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B12 in Water Kefir? by chorisia 17 y View Entire Thread 3
Kefir is defined as containing vitamin B12 does this apply to water Kefir/Kefir Duva or does this only apply to milk Kefir? From my own experience Kefir grains used in milk and then transferred to fruit juice is best avoided,when water Kefir grains are supplied ask the supplier to confirm they are water grains and not milk processed...milk Kefir is better staying with milk....I am currently experimenting with the first ’Kefir’ I bought (defined as Kefir duva,in fact milk kefir) in composting! 9,054 hits
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Re: Where can I buy Kefir Grains (water and milk)? by cushman 15 y
congratulations on wanting to make your kefir from natural kefir grains and not those commercial starters. : ) as to where to buy kefir grains, a lot of people are actually giving their kefir grains away, since everytime you make kefir from it, you actually ”grow” more kefir grains. But if you can’t find someone who is willing to give you some, or are worried about the kefir grains quality or even their health in this site you can buy kefir grains. you can also read up on some kefir grains, kefir recipes, kefir facts, kefir tips and general information about kefir. 12,657 hits
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Re: Why is Keifir so good? by dvjorge 11 y
Abstract Kefir is a milk-derived product prepared by the incubation of kefir ‘grains’ with defatted milk. Various studies have been published on the therapeutic effects of kefir. However, few controlled studies and little information on the antibacterial, antifungal and antitumoural activities of kefir have been published. Therefore, these activities associated with kefir were investigated. The daily intraperitoneal administration of 0.50 mL kefir for 20 days to mice; containing transplanted fusiform cell carcomas resulted in a significant decrease in tumour size. Kefir-induced disappeara ... 2,866 hits
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Re: Tips On Getting Started Making Your Own Kefir From Li... by edarmstrong23 15 y
Good job on the detailed step by step! It is kind of weird why metal can’t be used on kefir. But whatever keeps the kefir grains nice and healthy right? : ) ---------------------------------------------------------- Ed... currently munching on some kefir grains... and gulping down a glass of nice cold kefir. 4,130 hits

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Tony's Experiences With Live Kefir Grains by TGParker 19 y
04/20/2005 Well gang, I’ve been making Probiotic Kefir for almost a month and it’s really been working for me. I make my Kefir from Live Grains, and then ”Spike” my brew with Acidophilus, Bifidus, & S.Bouliardii. I also have plenty of Live Organic Kefir Grains to share. If you want some Live Kefir Grains e-mail me directly. All the best! 04/01/2005 I’ve decided to explore home production Live Grain Kefir as a possible source of anti-candida probiotics. So today I actually started my fisrt batch of Live Grain Kefir. Eventually I will have Kefir Grains to share, so if you’re intetere ... 6,029 hits
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Tony's Experiences With Live Kefir Grains by tgparker 19 y
04/20/2005 Well gang, I’ve been making Probiotic Kefir for almost a month and it’s really been working for me. I make my Kefir from Live Grains, and then ”Spike” my brew with Acidophilus, Bifidus, & S.Bouliardii. I also have plenty of Live Organic Kefir Grains to share. If you want some Live Kefir Grains e-mail me directly. All the best! 04/01/2005 I’ve decided to explore home production Live Grain Kefir as a possible source of anti-candida probiotics. So today I actually started my fisrt batch of Live Grain Kefir. Eventually I will have Kefir Grains to share, so if you’re intetere ... 5,085 hits
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Re: how to seperate kefir grain from yogurt? They are Het... by roselinville 19 y
I am fairly new to making kefir but this is what I do: After letting the kefir sit for 24 hrs, I then take a clean fork and whisk it around in the kefir (I only make about 2 cups of kefir at a time). Then I pour some kefir into a bowl and fish out chunks of kefir grains with the fork, then dump the remaining kefir into a blender. I keep doing this until I’ve fished most of the kefir grains out. Now, this does leave some grains in the kefir, but I have read that it is good to eat some of the kefir grains, which I mix up in the blender with some fruit & such for a tasty smoothie. (I h ... 3,624 hits 1 of 1 (100%)
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Re: Need links for making yogurt or kefir, please by tasha92337 17 y
live grain kefir is much better than yogurt for Candida. but because you have leaky gut, i would suggest water kefir/coconut kefir/cabbage kefir as regular kefir which is raw milk derived can still contain lactose, but even the regular one will give you benefits. READ: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=658810#i http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=919719#i The Live Kefir Grains database maintains a list of these sources: http://66.46.11.99/clarkson/Show/Clarkson/kefir/ http://realmilk.com/where1.html Sources of RAW MILK in the USA http://re ... 16,706 hits
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Making water Kefir by dizzeespell 14 y View Entire Thread 12
Anyone know what the basic ingredients are to make Kefir water other than the actual water Kefir grains? I’m looking for the very basics without trying to make a special water Kefir drink or whatever. Is it just 4 tbls of sugar, 4 cups of Spring water and a 1/2 cup of water Kefir grains? Are those the basics in order to make Kefir water? What’s the best water to use? I went to Dom’s site and couldn’t find basic instructions on making water Kefir. I might have been on another of his sites though not the main one. I’m getting some good water Kefir grains and was wondering about the instru ... 3,611 hits
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Re: How long does an unopened bottle of Kefir milk from t... by edarmstrong23 15 y
Not all bacteria are good. There are good ones and there are bad ones. Just like when you eat medicines like antibiotic, which kills bacteria, there are probiotics like kefir and yogurt. You want to stay away from bad bacteria because these can cause you a lot of pain. take for example salmonella. If you eat expired or contaminated food, you could end up in the hospital. Just because it’s kefir doesn’t mean it doesn’t have bad bacteria in it. In reality, there are bad bacteria in kefir. It’s just that the good bacteria in kefir is a whole lot more. Regarding your question, it is kind o ... 40,851 hits
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Re: Regarding cures by fragrance 18 y
The best probiotic there is is KEFIR. The great thing is that once you have the kefir grains, you just add milk each day, strain out the grains and you have a wonderful probiotic drink and then just add milk to the strained grains. You can get these grains free from the wonderful kefir community. Here’s a link: http://www.torontoadvisors.com/Kefir/kefir-list.php. Home this helps. 4,241 hits
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Milk kefir vs water kefir by lita 20 y View Entire Thread 3
Do these two offer different benefits? If you are unable to obtain organic milk would it be better to use the water kefir? Can you interchange the kefir grains, to make milk kefir from the grains used to make water kefir and vice versa? I have 9 in my family, making enough milk kefir for everyone may be too much for me (financially), at least for daily consumption. Perhaps some days water kefir, some days milk kefir? TIA, Lita 3,467 hits
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Re: Dead, dead, dead! by Zapp 14 y
Dead, dead, dead is what you might end being. Deliberately leaving most store bought kefirs unrefrigerated could be a very dangerous practice. With exceptions, store bought kefir is NOT made from real kefir grains. Even when store bought kefir is fermented from real kefir grains, it is usually not fully fermented. There is usually plenty of sugar left in store bought kefir. You have no idea what pathogenic bacteria you might be incubating as an unwanted secondary fermentation. Store bought kefir usually is not real kefir brewed from real kefir grains. Store bought kefir frequently is only ... 2,224 hits
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Tony's Experiences Making Live Grain Kefir by tgparker 19 y
Tony’s Experiences Making Live Grain Kefir Today I started making my first batch of home-made Live Grain Kefir. I’ve decided to explore home production Live Grain Kefir as a possible source of anti-candida probiotics. So today I actually started my fisrt batch of Live Grain Kefir. Eventually I will have Kefir Grains to share, do if you’re inteterested in any Live Kefir Grains give me a shout. I’ll also kep you all updated re: my various pro-biotic enhancements to the kefir. Best places to start researching Kefir making online were at the following websites: http://66.46.11. ... 1,667 hits
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Re: grains from organic cow's milk or store bought milk by Marilyn_kefir_lady 19 y
Question: You mentioned geniune water kefir grains...where would I be able to get those? How are they different? I have water kefir grains. You can give me a call if you want some. 419-237-3095 Water kefir grains are a whole different animal. I don’t know why they put the word kefir in there. Here’s what they look like: http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html#alternativekefir Question: How can I convert milk kefir grains to water kefir grains? Rinse all the curds off of about two tablespoons of milk kefir grains in purified water. Put them in a jar and use the sam ... 3,544 hits
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Re: kefir grains are hugh! by rifekefir 19 y
You should normally be culturing a new batch of kefir every 24 hours. Very strong kefir will be extremely tart and sour and will have separated into layers of curds and whey, some of it chunky. The amount of lactic acid in kefir should allow it to remain untainted for up to a month in the fridge. Sometimes a non-pathogenic white mold called ’flower of kefir’ will grow on top of stored kefir. It is harmless and can be spooned off the top. Older kefir can have a very harsh smell, but it smells worse than it tastes. I have made some delicious kefir pies with very strong kefir, that w ... 2,037 hits
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Re: To curlyzone by curlyzone 19 y
I think that storebought kefir tastes more like thick yogurt (which I like by the way), whereas homemade kefir is more like slightly sour yogurt, and they do have slightly different texture. Storebought kefir is very homogenous (which seems to be unnatural to me). I received my kefir grains from a guy living nearby. I found him through http://www.torontoadvisors.com/Kefir/kefir-list.php I got my grains last week, and started making kefir right away. I drink kefir like 1 hour before I go to bed.. So it is the last thing that enters my stomach. And now I have healthy bowel movements e ... 3,607 hits
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Re: Why is Kefir supposed to be ok to eat, if it is made ... by VX 14 y
Making kefir is fairly easy. 1) You need kefir grains. You can probably find them at health food stores, if not you can find them online (like www.mercola.com). http://www.mercola.com/forms/kefir.htm The Weston Price Foundation shares Kefir grains for free. Anyone that currently makes kefir can share some grains... they multiply as they make kefir. 2) You put the grains into a 12 ounce mason jar of (raw) milk and leave it somewhere (not in the sun) for 24 hours. In 24 hours the grains grow and have transformed the milk into kefir. 3) Separate the grains from the kefir by using ... 3,791 hits
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Re: The Great Kefir Experiment! by zapp 17 y
IMO, most storebought ”kefir’ should not be called kefir. Real kefir grains are highly complex, balanced ecosystems containing over thirty beneficial micro-organisms. You can not use even real kefir as starter for additional batches of kefir, as you can with yogurt. Real kefir can only be brewed from the actual grains themselves. Most commercial kefir contain ten or so mico-organisms, plenty of lactose, and even added sweeteners. Real, fully ripened kefir has a ph of 4, all of the lactic acid, and none of the lactose. Read Dom’s Kefir Page. Calling kefir grains ”a miracle of nature” is no ... 3,558 hits
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Does anyone know a good, reliable live grain kefir supplier? by Suckstohavethis 16 y View Entire Thread 8
I’ve checked Ebay and amazon.com. Among them I found these: http://www.amazon.com/Organic-Kefir-KEFIR-GRAINS-ORGANIC/dp/B000ZTG4UG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1200869722&sr=8-1 http://www.amazon.com/Kefir-Grains-Starter-Organic-Culture/dp/B000SOJ2CK/ref=pd_bbs_11?ie=UTF8&s=hpc&qid=1200870141&sr=8-11 http://www.torontoadvisors.com/Kefir/kefir-list.php The last one there I have tried several potential U.S. suppliers, and have not recieved a single reply.. Maybe someone here who’s willing to share their grains? 6,568 hits
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Re: O/T What is your take on dairy products? by Newport 17 y
From: The SCD™ Knowledge Base http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/kefir.htm What makes kefir different from yogurt is that kefir is fermented with bacteria and yeast, while yogurt is just fermented with bacteria. Elaine’s position on kefir is more reflective of the intestinal diseases than autism: she feels that there is the chance of cross-reactivity between an already-overstimulated immune system and yeast from kefir. She has said that kefir is OK for someone whose gut is well along the road to healing. My son with the intestinal problems and colitis ha ... 4,000 hits
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Re: Kefir safe for people with hypoglycemia/food intolera... by Hope60 15 y
We drink Milk Kefir (not Water Kefir) everyday - actually mostly I make my Kefir from Soy Milk, periodically mixing with real milk. So, if you milk intolerant - you can start on Fermented Soy Milk or any other Milk substitute such as Nut or Seed Milk. However, Real Milk should be OK too - since Kefir Grains will Ferment Lactose in Milk and it will be safe for you to drink. Just keep the fermentation a bit longer to make sure all the lactose is fermented. My husband has type II Diabetes - I give him Kefir everyday without any problems... it helps cure Diabetes. Actually, we al ... 5,486 hits
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Re: water kefir- candida - take Milk Kefir! by cushman 15 y
Awesome post! as for soy milk instead of milk, i really haven’t thought of that! but sounds interesting and worth a try! I personally think any medium can be used to make kefir from kefir grains as long as you feed the kefir grains what they eat. Milk kefir grains eat lactose while water kefir grains eat fructose and glucose if i’m not mistaken. As long as they have their food, and the environment is suitable, albeit not acidic enough to kill them, they should be fine. Healthy kefir grains are hardy little critters. 36,044 hits
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Re: Milk Kefir or Water Kefir? by Ottotron 12 y
In theory, milk kefir will be entirely lactose-free (carb-free) if allowed to ferment for a sufficiently long period. I suspect that if allowed to ferment for 3 days, then 99% of the lactose will have been consumed by the kefir grains. As such, lactose-free kefir should be 99% safe on a candida diet. I’m still experimenting with coconut milk kefir, but I suspect that the caprylic acid in the coconut milk will impair a majority of the kefir’s probiotic qualities. But I’m not certain. The bottom line: 1. Lactose-free kefir is fine on a candida diet; 2. The probiotic value of c ... 11,983 hits
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Making own kefir - do I need grains? by janko2 11 y
I read that somebody bought kefir in store, then mixed it with milk and that is how he got kefir grains. Later I also read on other site the following statement: ”I’ve not used kefir starter as it only has 7 microbials and REAL kefir grains have 56+ beneficial microbials.” So from what I understand, kefir that is made first time from kefir will only have 7 microbials, but if I make grains from kefir and then kefir, this would be the same as if I made kefir from grains? I just don’t understand that. And any way how can you know if grains were made from kefir and not from grains? I know ... 1,179 hits
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Re: lactose can be further reduced or eliminated by stockwiz 21 y
This procedure is taken from dom’s site, which you will find by typing in ”kefir” on google. It’s the number one site. The method explained below, will reduce most if not all the lactose from the kefir, making it most favourable for Lactose Intolerant individuals, or for individuals who need to watch their sugar or carbohydrate intake [e.g., Diabetics or Low Carb Dieters]. This method is the no-fridge method. This is performed by placing freshly strained kefir in a sealed container and storing [ripening] at room temperature. This system is similar to how kefir was stored by the original ... 3,726 hits
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MAJOR DIFFERENCE: kefir grains and store-bought kefir by Alexcena 19 y
Hi, As the subject line reads there is a MAJOR DIFFERENCE between store-bought kefir which is loaded with sugar and kefir produced at home with kefir grains. Kefir grains allow individuals to make kefir without high sugar content. It is very simple to do...each day you put fresh milk in a jar with the grains and kefir is made 12 to 24 hours later. You strain the kefir out and add more milk to make kefir for the next day!! Simple!! To reduce the small amount of lactose sugars produced in the homemade kefir, simply allow the kefir to ferment for 1-3 days (or longer). I typically all ... 6,011 hits
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Probiotic Drink - Skim Milk and Or Kefir by coatzalcoatlx 18 y View Entire Thread 4
Moreless have been wondering about your suggestion with Skim milk. Over the last month I have been brewing my own Milk kefir from 1.5% Organic cow milk. Im not sure how much you know about kefir, but its contains HUGE amnounts of benificial bactaria. It occured to me that If I was to take amy acifholus casules with a glass of the kefir milk befor emy meals, I would get the benifits of the good bactaria. Do you feel that using Kefir could be an improvement on the use of Skim milk? Sincerely Coatzalcoatlx Snip snip-- ON Kefir-- Kefir, which means ’feel good” in Turkish, ... 13,182 hits
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Re: Rejuvelac and Kefir Q's. by Zapp 18 y
Most commercially produced kefir is produced from a culture starter mix. With a few exceptions, real kefir grains are not used in commercial kefir production. Count the number of organisms found in most commerically produced kefirs, less than a dozen!!! Compare that to the thirty or more beneficial organisms typically found in real kefir fermented from grains. And fermenting kefir from grains is easy and inexpensive. 1,817 hits
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Re: Kifer Grains Or Starter Culture...Whats Best?? by rifekefir 19 y
There is only one kind of real kefir, the kind made with living milk grains. Anything made from a starter without living grains is just a weird enhanced type of buttermilk. Yogurt is different from real kefir and is a warm culture. Kefir is a drinkable beverage and is a cool weather culture. If you want to make a ’kefir yogurt’ buy one of those powdered kefir starters (which don’t make a real kefir anyway) and try that. 7,731 hits 1 of 1 (100%)
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Re: YIKES! yeast in my kefir?! by rod 21 y
as everything in the world there are good yeast that help your body and bad yeast the one that comes in kefir is the good yeast, don’t worry about it, I have been drinking for 2 months 1.5 litres of kefir per day and feeling better day by day. However the commercial kefir is not the right one you must try to get the real kefir grains, so that you can prepair kefir at home with not additional price other than the milk. Conclusion: Kefir is the best probiotic and food you can put in your guts. cheers Rod 9,336 hits
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Re: description by ladybug 21 y
You can find a whole lot of incredible info about kefir at Dom’s kefir site - unfortunately I can’t tolerate dairy either and have to turn to water-kefir. I love the ”regular” kefir taste - well, just another thing I can’t eat... :) Do you have kefir grains already? If not, look at this site: http://66.46.11.99/clarkson/Show/Clarkson/kefir/default.asp I’ve got my grains from there, cost me 5 bucks and the grains are wonderful. :) 1,788 hits
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Re: Live Kefir grains? by tasha92337 17 y
cassiopeia- The quickest way to get live kefir grains is to ask someone who makes kefir locally. You can also get free kefir grains from several sources who will mail them to you on request. The Live Kefir Grains database maintains a list of these sources. When making your request, please be sure to include your full name and mailing address. Here is the link ’ http://66.46.11.99/clarkson/Show/Clarkson/kefir/ Best wishes Natasha 1,738 hits
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Re: Anybody have some Water Kefir Grains? by jchase 15 y
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Re: Tired eyes: by Hveragerthi 13 y
On the kefir topic...does water kefir have the same benefits as the milk kefir?I can’t seem to find a lot of info on that. For the most part. But from what I recall the milk kefir contains more cultures than the water kefir making the milk kefir a little stronger. 2,371 hits
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Re: How about kefir.............. by marieflores 9 y
Kefir health benefits are many. Kefir is a rich source of calcium, protein and B vitamins. It packs more probiotics than even yogurt, because kefir is made by fermenting milk with 10 to 20 different types of bacteria and yeasts, where yogurt usually is fermented with a handful of types, giving kefir a higher probiotic count in the final product. When you’re buying kefir, go with the plain version to avoid added sugars – then you can add your own pureed fruit for flavor at home. Have a look at the nutrition breakdown for nonfat kefir here. Make kefir at home- http://www.belmarrahealth ... 2,381 hits
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how often can you store grains in fridge without damaging... by alwayssick89 7 y
i was on a site called culturesforhealth and it said: We caution against keeping your kefir grains in the refrigerator on a regular basis. Cold temperatures slow the kefir grains down putting them into a state of hibernation. It can be very hard on kefir grains to regularly be put into and then come out of a state of hibernation. It can disrupt the yeast/bacteria balance and may also make the kefir grains less efficient and reliable. If caring for kefir grains every day or every other day isn’t an option, consider using a powdered kefir starter culture rather than kefir grains to mak ... 496 hits
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Re: my kefir is acting strange by edarmstrong23 15 y
Are you sure nothing you haven’t changed anything? Like accidentally changed the milk? rinse the kefir grains? used metallic dinnerware? Kefir grains can be a little fussy. And sometimes when they are moved out of their ”comfort zone” they go through a shock period or cycle, then after a while they adjust and return to normal. How long has your kefir grains been acting like this? ---------------------------------------------------------- Ed... currently munching on some kefir grains... and gulping down a glass of nice cold kefir. 2,314 hits
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Re: About to plunge into Kefir.. by geni1 14 y
if your going on vacation for a couple of weeks or so, what i do is take the kefir grains and put them in the fridge with fresh milk, this will slow them down so they dont eat the lactose as fast, then when you come home strain the grains, throw away the milk (when storing you dont have to use a lot of milk,as to not waste it) and put them in fresh milk and they will begin like normal. However.....if your gone for like a couple of months they will have to be rejuvenated. To rejuvenate them you will have to put them in fresh milk, let it sit for a day, strain them, throw away the kefir (n ... 1,810 hits
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I think I killed my kefir grains!!! by tasha92337 17 y View Entire Thread 5
I bought kefir grains covered in organic milk yesterday. Soon as i got home, I happen to wash them in tap water and put them in a glass jar with coconut water. This is my first time making coconut kefir. Then the next day i realiezed that I might have killed the kefir critters. :( Its day one and i do see some kefir grains floating to the top of jar. How can i save the kefir criters? Do i need to buy new kefir grains? I figure to wash the kefir grains b/c it was cover with milk and i was making coconut kefir. was i suppose to put the kefir grains in organic milk in the jar and p ... 4,359 hits
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