salt liver flush.   [End]
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Thank you, Telman. Your concern for my health-obsessiveness is valid since my family has repeatedly accused me of it. However, I sincerely believe I am capable of more than the mental and physical feats I currently produce, and liver dysfunction provides a perfect explanation, especially in the context of numerous symptoms: pain in right abdomen, right shoulder blade, and behind right eye; coated tongue, loose stools, dark circles around eyes, elevated cortisol levels, constant fatigue, inability to lose fat, and pot belly. As far as “basic principles,” I think I misunderstood the pur ...
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Hi Comedianoob Sorry I am so late in replying to your post but the site is going through some sort of evolution and I haven’t been able to access. I am worried that you are doing too much on your own and that whole process has become an obsession. I know how difficult it is when your body just doesn’t feel right, but we have all had these feelings. Don’t lose sight of the basic principles and validate your thoughts, as it is very easy to become obsessive about ones own health. I can also become a method of control in a world that seems out of control. In respect of your liver-flus ...
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I think you’re right in that broccoli is not known for its bitterness, but since it is a cruciferous vegetable the stomach has a difficult time breaking it down, which means it triggers bitter-taste-receptors of the stomach longer.   [End]
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I am struggling a lot. Some combination of a low carb diet, constant malic acid, gold coin grass, and chanca piedra must have depleted my intramuscular potassium stores. I have to drink a bunch just to stave off cramps and headaches, now. I believe it can be reversed, but that’s not the focus of this forum. Because of the potassium deficiency, exercise has for some reason made me extremely hungry such that I gain weight rapidly (protein foods). To avoid this and still reap the benefits of cardio’s effects on the liver, I purchased a home sauna kit. It costs me almost no metabolic ene ...
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I would remind you that this is a liverflush support forum. Despite following the liverflush regime for 100s of flushes you only find the urge to post now. Don’t you think that the liverflushing has put you into a good position that you can now try other therapies? If you had started the Betaine Hydrochloride without initially without liverflushing would you be in the position you find yourself in today? People are not liverflushing for the same reason there are many conditions that may benefit from liver cleansing. I have enterolithiasis, are you saying that if I abandoned liverflushi ...
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I recently posted that I have had not had to do anymore flushes since taking Betaine Hydrochloride, but did not post Full Spectrum K2 needs to be added. Literally, i have done 100’s flushes, but since taking these 2 tablets, my life is full of fat & flush free & for this 66 year old, there is much rejoicing as i hate those flushes.   [End]
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Did you ever find out if those pics were truly fungus or not? If so how did u get rid of it? I have the same stuff coming out? Please respond to me. Bootsieb@yahoo.com   [End]
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I remember I did my first cleanse about 21 years ago, I went to the Health Hut, got me two big gallons of apple juice with mother, a bottle of red beetroot for the sugar balance, the cascara Sagrada to move everything through, and the olive oil. Since then I’ve done about 40 or more liver purges, and I cannot tell you how many juice fast I have done, I did complete a 40-day juice fast back in 07 around that area. But when I started my journey 21 years ago, my body was a total train wreck I was in constant pain, but by 2005 I was able to remove 110 lb from my body, I became totally pain fre ...
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Hi FocusOnHeath, Thank you so much for answering my question. So good to know. I actually just hopped on here to say that I made it through the cleanse! Barely, though. A migraine started threatening, but never went into full swing. And the cleanse really does work like they say it does! I’ll definitely be continuing with these after the holidays. I followed Moritz’ protocol. I’ve heard it’s similar to Clark’s, and I’ll try to read that book, too, as it sounds, from what you’ve said, more specific on certain aspects. That makes sense about fat being the thing to really avoid. But I’ll ...
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I’ve been trying to figure out if protein is as important to avoid on that day, as fat, or not quite. Most things that have protein, also have fat, and I know that animal products are to be especially avoided. But if I would have a few sips of a smoothie that has almond protein with breakfast, for example, would that be ok? And how about if the veggies I have for lunch have a few beans in them? Because, the way I see it, rice is recommended in Moritz’ book, and rice does have a small amount of protein. So as long as I stay low in protein, and very close to 0 fat, I think/hope it will be ok ...
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OK, I’ll read your post log on here, for future reference. I bet it’s good, as you do sound very experienced. Apologies for sounding ungrateful. (There’s no Walmart in my country anymore, though, but I can order online.)   [End]
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Well if I did not load you up with enough information from the to post I have put on here this morning oh, I don’t know what else I have to say. It really doesn’t matter to me if somebody cleans their: out or not but when I see a discussion going on that I’m an expert in, and I see situations that I have come across so many times. You can click on my name and you’ve got about 14 years my postings you can read through, but I’m not interested in proving anything to anyone. Only the people that come in my circle of life now has access to me. The reason being there are a lot of ungrateful huma ...
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Hi steven, Thanks for the information. It sounds interesting. Do you have a resource somewhere with the complete protocol for the 2-day purge? I’ll consider it in the future, but for my first time, I am sticking with the one in the famous book, which I’ve read. HTH.   [End]
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Again, it only takes 2 days to do the liver flush, unless your colon is compacted. I have run across a few people that have done the protocol and still could not get their colon to empty out. The way to be able to tell if your colon is empty, you will have solids coming out for the first day or maybe two depends on how your diet has been, after all the solids have come out to cascara Sagrada will cause a release of a lot of brown bile at the end. Watch you get the liquid bowel dump, at any time after that you can consume the oil and wait the four to six hours for the stones to come out the ...
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Hi FocusOnHealth, Thanks for the reply. I’ll avoid the coffee enema today. But I found it a bit confusing that on the one hand, you told me to follow the protocol exactly; and on the other, you told me not to be such a perfectionist, for questioning how precisely I have to follow the protocol. But anyway, I’ve just finished my lunch, and I ate exactly what I said I would. Including the whole smoothie. So we’ll see how it goes. I don’t feel that cancelling my cleanse due to a migraine is a cop-out. It’s my body and my intuition. This is a rather drastic procedure, one I’ve never done ...
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I never reached the point of drinking the oil mixture, because throughout the day of eating no fat/protein, I would come down with a migraine, which became debilitating by evening time. I don’t get migraines that often, but I did also get one the day I tried to do a fruit fast, which was also no protein or fat, so that’s the common denominator. Sapphi, there is an infinite number of food combinations... and you have your biochemical individuality... so it’s your job to figure out what works for you. Does anyone know if it’s ok to do a coffee enema the day of the actual cleanse? Or ...
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You can do a liver Purge in one or two days and I have proven it over and over and over again. Why people go through these hard regimens, when it can simply be done and one or two days, at the total cost of $15 with all products being bought at Walmart of all places. One bottle of cascara Sagrada, three or four large cans of Dole pineapple juice, and 6 oz of your favorite oil, most people use olive oil, and that’s perfectly fine, but you can also use sesame seed oil grapeseed oil are any of the oils that are cold-pressed oil. I have even used mineral oil and it gave me the largest Stones b ...
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If you study Chinese Te’o like I have, you will understand that there are four different stones, green brown black and red, and the red ones are the most toxic in the one’s deepest in the liver. I do a liver Purge once or twice a year for the last 20 years, over the last 20 years as I have watched hundreds and hundreds of people do the liver Purge. I witnessed about three people that could not hold the oil down, and all three of those people had chronic liver disease, one of them being my mother. And she died non-alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver oh, a few years later. I guess I really need ...
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Hello all. I am on my fifth day of preparation for the liver cleanse. My problem is, this is the third time I’ve prepped for it. Both previous times, I never reached the point of drinking the oil mixture, because throughout the day of eating no fat/protein, I would come down with a migraine, which became debilitating by evening time. I don’t get migraines that often, but I did also get one the day I tried to do a fruit fast, which was also no protein or fat, so that’s the common denominator. Does anyone know if it’s ok to do a coffee enema the day of the actual cleanse? Or must it be a ...
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Garlic forte by standard process gets my large white flukes out   [End]
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Hi, which brand of Betaine hydrochloride do you take ? Do you take one gram with each meal? When do you take it? right before the meal or during the meal or right after the meal? Thank you   [End]
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I just want to tell everyone that you don’t need to do constant liver flushes as i have done 100’s & i hate them, but had to as was too sick or having attacks, but then i discovered Betaine hydrochloride 1gm & i take with every bit of food i eat, if like coconut milk/cream, cheese, butter, avocado, chops or any fat & i have not had one attack or sickness.. Truly, it works...and I am so grateful to my son who put me onto this...please try it.   [End]
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But still no stones just brown fluffy powder. It’s discouraging because... Slytherin, There is no such thing as ”no stones”. If there are no stones, then you’re doing something wrong. #1) I have done hundreds of liver flushes since 1986 - the year I started taking vitamins and supplements. #2) 15 days ago I did a liver flush. Just as expected - lots of green stones. #3) Yesterday I also did a liver flush. Just as expected - lots of green stones. #4) I rely on Clark’s protocol... and I have improved it. However, unless you’ve done hundreds of liver flushes, don’t try to imp ...
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29th liver flush, In the last 35 years I’ve done hundreds of liver flushes. only getting brown sand/puffy material out for the last several flushes. My symptoms aren’t improving. What seems to be the issue? I feel stuff (stones?) moving around my liver sometimes and each flush the spot between my shoulder blades gets sore. But still no stones just brown fluffy powder. It’s discouraging because I get so nauseas and I know that’s due to toxins in the liver being released but then no stones just brown fluffy stuff. It all sinks to the bottom of the bowl. I flush every 2 weeks ...
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Hi, which exact brand of HCL do yo use? When do you take it ? Right before the first bite of meal or in the middle of meal or right after a meal?   [End]
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Honestly..i feel for you, but you don’t have to flush..just take HCI 1gm per meal & no more pain or attacks or gallbladder flushes as i have done 100’s but now can eat whatever..no problems   [End]
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Once the mind starts to question the presence of parasites, it is better just to carry the parasite-cleanse. It’s very easy to do, and then you can move on. It will stop parasites becoming an obsessive thought. One has to live a life and fit in the cleansing at the same time. You have got to be sociable and have relationships etc. Otherwise, you will enter a downward cycle of health anxiety. Our gut health has such an enormous amount of influence over our metal health. The gut and the liver are also inexplicably connected via the enterohepatic cycle. Thee advocated order of cleansing ...
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Thanks for that encouraging info. Flushes 29 and 30 both produced some small stones, better than nothing. But I keep hearing parasite cleanse advocates saying you’ll never remove stones until after the parasites have been removed from blocking the ducts. Andreas Moritz is my primary go to and he says parasite cleanses are arbitrary until after the liver stones have unblocked the ducts. Despite Andreas I am beginning to consider doing a parasite cleanse as I’m over 30 flushes in and still no green bile flow, I feel like the count of monte cristo my life has been on hold since I was 14 due t ...
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how big was your hemorrhoid? Did you just put ice on it everyday once a day?   [End]
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You flush every two weeks until you get no more stones for 3 consecutive flushes. At this point you should consider yourself clear, and you can go onto a maintenance programme it you feel it’s necessary. If you are still feeling bad, and you suspect it’s the liver, there are a number of conditions that affect the liver. Some are beyond the scope of the cleansing protocols but sometimes because liver function is dependent on the gut and good circulation of bile any problems with the intestines, particularly the ileum, will result in biliary dysfunction. For example, poor circulation o ...
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29th liver flush, only getting brown sand/puffy material out for the last several flushes. My symptoms aren’t improving. I feel stuff (stones?) moving around my liver sometimes and each flush the spot between my shoulder blades gets sore. But still no stones just brown fluffy powder. It’s discouraging because I get so nauseas and I know that’s due to toxins in the liver being released but then no stones just brown fluffy stuff. It all sinks to the bottom of the bowl. I flush every 2 weeks and have tried chanca piedra and Pulverex but neither seems to help. I know somethings pressuring insi ...
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Hi Jules Much of the debate surrounding Lecithin is 10 to 15 years old because they didn’t become mainstream and the evidence supporting them was thin. One also may need to take several grams to get the desired effect for bile saturation. Regards Telman   [End]
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Thank you! (I had read a few posts but they were from many years ago)   [End]
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This question has been asked in the past and there hasn’t been a definitive answer. Lecithin granules are readily available not only in the health store but also some major supermarkets. I can’t remember, and also can’t find any negative post about using lecithin granules and because they are in granule form you can take as much as you want. Consequently, you can start small and monitor your response. If you search curezone for lecithin you will be able to read all the past posts, follow the link below: https://www.curezone.org/forums/search.asp?q=lecithin&action=Find   [End]
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Hello, I had been trying to take lecithin granules from the health food store for me liver. I cannot do the liver flushes right now due to my condition and situation, I hope to be able to do the flushes. I have liver cysts and kidney cysts and digestive problems, and cannot tolerate car fumes or chemicals due to my poor liver (though the Dr. seems to think it is fine), I have also been jaundiced a few times and get dark urine sometimes. Is there any contraindication for taking lecithin granules? What is the best lecithin? I cannot buy too expensive or Gallon Jugs (too hard for me t ...
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Dear morturo Please tell me how did you got cure from those parasite. I have exactly same in the above mentioned diagram Kindly share your contact details Below is my contact number vee.5417@gmail.com 00919113962835   [End]
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Dear morturo Please tell me how did you got cure from those parasite. I have exactly same in the above mentioned diagram   [End]
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Dear sir I have flukes please suggest me treatment. How you have treated flukes pl tell me.   [End]
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Hi everyone - I’d like to share with you the Russian treatment that literally saved my life... There are lots of testimonies confirming the efficacy of the treatment and it has also been patented. I have been hesitant to spread the word about it because of the contraversial ingredients. However, I can assure you that the mixture itself becomes a different substance altogether and absolutely harmless as opposed to the separate ingredients. Feel free to read more about it here - https://sites.google.com/site/nvshevchenko1/metodika You can do a google translate to english. And please keep ...
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It is much more comfortable to me and more often recommended now to use HCL, or Hydrochloric acid as the activator....instead of an acid like lemon or citric acid. I find no reactions of concern when I use the hydrochloric acid in the recommended dilution as the activator. Please see the brighteon videos of Andreas Kalcher showing how to use this instead.... its much better !   [End]
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I started MMS a couple of days ago. My stool is yellow. I am concerned this is too hard on my liver. It is not mentioned in the book. I am not confident the solutions are correct. Seems the sodium hydrochlorite weakens each day and the 50% citric acid may be too strong. I tried making the CDS and my PH strip came out neutral not dark blue. When I use the MMS protocol I put 2 drops MMS and one drop citric acid and get a nice amber color at thirty seconds. It is darker than when I mixed one to one. I am hoping diluting the citric acid (that I think is mixed too strong), will be less ...
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Good report back which is appreciated. Electrolytes and water are interdependent, as they will exist in the blood stream in a ratio. If one goes up, the others are adjusted. The best source of electrolytes is intercellular fluid found in fruit a veg. If potassium goes up or down, it causes neuromuscular effects. High sodium stiffens the blood arteries and cause heart anomalies that feel like anxiety. If bicarbonate levels become elevated, this can cause general muscular weakness, irregular heartbeats, and poor function of ileum. This makes sleeping difficult with squirming legs and bad ...
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