Long lasting skin infection (in depth description)
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- Long lasting skin infection (in depth description)
Hello Uny + forum,
this post is going to be a bit long and it’s about a stubborn, long-lasting, ugly-looking skin infection, that I am determined to beat with Uny’s and the forum’s help. This infection has been the focus of my resesearch and health efforts over the past couple of months.
A picture first:
This is not me, but my situation is very similar. In my case, all the red dots that you see on this person’s face, have/had pus on top of them. My face is even more densely populated with the dots than his. And unfortunately not only the face, but my whole body is affected to various degrees. – Worst are face, throat and chest.
1. THE COURSE OF THE INFECTION
- It started (at least to show up on my skin, maybe there was already stuff going on inside me long before), when my beard growth set in. I was about 16 and am now almost 27. So it began 10 years ago.
- The first area affected was my throat, not my face
- In the beginning there was no or only very little pus involved. So the red dots that appeared on my throat were without pus.
- The infection spread to my face (cheeks and chin). I don’t exactly recall when that was. Probably several months to a few years after first appearance on my throat.
- Insertion: Uny, you may remember that I mentioned, that there is a huge difference in the appearance of the infection when shaving as opposed to when not shaving. 1-3 days (I would actually say quite exactly 3 days) after shaving , the infection is worst, inflammation similar to the picture above. Shaving material/technique does not have an influence.
When I do not shave, it looks far better, but you can still see a redness on my face (definitely the infection), that does not belong there. Shaving as opposed to letting the beard grow and even as opposed to trimming the hair to minimal length, aggravates the infection substantially. It takes about a week after the point when the infection is worst (1-3 days after complete shaving) for the infection to calm down to its state when trimmed/unshaved.
- Only a few months ago did I shave my whole body for the first time (except hair of head). And about 3 days after shaving, the infection also started to show on the following parts: Chest (just as severe as throat/face), neck (almost as severe as face/throat/chest) lower abdomen (fairly populated), some areas of the inner elbows, some areas of inner thighs, some areas of legs.
Now I have shaved my whole body several times over the past few months and whereas the infection on my face and throat is always visible (as mentioned above: an unnatural redness that is always there, even when not shaving), all other above mentioned parts of the body look perfectly fine, when not shaved. – No redness or other hint of infection. So that means that I have no way of knowing whether/when the infection was also present in other skin areas than throat/face at any point during the past 10 years , since I never shaved my whole body (until a few months ago)
- After the infection had expanded from my throat to the face, the next worsening over a period of several months to years was that these areas got more densely affected and also with time more and more pus started to develop on top of the dots.
- Since I have always shaved the hairs on my neck I can tell that my neck got infected several months to years after my throat/face had already been severely affected.
- I cannot say much about the development on the other body parts (for the reasons mentioned above). But I can say that when I first shaved my entire body a few months ago, I was literally shocked and depressed at my situation. Especially the fact that the entire chest was just as severely affected as my throat/face.
Ok, that’s all I can say about the course of the infection. It seems like this thing is getting more severe over time and it’s high time to hit it hard.
2. TREATMENT + RESULTS SO FAR
- In February 2010, I started out with Echinacea tincture (the ones I got from you, Uny) and garlic internally (as you had suggested). The problem with garlic (about 10-15 cloves per day) was the lovely smell. I had to be among people and it made me feel very uncomfortable, so I quit after 3 weeks. The problem with Echinacea was that I quickly ran out of yours and have only now found a good source for Ech. Angustifolia and Ech. Purpurea where I live. So I am happy to be tincturing and using Echinacea very soon.
I did not see any noticeable results within the 3 weeks that I was using garlic + Echinacea + Tea Tree Oil topically. Too low doses and a too short period of treatment time (keeping in mind that I have had this infection for 10 years, which most likely contributes to its stubbornness) were probably the reasons for missing success.
- On March 25th I started to use the following:
o Allimed capsules: Pure Allicin extracted from garlic. I know it’s not natural, even if it comes from garlic and it was a compromise for me. There have been many credible reports on the success of this procuct with MRSA.
o Olivirex (from a company called Biobotanical research): it’s 100% natural and contains the following in capsule form: Olive Leaf Extract, Garlic, Goldenseal, Milk Thistle, St. John’s Wort, Uva Ursi, American Ginseng, Bladderwrack, Cordyceps, Dandelion, Noni, White Willow
o Biocidin (also from Biobotanicalresearch): it’s also 100% natural and consists of the following in liquid form: Vegetable Glycerin, Bilberry Extract, Noni, Milk Thistle, Echinacea, Goldenseal, Shiitake, White Willow Bark, Garlic Grapeseed Extract, Black Wallnut Hull and Leaf, Raspberry, Fumitory, Gentian, Tea Tree Oil, Galbanum Oil, Lavender Oil, Oregano Oil.
o A blend of various antibiotic essential oils
I came up with this treatment plan by reading an ebook called “MRSA Secrets revealed” by author Michelle Moore. She recommends these products.
To sum it up:
I was not 100% happy with taking the Allimed capsules, since it’s not natural. I quit them (having run out) 2 weeks ago and will not buy them again, because I feel the job can be done with a 100% natural approach: Cleansing + antibiotic herbs + antibiotic essential oils.
I feel very comfortable with taking Olivirex and Biocidin, since they are 100% natural and contain herbs that I know have highly antibiotic properties.
So since March 25th up until now, I have been taking the Allimed capsules (6 per day), Biocidin (3x 10 drops) and Olivirex (2x2 capsules).
I took the essential oils (bought in the US) for about 2 months (12 drops per day), then I ran out of them and only now I found a good source in Europe (France).
I have also been spraying my facial skin with Tea Tree Oil several times daily.
Here are my observations after doing the above treatment:
- The Pus (pus on top of red bumps) is 70-80% gone and the redness of the skin (=bacteria or fungi) is reduced in intensity. But you can still see the redness everywhere, where it was when I started treatment. So area-wise it’s just like before, but the way the area is infected has improved, since the pus is mostly gone and the redness is reduced.
- I have only been treating my face and throat topically (with tea tree oil). It’s interesting to see that the areas not treated topically (for example chest) seem to be improving just as well. This observation made me leave out the Tea Tree Oil for the face/throat, in order to see if internal treatment would be sufficient. This is not the case. The red bumps became more inflamed and more pus started to show on my face/throat. So now I am back to topical treatment for the face and throat.
- Another observation is that the bacteria/fungi seem to like wandering during treatment. When a certain area of my chest/stomach was looking fine yesterday, this same area is very inflamed today. I have made a very similar observation over the 6 months period of treating my acne by an elimination diet (no dairy, and specific foods that I had been tested to be allergic against). When the acne was consistently in the same areas before treatment, during treatment the pimples started to show up in areas they had never been at before and clear up in areas they had always been at. There was just a lot of movement during a period of 6 months, after which my acne could be considered cured.
A month ago I started taking Oregano (Vulgaris) essential oil at 8 drops per day, which has so far not made a difference.
My conclusions: I am seeing results, that make me confident that I can completely get rid of the infection. Since I am using several different “products” , I don’t know which has the biggest impact. I know I have to get COMPLETELY rid of the infection, because if I leave behind only a tiny amount, I am 100% sure (from my experience) that this tiny amount will develop to a huge amount and put me where I was before starting treatment. I feel like I have reached a plateau and either have to go up with dosages or incorporate other/more herbs +essential oils. Sometimes I think I just need to really go up with the doses and that might do the trick and get me cured within a few weeks. I also feel like essential oils could paly a major role in beating the infection. I am currently learning/collecting info in order to know how to safely and effectively use these oils.
3. FUTURE TREATMENT PLANS
- Of course I am working on my overall health by cleansing the colon, liver, kidneys, etc
- Only recently I started taking Usnea Tincture (self-made). According to my research it is one of the best herbal antibiotics and seems to be a specific for staph and strep infections. I think, I want to continue with the Usnea Tincture. I would love to go up with the dosage, but could not find any info on the safety of large doses (possibly over a period of a few weeks). If you know anything about Usnea and dosages, it would be great to hear.
- Now that I can have a constant supply of self-made Echinacea tincture, I want to use that as well.
- I want to continue with the Oregano Oil, since this has helped many with similar skin infections
- I would like to incorporate more/other essential oils, since I feel like they could be of great help.
- I am willing to try garlic again, but I would have to limit my intake period to a maximum of 4 weeks (due to the smell). Then I would take really big doses (I don’t know, maybe up to 40-50 cloves per day)
- I will finish my Biocidin and Olivirex, which I believe are good products, but I don’t always want to have to order from the US and have to deal with customs, shipping costs, etc.
- I have a couple of other herbal antibiotics in mind that can be incorporated (Olive Leaf Extract, Cat’s Claw, Propolis,..)
- I will continue spraying Tea Tree Oil on my skin and might incorporate other topical treatments (like essential oils). But I think the battle will be won with an internal approach.
4. MY THOUGHTS
- Swab tests have been taken 3 times in the past 5 years and they all came back negative for the fungi/bacteria tested.
- Since I have so far been able to get a well visible improvement with using antibiotic herbs, I am pretty sure it is some sort of bacteria or fungus, that I’m dealing with
- I feel like I must get rid of the infection at 100%. If there’s only a little bit of the bad guys left inside me, they will again spread over time
- I’ve read on barefoot’s forum and in other sources that the goal should be to have a body terrain that does not allow bad creatures to settle. Barefoot and others have suggested that my focus should not be on fighting the bad guys, but on creating a good body terrain. Ok, sure one should have a good body terrain, but to me it feels like that if someone is affected the way I am, the focus should definitely be on seriously taking up the fight with effective herbal antibiotics. Barefoot and 2 other people (not from curezone) have advised me to forget about herbal antibiotics and only concentrate on creating a good body terrain. I don’t know, but I heavily doubt that I can get rid of the infection by solely working on my body terrain and forgetting about herbal antibiotics altogether. To me it feels like I need to seriously address the ongoing infection with herbal antibiotics and as a long term goal I sould additionaly work on creating a body terrain, that makes it harder for such things to settle in the first place? Uny, enlighten me!
- Since medicine was unable to detect the exact bacteria/fungus in the swab tests and I don’t know any other way (be it in natural healing or not) of finding out what exactly I am dealing with, the following approach seems to make sense to me: As mentioned above it’s quite likely a fungal or bacterial infection. It seems to be a fact that some herbs are effective for some germs while other herbs are more effective for other germs. So in order to avoid treatment with herbs that are not effective for my infection, wouldn’t it make sense to use several (I don’t know maybe 5-10) antibiotic herbs at the same time, in order to increase the likelihood for success?
These seem promising to me (there are more, but just to start with): Echinacea, Usnea, Garlic, Olive Leaf, Oregano Oil, Propolis (of course not an herb). I’ve researched all of them enough (although I’m still lacking crucial knowledge of dosages and length of treatment time), to know that they are very promising for my situation.
I do know it’s important to take probiotics (like water kefir, Sauerkraut), especially when using such a “heavy” herbal antibiotic regimen.
- In my eyes there are exactly 3 factors that determine the success of an herbal antibiotic regimen: Use of the right herbs, use of the right dosages and use of the right period of treatment time. If one of these factors is not right, treatment will fail.
When considering these 3 factors, a few questions come to my mind:
o Maybe I should go very high on the dosages of all the above mentioned herbs in the hope that such high dosage will solve the problem in a matter of maybe a few to several weeks. But then I need to know exactly which dosages are still safe. And since I would be using several herbs, I also do not know, whether safety issues can arise solely out of the ACCUMULATIVE effect.
o Or maybe the key to success is not using very high dosages for a short period of time, but much more using normal to high dosages and DOING TREATMENT FOR A LONG TIME (Several months up to a year or even longer)
So maybe, Uny, with the knowledge you have and the info I have given you about my infection you can give some advise regarding the importance of dosages and the importance of treatment time. Sometimes I just have the fear of using wrong dosages (maybe just a little more would have done it) or discontinuing treatment, when maybe just a few more weeks would have made the difference. Since I have had this infection for so long and I know from my acne experience (took me 6 months to get rid of it) that success doesn’t come overnight, I am prepared to go on treatment for several months, maybe even longer than a year. But if the job can SAFELY be done within a few weeks of using high dosages, I would not say “no, thank you”.
- I am not sure, but to me it feels like the battle will be won with an internal approach. The fact that decrease and wandering of red dots on my chest is going on (now, since I’ve been using herbal antibiotics) without any external applications, is, what makes me think so. Along these lines I have also lately been thinking whether this is solely an internal problem and if yes, can any conclusions be drawn from the appearance on my skin as to what organ/system is mainly involved here?
- Right now, I feel like Usnea Tincture, Echinacea Tincture and Oregano Oil (and maybe garlic) will be at the core of my treatment. And I think maybe just the right doses of these 3 (4) can do the trick. I do not want to waste weeks/months with the right herbs, but with the wrong doses. On the other hand I want to know what I am doing and not use unsafe doses over an unsafe period of time. Regarding Echinacea,I know from you, it’s safe to take long term and you have given me dosage instructions, that I will have to look up again. Regarding Oil of Oregano, I am currently learning about (thanks to water01) safe and effective dosages and length of treatment time. Regarding Usnea Tincture,, the normal dose is 3-4 ml 3-4 times per day. I would like to go beyond that, but have not yet found the necessary info. Regarding garlic, I have read about a woman that took huge amounts for several weeks, I will do deeper research, but I can imagine taking 30-50 cloves per day for about 4 weeks. So before incorporating more herbal Antibiotics, I want to use the right doses of the 4 herbs mentioned here, in the hope that this will get me cured.
Ok, these questions have been on my mind all the time over the past few weeks/months. And I am very sure that I can completely get rid of the infection and I am so much looking forward to it. But I know it will most likely not be easy, since several factors are involved. But I am absolutely determined to win the battle and can’t wait for your precious advice.
Already now a BIG THANKY YOU,
healthiest of blessings,
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