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  • castor oil packs or even just heat   R Jason   12y
     
    I was wondering if anyone had tried the famous Edgar Cayce castor oil pack in preparation for a flush, or simply used a heating pad to help to relax the liver/gall bladder and dilate the ducts? I know he recommended doing castor oil packs for ”congested” livers and even for hepatitis and cirrhosis and interestingly, he would often recommend a ”series” of three packs to be done either on three consecutive days or over a period of week and then told people, after the third pack in the series, to take two teaspoons or two tablespoons (different for different people) of OLIVE OIL to ”cleanse t ...   [retrieve this message]
    • what are castor oil packs...I have great pain in the liver ...   #164443   12y
       
      what are castor oil packs...I have great pain in the liver area...I am set up for a liver biopsy...I have elevated liver enzymes...I have never drank any kind of alcohol and ... Dr. said one of the possibilities is Chirossis(spelling) ..Does anyone have any suggestions...thankkx   [End]
      • What are castor oil packs? ... ... Click on Liver Flush li...   Iris   12y
         
        What are castor oil packs? ... ... Click on Liver Flush link on this page, and then read it. ... There, you will find a link to castor oil packs. ... ... ... Read all about liver flush (liver cleanse) and about gradual liver cleanse. ... That will be your cure. ... Read also messages posted in those forums ... you will learn a lot ... ... ... Iris   [End]
        • What are the advantages of the slow or fast way to cleanse ...   believer   12y
           
          What are the advantages of the slow or fast way to cleanse liver? I had one cleanse and it wasn’t fun but I would ... do it again...and again to get rid of the crud in my gall bladder/ liver... I’m just glad I had the nerve to try it... ... ... Thanks to everyone and this site....believer   [End]
          • Re: I would like some help on liver flushs for gallsones   mollyh   10y
             
            Re: I would like some help on liver flushs for gallsones   [End]
            • I would purchase the book ”Can We Live 150 Years?”, by Mikh...   ltc   8y
               
              I would purchase the book ”Can We Live 150 Years?”, by Mikhail Tombak. There are detailed instructions on how to perform a liver cleanse, and gallbladder flush. If you have gallbladder pain, something that worked very well for me is a home remedy. First, try to stay away from fried and fatty foods, and eat plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables. I had horrible pain from gallstones, and was in constant pain for two weeks straight. My doctor would not prescribe any pain medication, so for two weeks I was miserable. When I finally broke down and told my mother about my problem, she told ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: castor oil packs or even just heat   hen   11y
       
      I use 4 teaspoons of Epsom Salts/ 12 oz of pure water about a half hour before consuming the juice of 4 lemons and and an equal quantity of olive oil. A close friend has found 1 teaspoon of epsom salts 15 minutes before the juice of one lemon and 1/2 cup of olive oil works well. Lying on your right side is a good way to start, but on your back, left side, and stomach offer variations for future flushes that might allow cleansing of areas that weren’t cleansed before.We both agree that as soon as you consume the juice and the olive oil you must recline. Heating pads are optional in my opi ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Just a little note of encouragement from none other than...   R LISA   12y
     
    Hello, Cookie. ... ... ... It’s been a couple of weeks since I visited this formum, and low and behold, I came across this message. The reason it’s been a couple of weeks is that I am feeling GREAT for the first time in a long time. I did my first four flushes one week apart. I was having a lot of anxiety about the constant discomfort on my right side. Like yourself, it was almost always there. Or if I couldn’t feel it, all I needed to do was stretch my body this way or that, or lay down in a certain position, and there it was again. It didn’t seem to correspond with fatty foods, and I never had ...   [retrieve this message]
    • HELP: congested liver   #164869   12y
       
      Hi, ... I believe that I have a congested liver. I don’t have a gall bladder because it was removed nine years ago. This liver deal is new for me or perhaps I’ve had it for a long time not realizing my problem. ... ... Can someone explain to me what a flush is; and what do I have to eat to flush my liver. ... ... Thanks, ... Cathy   [End]
  • Re: My Lab Tests are back   R John Cullison   12y
     
    Hi, there, ... ... Did your doctor tell you that she got the results back, or did she actually show you the results (i.e. the actual analysis, in written form) from the lab? ... ... It’s time for you to decide what you’re going to do. ... ... If you really want to go under the knife and get rid of your gall bladder, then go for it. ... ... I have nothing to lose or to gain either way. I’m not a member of the ”Save Our Gallbladders” religion, and I’ll still talk to you if you decide to have yours removed. *grin* ... ... I doubt that’s what you want, though, or you wouldn’t be here. ... ... If it were me, I’d do anothe ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Just completed flush #16 - 450 to 500 gallstones!   R Jay   12y
     
    ============================================ ... From: Jay Townsend ... Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 15:22:33 EDT ... Subject: [gallstones] Good Flush, but Healing Crisis ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... ... ... Hi: ... ... ... Just completed flush #16, begun on Sunday. Did the Clark style, but ... substituted the Lewis ingredients (a pint of oil with lemon juice) as I did ... with #15 that I reported earlier. Am reporting because of the results. ... ... ... Evicted about 450 to 500 gallstones. About 30 were the size of grapes (very ... large) plus one jumbo that was about an inch long by ľ of an inch wide. All ... of th ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Jay: This is one of my favorites!!   Southern Belle   12y
       
      I do believe the reason you had a fever was your body fighting those ugly critters!! ... ... But, with all of your previous cleanses, where were these stones? I have only completed 6 cleanses and got very few stones out this last time which lead me to believe I am ”clean.” Now I am not so sure. I am wondering if I have those kind of stones still lurking in my body!! ... ... How long did you wait in between cleanses? I wonder also if you had galbladder problems. ... ... Congratulations on your successful cleanse! ... ... Good luck and good health!!   [End]
    • Re: Just completed flush #16 - 450 to 500 gallstones!   Suzanne   12y
       
      You may have answered my questions. I have a 1.7 centimeter stone. I wondered if the cleanse could pass one that large. Was your large one about that size? Did you take anything like Chinese herbs to shrink it? ... ... ... Thank you ... ... Suzanne   [End]
    • Jay, ... Did you also do the 2 morning after doses of ...   #163488   12y
       
      Jay, ... Did you also do the 2 morning after doses of epsom salts or just the 2 in the evening? ... ... Thanks, ... hawkins   [End]
    • yeah,the first time i did it i woke up in the middle of the...   guitbitch   11y
       
      yeah,the first time i did it i woke up in the middle of the night freezing and nausious, then got up sweating later. i looked at myself in the mirror and was white as a ghost. i was still nausious in the morning and couldn’t handle the es. after i went to the bathroom a couple of times the sick feeling went away and i finished the es. it hasn’t happened since.   [End]
      • I’ve only done one flush so far-and I was white , nauseous ...   alisonl   11y
         
        I’ve only done one flush so far-and I was white , nauseous boiling hot and sweating too. ... ... It has put me off doing another. ... ... I got loads of grit-and then eventually a few stones. ... ... I don’t think I could face doing 16!!!!!!   [End]
      • I've never hurled before. Help?   coldinvegas   10y
         
        About every 3-4 months, gallbladder symptoms hit their peak. Previous flushes have been successful. Last week it was crisis time - this time I used ozone generator (w/oxygen tank) to enhance the olive oil. ... ... As usual, those last few sips of olive oil/grapefruit were yak to get down (queasy writing this). Followed protocol exactly. Woke up feeling bad. On the toilet (no stones) sweats, and eventually the oh-so-horrible throwing up ozonated olive oil. ... ... I’m scared to ever do another flush. How can you DRINK a pint? I’m using gcg & chinese bitters now, taking malic acid... look ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Just completed flush #16 - 450 to 500 gallstones!   grammy4002   7y
       
      My 22nd liver flush (clark’s every time) produced 413 stones the largest being the size of kix cereal. However, I have had 1 inch diameter before as well as lost of ”sluff” stuff. I have also had two identical things come out (I wish I had saved them for analysis)because I believe were tumors. They were black, round about 1 inch in diameter and 1/4 inch high, with a point in the middle with lines coming out of that point and going around to the back. Anyway, I saw a picture on a veterinary’s site just like what came out of me and it was a cancerous tumor from an animal. Anyway, after ...   [retrieve this message]
  • 5th flush   R LindaS   12y
     
    Thank you so much for this site.....I’m in my 5th flush and still passing stones and sand..... I feel sooo much better.....I’ve been suffering for 2 1/2 yrs. and this site and the wonderful people on it have saved my life.   [End]
  • 5th flush   R Nancy   12y
     
    I have just finished my 5th flush and oh my what a difference, after my 4th which I didnt pass many stones, I felt the pressure rise and my shoulder and right arm hurt a great deal so I knew I needed to flush again, what was even more strange was that my ankles had started to swell and I just felt lousy. I finished a bowel cleanse so I felt to do it again, and I passed a 11/2 inch calcified stone which I felt a bit when it was leaving the duct as a some pain and a wave of nausea. I then passed another one just a bit smaller and then hundreds of small pea size ones in tan and green. Inte ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Hello I was intrested in what flush you did and where could...   #165319   11y
       
      Hello I was intrested in what flush you did and where could I read about it. ... Thank you Bryan   [End]
    • I have two Gallstones since 1998 one is 2 centimeter & the ...   Tony123   11y
       
      I have two Gallstones since 1998 one is 2 centimeter & the other ... one 1 centimeter. Two year’s ago when I find out about this Gallstones flush with olive oil, Lemon juice & Epsom salt I did follow the instruction & since then I had four times this flush repeated but I still I the same two stones I just had an ultrasound last month. I am really very surprised about all these stories about 11” 1/2” stone passing which sounds impossible because Gallbladder is not even that big. I also really don’t wat to remove my gallbladder but so for I haven’t find the cure. So I ... am thinking to go ahead t ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Re: Stones being analyzed ???   R Nick   12y
     
    ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”ngwjuk” ... Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 22:53:10 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Laboratory test result ... Reply-To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... ... ... ... Hi everyone, I haven’t posted in a while, but some of you may ... remember that I have a friend who is a hospital doctor who offered to ... take a couple of the stones I got out by flushing, and get them ... tested in his lab. He was half expecting them to refuse because I ... wasn’t a patient at the hospital, but no problem! They were quite ... interested. The reason it has taken so long is because they are not ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:57:58 EDT ... Subject: Re: [galls...   R Jay   12y
       
      Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:57:58 EDT ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] Laboratory test result ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: JayTownsend@aol.com ... ... ... Hi: ... ... ... This is from http://www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver/Are_You_Stoned.asp ... ... ... and is a quote from Dr. Lewis who wrote: ””Are you ’Stoned’?” by chiropractor ... Claude M. Lewis, Edith Hiett and Leon Hiett. ... ... ... To quote from Dr Lewis: ... ... ... ”To clarify the situation and eliminate such questions, I sent a sample of ... gall stones to a medical analysis lab run by a Ph.D. who heads up the Science ... Department at Texas Woman’s University in Dent ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Hi Nick ... We still dont know why our bodies are producing...   Lesley Tracey   11y
       
      Hi Nick ... We still dont know why our bodies are producing these stones though do we??? ... A recent thought of mine was that they could be associated with the tape worm. ... Any thoughts??? ... ... Tracey B   [End]
    • I,m looking for a recipe for a flush when you don,t really ...   masmr69   11y
       
      I,m looking for a recipe for a flush when you don,t really know which organ to flush. How do you know which organ needs to be flushed. My mom has a lot of pain just at the rib cage on her left side. She says it feels like a knife is cutting her. the Dr cant find anything. There is definately something wrong.   [End]
  • 3rd Cleanse completed--Just Too Cool For Words   RN Southern Belle   12y
     
    I am completely blown away by this totally life-changing experience liver cleansing is doing for me!! Anges and Lillian, I wish I could see you guys to give you a big hug for having this website and helping me realize I can have a much better and happier lifestyle right at the tip of my finger! ... ... Since this was my 3rd cleanse, I feel like an expert now. (Ha) I did my first two cleanses two weeks apart. I waited three weeks before this 3rd cleanse because I wanted to complete a parasite cleanse. (no major results from the parasite cleanse that I’m aware of, but I do recall seeing some w ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Hi! ... It was so great to read your words! I’m just about ...   Skylah   12y
       
      Hi! ... It was so great to read your words! I’m just about to do my first cleanse and it really encouraged me reading your experiences! ... I totally agree with you about Agnes and Lillian, they are just amazing so good to have people like them! ... I’m slowly improving as well thank to this website! This is the biggest change in my health that I discovered this website and I’m so greatful for God for this! ... I told my mum about the liver cleanse and probably will do it together! ... I can’t talk about facts yet about cleanses but hopefully soon I can! ... Have you tried many recipes for liver cleanse or ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Hello Skylah!   Southern Belle   12y
         
        Thanks for your kind words!! You read my 3rd cleanse results. I wish you would read on to my 5th cleanse results. I have now completed seven cleanses as of last weekend. I no longer have any stones. I wrote on another post that after finishing the liver cleanses, it was a downer for me. I just enjoyed doing them so much that I didn’t want it to end. Now, I guess I will have to settle for once or twice a year. ... ... I have always used Dr. Clark’s recipe for my liver cleanses. Since I regard her as our ”leader,” I figure she knows best. I wish the best for you and your ”Mum.” I am sur ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: 3rd Cleanse completed--Just Too Cool For Words   #164612   12y
       
      I’ve enjoyed reading your positive and encouraging comments. I have done 3 flushes. I don’t exactly look in the toilet to check but had a colonics after the last one and she saw quite a few coming out and I actually saw a green ugly pea. I’m not feeling ”there” yet so I plan to do a few more flushes. Yup! olive oil and grapefruit juice is pretty nasty. I take a deep breath before drinking it all the way down. Does not bother me as much.   [End]
    • Hi. Congrats on your successful cleanse. Next time you cl...   #166520   11y
       
      Hi. Congrats on your successful cleanse. Next time you clease try putting the epsom salt in some empty gelatin capsules so ... you wont even taste it. Also, plug your nose and drink the mixture real quick with a straw. Peice of cake!!! ... ... good luck.   [End]
    • hi ... ... i wondering what protocol u used for liver flus...   vins1202   10y
       
      hi ... ... i wondering what protocol u used for liver flush. could you advise me about this? and have you heard about use an apple juice alone without epsom salt? ... one again what do u use for parasite cleanse? ... ... ... thanks   [End]
    • Having just completed the first one, oh, can I relate to yo...   elin   10y
       
      Having just completed the first one, oh, can I relate to your feelings on the taste. I have a new-found deep, deep respect for you all! ... ... Oh well, it worked ... and since I have a mother with a bad case of ”fatty liver” (probably looks exactly like the stuff that’s started to exit mine) who suffered an extremely painful liver biopsy, I’m motivated. And I love to read stuff like this! ...   [End]
      • I am using the Moritz protocol (6 days of apple juice, epso...   gallmanpa   9y
         
        I am using the Moritz protocol (6 days of apple juice, epsom salts and olive oil/grapefruit on the 6th day) and will be doing my 4th cleanse on Thursday (with the full moon). I am slowly but surely feeling better and better. I find that by 10pm on the 6th day after eating fruit all day that I cannot wait for the oil/juice mix to fill my stomach. To anyone considering the liver cleanse, please have a colonic the day of/before AND 2-3 days after the cleanse and drink the kidney tea after the 3rd or 4th cleanse. As for the parasite cleanse(Clarke’s protocol), I am not completely sure of t ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Testimonial   #163295   12y
     
    Testimonial By: Gene Saunders ... from ... http://www.joyfullivingservices.com/liverflushtestimonial.html ... ... ... I am a sixty-two year old male, six foot three inches, and one hundred and eighty pounds. I went back to my log book and found out I have done sixteen liver flushes and my wife (Bobbi) has done twenty. ... ... The tenth flush resulted in the largest number of stones (fifty lima been size stones in a grand total of four hundred (the rest were pea to rice size)). ... ... My sixth flush resulted in the largest stone (as large as the end of my thumb). Bobbi no longer gets stones and will probably o ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Thank you for your testimonial is very helpful. ... ... I ...   R Mary   12y
       
      Thank you for your testimonial is very helpful. ... ... I am in the stage of reading all the posts to try to learn from other’s mistakes and sucesses. ... Unfortunatly, many people don’t give details of the methods that they used, just focus on the ... number of stones and how yucky they felt doing it. ... ... While those facts are useful, I wish more people would list things that they felt made a difference ... between their many flushes. Us newtimers could learn a lot from experinced flushers (lack ... of a better word) ... ... I do like the idea of going your own way, and experimenting a little. Every person ...   [retrieve this message]
      • re:testimonial (I am so sorry for all the complaining abou...   Mary   12y
         
        Mary. ... ...   [End]
        • Re: re:testimonial (I am so sorry ...   R Linda   12y
           
          ... ... Mary, ... I was eating only potatoes for a long time. Have you tried NAET treatments. It has helped me add a lot of foods. Good luck! ... ... ...   [End]
          • Yep, I did this for 1 year 1x/week and all allergies came b...   Mary   12y
             
            Yep, I did this for 1 year 1x/week and all allergies came back. ... ... ... ... Mary, ... I was eating only potatoes for a long time. Have you tried NAET treatments. It has helped me add a lot of foods. Good luck! ... ... ...   [End]
            • Mary- Please read this letter!   Terry   12y
               
              Dear Mary, ... ... I know exactly what you are going through! I am 23 years old and have been ill for 5years. It started off after a surgery- I developed chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia, which led to irritable bowel and finally multiple chemical sensitivity.I tried to ignore it for the first year or so- I was either in bed or going to the doctor- none of whom helped me one bit. I tried every vitamin, herb, naturopath- nothing, I only got worse and broke. I could not leave the house or even stay in the house-I WAS SO ILL AND WANTED TO DIE EVERY DAY. I started NAET about a year and a half a ...   [retrieve this message]
              • Terry, ... ... Thank you so much for your compassion. I n...   Mary   12y
                 
                Terry, ... ... Thank you so much for your compassion. I need to know there is someone out there that cares. I have not been on this site since April. ... ... I am up in weight, up to 105 the had another bout with kidney stones and back down to 101. I wish I knew what to do. ... ... I was not feeling too awfully well, lots of back pain, knee pain, foot pain and trouble urinating, fatigue and lots of other stuff. I decided not to do any cleanses (kidney or gallbladder) until I got up to at lest 105-110. Cleanses make me loose weight and I am a bit of ... a toothpick already. But I felt so horrible. I ...   [retrieve this message]
                • avoid parsley if kidneys are bad not the liver Re: Mary- Pl...   anonymouse   12y
                   
                  Sorry, on the previous post I typed, the book said to avoid parsley if your liver was bad. I must have been tired, and typed liver but it is the kidneys I sould have typed. ... ... So again I am sorry. Avoid parseley if your kidneys are weak. ... ... Mary   [End]
                • Re: Mary- Please read this letter!   R #1976   12y
                   
                  Mary - Sorry to hear of your miserable situation with sensitivities. Can I suggest you rethink you bowel cleanse decision? This is how I finally got free of all sensitivities allergic reactions regular migraines and food intolerances. ... ... Magnesium oxide powder is a simple effective npn irritant bowel cleanse. I had multiple sensitivities too - and horrible weight gain. I speeded the process up wonderfully by going to a colonic hydrotherapist for four sessions after the first week on magnesium oxide. You clean out without having any ’healing crises’ symptoms. ... ... It’s taken me ages ...   [retrieve this message]
              • 4 1/2 years ago, I suffered from severe mycotoxin poisoning...   anna   12y
                 
                4 1/2 years ago, I suffered from severe mycotoxin poisoning - from eating 2 heavy doses of mouldy peanuts (aweek apart). ... ... My liver was, unbeknown to me at the time, in massive shock - it was, I now realise, damaged from the onslaught. Needless to say I was and still am extremely ill. ... ... Cutting a long story of painful misdiagnosis’ short, I have now come to realise the enormity of the liver damage mycotoxins cause. ... ... I am presently allergic to most, if not all, foods! My inclination is to try a liver cleanse - as no doubt,I have alot of heavy toxins / bacteria in my poor, struggling li ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Testimonial   Mary   12y
         
        My advice is to go to www.hacres.com they are vegans mostly and eat raw vegables and fruit, barley green, carrot juice, B12 and sunshine for vitamin D. maybe if you followed that for a year then do the liver gallbladder flush, I have done that as I could not eat anything else or I was sick, raw fruit and veg stays down. I am now ready for the flush,   [End]
        • I know some are veggitarians, but I don’t think for me it i...   Mary   12y
           
          I know some are veggitarians, but I don’t think for me it is good. ... ... I found this book called Nourishing Traditions and it explins what ... native people ate in the past and they had very few health problems ... and straight teeth. A web site to check out describing this info is located at www.westonaprice.org. I have been following their diet advice for 1 year. ... ... _____________________________ ... My advice is to go to www.hacres.com they are vegans mostly and eat raw vegables and fruit, barley green, carrot juice, B12 and sunshine for vitamin D. maybe if you followed that for a year then ...   [retrieve this message]
  • possible solutions to flush problems - (my personal opinion...   Mary   12y
     
    My ideas and opinions on how to make this work for me! ... ... Keep in mind I may be wrong, I am no expert. ... ... Problems and possible solutions to them, feel free to add your solutions. Your ... ideas could be better than mine and probably are. I think we all have the same ... concerns, so we should share our solutions and/or ideas. ... ... I also think people should also be more descriptive when naming their thread. ... Gallbladder cleanse as a topic does not tell much. ... ... The Epsom salt thing is yucky mom!: ... I don’t plan to do this if at all possible. If something tastes that yucky, I don’t ... think God ...   [retrieve this message]
    • ... Ive ordered the gold coin grass tinctuer and the chanc...   Chuck   12y
       
      ... Ive ordered the gold coin grass tinctuer and the chanca piedra extact to help break up and soften the stones. I just received the chanca today and should receive the other soon. I’ll let you know how they work. ... ... Also washing down the lemon juice and oil with pineapple juice helps. ... Fasting for two days before and one day after helps too. ... ... I hope to make my next cleanse is more efficient with the herbs.My first cleanse was great but my second I still felt horrible. So I think my third will be better with the herbs. ... ... Chuck ... ...   [End]
      • ... On my first cleanse about 6 months ago..I mixed the lem...   Believer   12y
         
        ... On my first cleanse about 6 months ago..I mixed the lemon with the olive oil and then drank it.. the next day the ... results I had were just a lard like substance that the lemon and olive oil had congealed into.. Don’t mix these two ... together, they must be drank seperately. Also it was harder to get down that mixture than drinking them seperately. ... It was awful to try them together...puke...it was horrible.. ... I gave up after that experience and decided this was all a farce..and it didn’t work at all. I am so glad I decided to ... try again by doing it according to the directions better. I ...   [retrieve this message]
    • I took almost a whole bottle of gold coin grass. Before th...   Nicky   12y
       
      I took almost a whole bottle of gold coin grass. Before that I ... took the Circuma and Coptis at night. The first flush, nothing ... happened...then two nights ago, I did another flush using Olive oil ... Cold Pressed that I purchased from a health food store...grapefruit ... juice and lemon juice mixed...a cup and one half. It was awful ... tasting. I felt a little sick to my stomach but kept my head up and ... drifted off to sleep...before I got to sleep, I could feel something ... moving that felt like marbles on my right side. Yesterday I had ... alot of pea sized yellow things pass...and this morning ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Herbs to help the cleanse to be more successful   Mary   12y
     
    Liver cleansing herbs ... ... Before my first flush in october 2001, I used chinese herbs to help with the flush. ... I purchased them from http://sensiblehealth.com/prime.html The following are the herbs ... that I used: ... ... Chinese bitters: used to decongest the liver. Liver needs to be decongested because ... if bile is restricted, it can not push out the stones. ... ... Coptis: To stimulate bile flow. ... ... Gold coin grass: Used after the chinese bitters and coptis regimen is over. Used ... to crush and soften the stones. It can be used for up to a year if gallbladder flush ... can not be done. ... ... Curcuma ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Hi Mary. ... I saw your post and read about your avoidance ...   HM   12y
       
      Hi Mary. ... I saw your post and read about your avoidance of applejuice and epsom salts due to your candida. I also have candida pretty badly. I understand avoinding the applejuice but why the epsom salts?? ... Do you think that the olive oli and lemonjuice will be enough? ... HM   [End]
    • Try to find a chiropractor or naturopath in your area who d...   #166520   11y
       
      Try to find a chiropractor or naturopath in your area who does the nambudripad allergy elimination technique (naet). It works. ... It will permanently remove your allergies. You can do a search on the web and you should be able to find the web page that ... has a physician locator. Good luck. Hope this helps. It was a miracle for me as i was allergic to everything too! Not anymore. ...   [End]
  • do not use apple juice if you have candida, I did and paid ...   Mary   12y
     
    Gallbladder flush and candida ... ... Apple juice ... do not use the apple juice if you have candida. I did (mistake!) ... ... Apple juice is used to help the bile move. It was very good at that. I moved ... a lot of liquid yellow stuff. But my candida went way out of control. (I got ... dizzy and extremely confused among other things) I really did not still think ... I had a problem with it. ... ... I did my first flush in October and I am still fighting with candida. ... ... ... Taheebo ... I am now using a herb (a bard of a tree actually) called Taheebo (or pau ’d arco) ... to control my candida. I am thinking much mor ...   [retrieve this message]
  • purpose of each gallbladder cleanse ingredient listed here   Mary   12y
     
    Are you curious and wonder why am I drinking this wierd potion? ... I was so I researched it, thought you might be interested as well. ... ... source of most of this info: ... http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/Are_You_Stoned.asp ... ... first the function of bile: ... Neutralises acid ... breaks down fat ... it is a natural laxitive ... ... ... Apple juice: ... Malic acid in juice cleanse the live because it is a solvent for bile ... ... Lemon juice: ... The bile will rush out to neutralise the acid ... ... Olive oil: ... The bile will rush out to help digest the fat. ... ... Epsum salt: ... To open up the bile ducts. ... ...   [retrieve this message]
  • gallbladder problems   #165741   12y
     
    My homeopath recomended to have a liver & gallbladder flush, I am wondering even while i am in pain should i do it. she said that if that does not help i should have a sonogram or scan done to verify what the problem is. any suggestions?   [End]
    • Where is the pain located? If it is in your lower ribcage a...   daocmom   11y
       
      Where is the pain located? If it is in your lower ribcage and you feel pin in your upper back like under your shoulderblade, it may be gallstones/gallbladder problems. I had 4 very bad attacks from stones becoming lodged, so be prepared that this may happen with a cleanse, but if you follow the liver and kedney cleanse first and clear the way for the stones, you shouldn’t be in pain when you pass them. Everyone is different, so try it, but if you have too much pain, don’t wait and suffer, go see a doctor and get the ultrasound to see how bad the stones are. I waited too long and developed ...   [retrieve this message]
  • what foods will prevent.. stop gallstone formation, flush l...   alan   12y
     
    Also besides the diet portion, why do some people accumulate som many stones and others just have a few? What causes this big production difference? I think that even if two people had the same diet, one would be worse..so what is making this disparity. ... ... The liver and gall ducts in the body are in thousands. It is said that one takes 12-14 years to clean them out. I read that each flush only cleans out one duct at a time which would mean you need a thousand flushes or more to totally clear everything out. One the other hand, people seem to clean out after a few dozen flushes which s ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Foodwise, what are all the products that contribute to gall...   Mary   12y
       
      Foodwise, what are all the products that contribute to gallstone formation...and ... even if a person does not eat them..could they develop? ... ... Cesareans: a big cause of Gallstones because the area becomes paralyzed. ... ... Stress: congests the liver and constricts the blood vessels. ... ... lack of exercise: This stagnates the system ... ... personal comment: ... Digestion always suffers when there is stress because when you are under stress, ... the blood that should be in the intestines and other digestion organs, rushes to the ... muscles such as the legs so you can run from that bear. Never mind their ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Hi ... ... I am little worried about the suggestion that i...   Jasmine   12y
         
        Hi ... ... I am little worried about the suggestion that is necessary to eat a high meat diet to obtain the right balance of oils to prevent gallbladder problems as this could cause concern to vegetarian and vegan readers who may be worried about their diet as a result. ... ... I understand that there is some concern in the US (I am from the UK) about vegans suffering from a high rate of gallbladder problems. This is not the case in the UK with BUPA (a large health organization) finding that very few UK vegans suffer from these problems and those that do (like myself) have eaten a high dairy diet as ...   [retrieve this message]
      • I probably couldn’t agree less with your suggestion that ea...   S Fowler   11y
         
        I probably couldn’t agree less with your suggestion that eating close to bedtime is bad. I can’t even get to sleep without a full,... very full stomach. When I have a full stomach, I sleep like a rock. Raising my own beef,I eat lots of meat too. ... ... I’ve been doing this all my life, and would put my health up for comparison against most people’s, half my age. What don’t I eat? Breakfast.   [End]
  • Best Olive Oil for flush??   Jim   12y
     
    What is the best tasting ”light” organic olive oil to use for a flush? Where to buy in USA or preferably online. Thanks.   [End]
  • Liver/gall cleanse or not?   Dennis   12y
     
    I’m just about getting ready to finish the Master Lemon cleanse of 12 days. I was just wondering if anyone can tell me if I can begin to do the Liver/gall cleanse at this point and try to remove stones? or should I wait for some time and try it at a later date?   [End]
    • I’m just about getting ready to finish the Master Lemon cle...   Espen   12y
       
      I’m just about getting ready to finish the Master Lemon cleanse of 12 days. I was just wondering if anyone can tell me if I can begin to do the Liver/gall cleanse at this point and try to remove stones? or should I wait for some time and try it at a later date? ... ... ... Dennis, ... ... the best time is immediately after the fast. ... ... The longer fast, the stronger flush. ... ... That way, the flush will be strongest possible, beacuse you have not been eating fats for 12 days, and if you now take a lot of fat, liver will produce huge amount of bile and that bile will flush everything on it’s way. ... ... Esp ...   [retrieve this message]
  • [gallstones] SURGERY-STONEFREE   Barry   12y
     
    To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ... Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 03:03:19 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] SURGERY-STONEFREE ... ... ... ... Dear Stoners, ... ... ... I want to say ’thank you’ for everyones support in this group over ... the last 4 months. Rachel, Lu, Susan, Dale, Suzanne, Agnes, and many ... many more. I had surgery last Thursday and finally got my gallbladder ... out. It turns out that my gallbladder walls were diseased and would ... have produced more stones anyway. The walls were 4mm instead of the ... normal 2mm. There was a lot of preforming sandy grainy stuff stuck ... into the ro ...   [retrieve this message]
    • To: ... From: ”Dale Williams” ... Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2...   Dale   12y
       
      To: ... From: ”Dale Williams” ... Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 06:45:06 -0700 ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] SURGERY-STONEFREE ... ... ... Barry; ... ... ... I’m sure this surgery was a very difficult choice for you to make, and ... especially considering the number of flushes you’ve attempted to get this ... particular stone out. But, I believe you made the right choice in getting ... your gallbladder removed, and especailly so considering the condition it was ... in. Flushing certainly has worked for a lot of people who have the ... cholesterol type of stones, but these calcified types are just plain ... difficult to move by c ...   [retrieve this message]
    • ... From: ”Claudia L. Meydrech” ... Date: Mon, 15 Apr 20...   Claudia   12y
       
      ... From: ”Claudia L. Meydrech” ... Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:03:00 -0500 ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] SURGERY-STONEFREE ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... ... ... Barry - I could sense from your emails that you were going to do this, ... it was getting discouraging for you. I was going to write and say why ... don’t you just get it taken out, you’ve worked hard! Now you can move ... on and start focusing on other things..things other than your insides. ... There a world of people that need us out there, and sometimes, just ... sometimes, I think we can be a little too ”body focused”, but that’s just ... my two ...   [retrieve this message]
    • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: Rachd1961@aol.com...   rachel   12y
       
      To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: Rachd1961@aol.com ... Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 23:50:26 EDT ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] SURGERY-STONEFREE ... ... ... Barry ... ... I just wanted to say how glad I am that everything went well. I know it was ... a difficult decision for you to make, to go through with the surgery. I know ... that IF you could have accomplished what you wanted through flushing you ... would have preferred that. So I know it wasn’t an easy road to take. But ... I support your decision to do what you feel was best for YOU and I’m very ... glad to know that everything went well and that you ...   [retrieve this message]
    • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: Adrienne McLaughl...   Adrienne   12y
       
      To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: Adrienne McLaughlin ... Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 05:47:14 -0700 (PDT) ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] SURGERY-STONEFREE ... ... Hi Barry, ... ... I want to Ditto Rachel’s post and Agnes’. After having gone through what you have, you have so much valuable experience and knowledge you can share with others who are suffering....so, I hope you’ll stick around. Also, I’m sure you’re liver is healthier for all that flushing! I hope all continues to go well with your recovery, and hope you know that you can always find the support you need, here. Thanks for letting us ...   [retrieve this message]
    • To: ... From: ”Karma Tucker” StoneFree Barry. ...   Karma   12y
       
      To: ... From: ”Karma Tucker” StoneFree Barry. ...   [End]
    • I’ve just stumbled onto this website looking for info on a ...   Stephen   12y
       
      I’ve just stumbled onto this website looking for info on a gallbladder flush. I’ve recently been in extreme pain and had to go to ER 5 times in the last month. Finally I was told I had to have ... gallbladder surgery. I don’t want to have this surgery for many reasons but after reading a few dozen of these letters and info on the cleanses themselves it seems impossible. If I understand correctly, you have to do a parasite cleanse, a kidney cleanse, eat a certain way B4 and after the flush and then there’s zapping, which ... I don’t have a clue what that is. Needless to say I’m very discouraged a ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Stephen, ... ... as you have an acute gallstones problem, ...   Iris   12y
         
        Stephen, ... ... as you have an acute gallstones problem, the best for you is to do the flush immediately. ... No need to wait, if you are already getting pain very often. ... ... ... ... The slow procedure (parasite cleanse, a kidney cleanse, eat a certain way) is for people who have time - more chronic or different problem and not an acute problem ... and also for people who absolutely need parasites cleanse like people with cancer, AIDS, diabetes ... ... ... Just do the flush ... you have nothing to loose ... surgery can wait ... but if you do it now ... it is too late for flushing gallbladder ... ... ... The ch ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Dear Mary, ... ... I know exactly what you are going ...   Stephen   12y
           
          Dear Mary, ... ... I know exactly what you are going through! I am 23 years old and have been ill for 5years. It started off after a surgery- I developed chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia, which led to irritable bowel and finally multiple chemical sensitivity.I tried to ignore it for the first year or so- I was either in bed or going to the doctor- none of whom helped me one bit. I tried every vitamin, herb, naturopath- nothing, I only got worse and broke. I could not leave the house or even stay in the house-I WAS SO ILL AND WANTED TO DIE EVERY DAY. I started NAET about a year and a half a ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Scar Tissue PSC   bricklayertom   12y
     
    I’m new to the group, been here about 1 month reading about what other people have to say and ask. And I thought I would present my problem with everybody and hopefully someone could help me. 15 years ago the liver doc told me my liver ducts were closing shut from scar tissue what they call Primary Sclerosing Cholangitis. They determind this by a test called an ercp where doc runs a scope down my throat with a camera and into the duct. I’m thinking he took a tissue sample to verify this but not sure. The last time I had this test done the doc said the bile was bearly dripping out. Because ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Scar Tissue PSC/colitic or crohns   R sue   12y
       
      I also have either colitis or crohns. I’ve been told that I have both. Sometimes you just have to feel lucky. And I was wondering if the salt would bother the colitis? So I was wondering if anybody in group tried the flush that has colitis and how you made out? I was also wondering if anybody in group has PSC and has tried the flush and how they made out? I know someone in the group can HELP. Thanks Tom ... I also have either colitis or crohns. I’ve been told that I have both. Sometimes you just have to feel lucky. And I was wondering if the salt would bother the colitis? So I was wonderin ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Scar Tissue PSC   R anonymouse   12y
       
      And I was wondering if the salt would bother the colitis? So I was wondering if anybody in group tried the flush that has colitis ... And I was wondering if the salt would bother the colitis? So I was wondering if anybody in group tried the flush that has colitis ... And I was wondering if the salt would bother the colitis? So I was wondering if anybody in group tried the flush that has colitis ... ... ... ... Tom, ... I have colitis and have done three flushes. Four doses of Epsom Salts was too much for me I had irritated colon for about a week after flush. I cut my ES to 3 doses instead of 4. I o ...   [retrieve this message]
  • I flush tonight   UserX   12y
     
    ... I just took a huge glass with mixture of olive oil and grapefruit juice. ... Then, I took a little bit more juice to wash mouth and tubing. ... It was about one and a half cup altogether, half oil, half juice. ... (Hulda’s recipe, as usually) ... ... I will let you know if I get any stones tomorrow. ... ... I got a lot of stones on my previous cleanse. I took some photos, but I still didn’t develop negatives. ... ... Best of health ... Agnes ...   [End]
    • Flush update: ... ... Morning after. ... ... I have been ...   UserX   12y
       
      Flush update: ... ... Morning after. ... ... I have been visiting toilet 2 times, and all I got is water and some food rests. No stones. ... ... I use colander inside toilet bowl to catch everything bigger then 2 mm. ... ... ... I feel I will have to visit toilet few more times. Liquid inside of me is moving forward.... ... ... Best of health ... Agnes ... ...   [End]
      • Update - flush is over   UserX   12y
         
        25th flush update: ... ... It is late night now. ... ... Have been several times more visiting toilet. ... ... NOT a single stone! Not even a grain of sand! Nothing. Only water and few small particles of undigested food (apple pits, apple rind, and other hard to digest rests ...). ... ... ... I think my liver is clean. ... ... In Januarry, on my 23rd flush, I got few stones out. ... I thought my liver is clean. ... ... 20 days ago, on my 24th flush I got 20-30 stones. Read my message entitled: ... ”My xx liver flush experience - ”breaking the rules””” ... ... ... So, I will wait several months for my next flush. ... ... If I counted w ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Sand or sludge or chaff?   tisha   12y
           
          Hi Agnes, ... ... Thanks for sharing your results. ... ... I have a question. Is sand the same thing as sludge? Is it also the same thing as chaff? ... ... When I have done flushes, I have not always gotten out stones, either. I have gotten out some kind of crud. I read about sludge in a gall bladder and wondered if that is what came out. ... ... Also, I did my cleanse a couple of days ago and yesterday (this is gross) I had a green BM. I don’t know why this happened. It freaked me out. I didn’t anything green. I also didn’t drink my fourth drink of ES because it really gives me diarreha and no s ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Tisha...I just read your note on the ’green’ stuff afterwar...   Julia   12y
             
            Tisha...I just read your note on the ’green’ stuff afterward. has anyone responded to you with what this could be? The same thing happened with me. For about 3 days it was just spinach green. I share the ’scared’ feeling with you. ... Let me know! Thanks. ... Julia   [End]
  • Second Cleanse Not As Good   Tess   12y
     
    I completed my second liver cleanse last night/this a.m. I did exactly what I did with my first one, with the exception of fasting on the day of the purge vs. eating a non-fat breakfast and lunch. I did drink apple juice (pasteurized, though) until 2 p.m. ... ... I was disappointed in the results this time (maybe I shouldn’t be). The first time I tried it, I had absolutely no discomfort (except a little rectal irritation, obvious), I passed many stones including some that were jellybean sized and maybe one that was even larger than that, and after it was over I felt more energetic than I hav ...   [retrieve this message]
    • I have done six cleanses so far. I found that after my fir...   tisha   12y
       
      I have done six cleanses so far. I found that after my first cleanse I had the same problem with a sore bottom. It seemed that the results I got were after the 3rd ES in the morning. That is when I seemed to flush out stones. The 4th ES just made me have diarreha all afternoon and my bottom was really sore by then. I have eliminated the 4th ES since my first cleanse. My bottom feels better. ... ... I only got out four stones on my second cleanse. They were about 1 cm, though. Bigger than the first ones which were pea size or smaller. It seems that every cleanse results has been differe ...   [retrieve this message]
  • pain after flush   Em   12y
     
    I am having pain in the middle of my stomach and side 15 hrs. after my second flush. Do you think this is gallstones or maybe gas from ES? Is it possible to pass stones this long after the flush?   [End]
  • TXHERBALORE - recipe for your liver flush??   Em   12y
     
    Would you post your flush using cascara sagrada, lemon juice and olive oil? It sounds like a good alternative to ES which I have a big problem with. Did you pass stones? Thanks.   [End]
  • Second Gallbladder flush sucessful and update!!!   KJ   12y
     
    ... Posted originally to bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com ... ... ================================== ... To: bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”KJ” ... Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 13:17:26 -0400 ... Subject: [bowelcleanse] Second Gallbladder flush sucessful and update!!! ... ... ... Hi all, ... ... I just finished my second gallbladder flush and it went well. I actually ... think I passed more stones, and they are definitely bigger. However, I did ... have a terrible time sleeping. I couldn’t get to sleep for 4 hours after I ... took the olive oil drink and I was nauseated and cranky for hours! I ... followed the instructions ...   [retrieve this message]
    • ... Posted originally to bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com ......   Em   12y
       
      ... Posted originally to bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com ... ... ================================== ... To: bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”KJ” Posted originally to bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com ... ... ================================== ... To: bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”KJ” ... ================================== ... To: bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”KJ” ================================== ... To: bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”KJ” To: bowelcleanse@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”KJ” From: ”KJ”   [End]
    • Update: 3 stones about 1 inch in diameter!   KJ   12y
       
      ... ... From: ”hazelpone” ... Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:18:10 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Second Gallbladder flush sucessful and update ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... ... ... ... Hi all, ... ... ... I just finished my second gallbladder flush and it went well. I ... actually think I passed more stones, and they are definitely bigger. ... ... ... Well, I thought I was done with flushing. I had even started ... cleaning the house! So all of a sudden, I get an urge to purge and I ... go. Well, I do my inspection of the toilet and see 3 stones about 1 ... inch in diameter! I couldn’t believe it! I also notice ...   [retrieve this message]
  • The day after my cleanse and my 3month old   R JeanMarie   12y
     
    Well Last night I did the cleanse and drank nearly the whole pint of olive oil (had about a 1/2 cup left) I was pretty nauseas all night but did not have any pain otherwise. This morning I had about 20 small stones. I was amazed to actually be able to see them clearly. Early this afternoon I had a few more bigger ones. I am pleased with this cleanse so far. I have had no problems with my son at all. He even nursed more than usual last night. I will try another cleanse in about 2-3 months thank you for the information. ... JeanMarie   [End]
    • JeanMarie ... ... ... JeanMarie, ... ... Congratulation ...   UserX   12y
       
      JeanMarie ... ... ... JeanMarie, ... ... Congratulation on your courage and your succesful flush. ... There are no many nursing woman who dare to flush liver. ... ... ... According to many experts, it is recommended to flush at least 4 times with 2 weeks a part, to get out most of the stones as soon as possible. ... ... By doing so, you prevent possible problems that sometimes occure as a result of stones moving inside intrahepatic bile ducts and possibly causing total blockage of excretion of bile from some parts of liver. ... ... So, I would recommend you to actually repeat flush at least 3 more times, to get your li ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Is an enema necessary prior to the liver cleanse?   Tess   12y
     
    Just wondering if it is necessary/helpful to do an enema prior to the liver cleanse? If so, what are the benefits to this. I read several e-mails that mentioned an enema and wondered if that area of the body needs cleansing in order to pass everything more smoothly. ... ... I am attempting my second cleanse (beging tomorrow). My first one was a great success (about 3 weeks ago), although the benefits from it (i.e., energy increase, relief from constipation and bloating) seem to have ”worn off”. This is part of the reason I am attempting a second cleanse. I passed many (did not take time to ...   [retrieve this message]
    • I think that after a cleanse what you would want to do to k...   JeanMarie   12y
       
      I think that after a cleanse what you would want to do to keep the energy would be to stay away from the junky kinds of food (like sugar and fatty fried stuff) I think a cleanse every 3 months should be a norm though. I just did a cleanse and I did not do the enema and I did get around 30 stones out so far. I also did a light cleanse about 3weeks ago and didn’t really pay any attention to if there were any stones at all, ,I did not do an enema then either. ... JeanMarie   [End]
      • I use an enema regularly before the flush to insure any was...   alan   12y
         
        I use an enema regularly before the flush to insure any waste that resides will be evacuated. It frees up the system. Metaphorically, I would compare it to sorting dross and waste in a landfill. It’s harder to search for trash at the bottom when the top layer still remains;therfore, cleaning the first things are needed to reach the last section. Similarly but in direct contrast, the enema clears the bottom layer and then proceeds to the top i.e. the oldest to the most current material. You can’t get to the last phase without going through a prior one. Getting the liver flush to perfo ...   [retrieve this message]
        • This is my very first time posting, but I have been reading...   VespaChick   5y
           
          This is my very first time posting, but I have been reading this site for years and doing liver flushes for at least 4 years. They helped me tremendously! Just did my first in a long while tonight along with some rather intensive colon cleansing (I use a bucket enema repeatedly with some ACV, Apple Cider Vinegar in some of the flushes). ... ... It is true that toxins get stirred up around your body when you are doing a flush--that’s why it can be a bit difficult to sleep. Be sure to take 8 capsules of ornithine 500mg each as Hulda Clarke prescribes! This makes a huge difference! But, I find it ...   [retrieve this message]
          • You do realize that you responded to a seven year old threa...   msteve666   5y
             
            You do realize that you responded to a seven year old thread and the most recent post on any of them is six years. ... ... Never-the-less, few that I have read including me, have ever touched the Ornithine. ... ... I do intensive cleansings after the first diarhea, the next day. (And once a week, regardless) A comination of Enemas, SWFs nd ES.   [End]
  • Doing my sixth liver cleanse tonite   tisha   12y
     
    I’m having a hard time getting down the olive oil this time. Someone mentioned drinking a cup of oil :( to make the flush more effective as opposed to 1/2 a cup. Does anyone have an opinion on this? ... ... Tisha ... ...   [End]
    • Results of sixth cleanse-not too exciting   tisha   12y
       
      I finished my cleanse today and didn’t get out any stones. That has happened once before and it’s so disappointing. In my earlier post I mentioned how hard it was to drink the 1/2 cup of oil but then decided to drink an extra 1/4 cup just for a boost to get a bigger flush. That didn’t seem to make a difference. ... ... In all my cleanses I’ve only gotten out about 150 stones total (and 75 were in my first cleanse). I don’t understand why unless I just don’t have that many. I drink a lot of water and have been for a while. But there was a time in my life when I ate a lot of junky food. ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Does it have to be exta virgin olive oil?   JeanMarie   12y
     
    The reason I ask is I only have a little over a cup of extra virgin olive oil left but I do have some regular olive oil too. Would it be okay to mix these for the cleanse?   [End]
    • The reason I ask is I only have a little over a cup of extr...   UserX   12y
       
      The reason I ask is I only have a little over a cup of extra virgin olive oil left but I do have some regular olive oil too. Would it be okay to mix these for the cleanse? ... ... ... ... Actually, you need only 1/2 cup of olive oil for usual cleanse. ... ... But it doesn’t matter much what kind of oil you use. ... Cleanse success does not depend on what kind of olive oil you use. ... ... The only important is that you can digest it. ... ... Exta virgin olive oil is cold pressed olive oil, unprocessed. ... As the most of the oil that you will use in your cleanse will be absorbed by intestines, you don’t really want t ...   [retrieve this message]
      • I am not sure I understand ... You say I only need 1/2 cup ...   JeanMarie   12y
         
        I am not sure I understand ... You say I only need 1/2 cup of olive oil? ... I thought it was a pint? ... SO if it is a 1/2 cup how do I do this?   [End]
      • IMO half a cup is too small a quantity for the flush. It i...   alan   12y
         
        IMO half a cup is too small a quantity for the flush. It is more effective to take the full cup and really force the liver to expell the stones. Sure, half a cup will have moderate results but I feel they are moderate compared to one cup. On this website a minor liver flush is taking olive oil by the tablespoon at night or so. Judging by this, quantity effects the result of flushes..contraction of the liver. To do something right one should do it completely without going halfway. In the end look at the different sources and experiment for yourself. ... ... ... --alan   [End]
  • I am here to tell you I FEEL it works!   #161552   12y
     
    ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/ab-altmedicine/messages?lgnF=y&msg=1791.1 ... ... From: 61554 5/7/2001 1:00 am ... To: LOVERIOT (17 of 53) ... 1791.17 in reply to 1791.16 ... ... I too have tried the liver flush, which we always called it the gallbladder cleanse. I am here to tell you I FEEL it works! Taking the gallbladder out is taking care of a symptom, WHY not take care of the Problem and that is to feed the body the right way & it can HEAL itself!! ... ... I was told that the apple juice and lemon juice are to soften the stones so that they can pass and the oil is to help them go through ...   [retrieve this message]
    • ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/ab-altmedicin...   Rick   12y
       
      ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/ab-altmedicine/messages?lgnF=y&msg=1791.3 ... ... ... From: RICHARD5021 4/18/2001 10:21 pm ... To: Cathy (AB_ALTMED) (3 of 53) ... 1791.3 in reply to 1791.1 ... ... Hi Cathy, ... ... I too have tried a version of the Liver/Gallbladder detox. I too achieved the same results as you, quit a few pale green structures floating in the bowl. I did not examine them as closely as you but did experience the same exuberant detox high! ... ... I can not say it was one of the more enjoyable experiences in my life but I do feel that it was beneficial and I will do it again. I di ...   [retrieve this message]
      • ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/n/mb/message.asp...   #163538   12y
         
        ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ab-altmedicine&msg=1791.4 ... ... From: HERBNURSE 4/19/2001 3:19 am ... To: Cathy (AB_ALTMED) (4 of 53) ... 1791.4 in reply to 1791.1 ... ... I have used a liver flush off and on over the last 20 years, although it is significantly different than the one you describe. ... This liver flush is a 5 day dast from all solid food but you drink quarts and quarts of organic ”lemonade”. Use organic lemons and pure water in a pitcher to make lemonade as usual. For the sweetener use only 100% pure maple syrup to taste. Add fresh ground dried cayen ...   [retrieve this message]
        • ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/n/mb/message.as...   R #166587   12y
           
          ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ab-altmedicine&msg=1791.5 ... ... ... From: TXHERBALORE 4/19/2001 10:42 am ... To: Cathy (AB_ALTMED) (5 of 53) ... 1791.5 in reply to 1791.1 ... ... After suffering with a ”hot” gall bladder that my family physician was not able to diagnose, even after an ultrasound and bloodwork (my numbers were all in the ”normal” range), I turned to alternative medicine....herbs. ... ... Consulted with a Master Herbalist who recommended the gall bladder flush, combined with a series of herbs known to calm and heal the digestive system. ... ... After 6 mont ...   [retrieve this message]
          • ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/n/mb/message.a...   #166884   12y
             
            ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ab-altmedicine&msg=1791.8 ... ... ... From: YEEH01 4/20/2001 8:43 am ... To: Cathy (AB_ALTMED) (8 of 53) ... 1791.8 in reply to 1791.1 ... ... ... I just have to respond - I am a pathologist and I see gallbladders and gallstones daily. I agree with your sources who told you those balls were not gallstones. They are most definitely NOT. It’s actually pretty sad that people who don’t know what gallstones look like are all impressed by this and think they have passed stones. ... Ann Elizabeth (praticing pathologist) ...   [retrieve this message]
            • ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/n/mb/message...   R #162820   12y
               
              ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ab-altmedicine&msg=1791.13 ... ... ... From: DJ6467 4/26/2001 4:38 am ... To: Cathy (AB_ALTMED) (13 of 53) ... 1791.13 in reply to 1791.1 ... ... If we are to accept from your article that this is a con and that the matter excreted is NOT gallstones how then is it explained that a person who has an ultrasound scan that confirms the presence of gallstones, after the treatment has a second ultrasound that confirms the ABSENCE of gallstones? ... ... ... ... ... I just have to respond - I am a pathologist and I see gallbladders and galls ...   [retrieve this message]
            • ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/n/mb/message...   R NANCYEM   12y
               
              ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ab-altmedicine&msg=1791.40 ... ... ... From: NANCYEM Feb-23 7:00 pm ... To: Cathy (AB_ALTMED) unread (40 of 53) ... 1791.40 in reply to 1791.1 ... ... ... ... Hi Cathy: ... ... I disagree with whoever told you that what you got out were not gallstones. I have done research as well, and tried the liver flush myself. It was instrumental in my health quest, although I agree that it is rather nasty to do. You are right that gallstones can get stuck on their way out but you can avoid this by softening the stones first before attempting a flus ...   [retrieve this message]
              • ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/n/mb/messa...   NANCYEM   12y
                 
                ... ... from: ... http://forums.about.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ab-altmedicine&msg=1791.47 ... ... ... ... From: NANCYEM Mar-9 12:10 am ... To: PATKAYE4 (47 of 53) ... 1791.47 in reply to 1791.44 ... ... I tried the castor oil packs you mention and it only aggrevated my problems. I had no luck with them at all. I don’t believe the castor oil can soften and remove gallstones, at least it didn’t for me. The liver flush was very successful for me after using Gold Coin Grass to soften the gallstones. And I found that it is a good idea to cleanse the kidneys at the same time. Everything I have ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Daily Epsom Salts?   Jas   12y
     
    Hi, ... ... I have heard Agnes (I think) and others suggest that it is good to take a smaller amount of epsom salts every day if you are preparing for a cleanse or if your liver is very congested, to help keep things moving. My liver is very congested. (as far as I can tell)I have a lot of allergies and almost no energy. The first 5 or 6 flushes I did were very successful but the last three have not been. I was wondering if it’s okay to take epsom salts daily to try to keep the ducts open and things flowing through the liver more easily overall? If so... how much should I take per day and when ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Most people say ”don’t take epsom salts on a regular basis ...   R UserX   12y
       
      Most people say ”don’t take epsom salts on a regular basis because they are a laxative and you’ll get dependent on them”. ... ... ... ... Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate heptahidrate) have been for millions of years part of human diet. ... ... 2% of natural unrefined ocean salt is magnesium sulfate. ... ... natural unrefined ocean salt have been part of human diet for hundreds of thousands of years, all untill last 50 years. ... ... It is in the last 30 - 80 years people started using refined salt. ... ... ... Almost all natural mineral water contains magnesium sulfate. ... Read the lable. It’s always written percentage. ... ...   [retrieve this message]
      • ... ... It is probable that low total body magnesium c...   #161872   12y
         
        ... ... It is probable that low total body magnesium contributes to heavy metal toxicity in children and is a participant in the etiology of learning disorders. ... It is probable that low total body magnesium contributes to heavy metal toxicity in children and is a participant in the etiology of learning disorders. It is probable that low total body magnesium contributes to heavy metal toxicity in children and is a participant in the etiology of learning disorders. It is probable that low total body magnesium contributes to heavy metal toxicity in children and is a participant in the ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Just a thought, but perhaps the mediterranean diet promotes...   prettysoulful   9y
           
          Just a thought, but perhaps the mediterranean diet promotes health and longevity by preventing liver congestion and stones vs. removing stones. With a clean, healthful diet, liver congestion may be completely avoided, removing the need for planned flushing all together. I don’t suggest that this is likely among most, just that it is possible.   [End]
  • Cold liquids & ...   Stu   12y
     
    ... ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”usn442” rachel~   [End]
    • ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: Rachd1961@aol...   rachel   12y
       
      ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: Rachd1961@aol.com ... Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 22:58:01 EDT ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] Re: cold liquids & Tip for the Day ... ... ... ... Hi Stu - welcome :) ... I guess nobody mentioned to you that as a member of this group you’re ... required to read all 10,000 message in the archives before posting. :) ... (please don’t anyone take me seriously - I am, of course, totally kidding). ... ... ... I started drinking lemon water (warm, not hot) in the mornings a couple of ... months ago and now it has become an ingrained habit. I’ve read that it’s ... good in so many different ...   [retrieve this message]
      • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”usn442” ... D...   Stu   12y
         
        To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”usn442” ... Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 03:22:14 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: cold liquids & Tip for the Day ... ... ... ... Wow! That was quick Rachel - you must have been sitting at the ... computer with fingers poised. It was only a couple minutes and I ... refreshed the screen to see if my posting was up and there you were. ... ... ... I have only recently subscribed to Yahoo Groups - Have some ... experience with my own organ disfunctions; so, thought I’d see what ... is being discussed these days in the various support groups. ... ... ... Had four physicians in my famil ...   [retrieve this message]
        • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ....   Barry   12y
           
          To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ... Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 03:33:17 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: cold liquids & Tip for the Day ... ... ... Hi Stu, ... ... ... Welcome back to the group. Thanks for the info only it isn’t true in ... my case. I’m glad you said ’could be the cause of ’many’ attacks - ... left side. ... ... ... I lay on my right side just because of this logical approach to gb ... position but the colic still comes. ... ... ... There is only two other explainations why right side causes colic at ... night also. These should be considered. ... ... ... #1. The lighter stone - heavier stone t ...   [retrieve this message]
          • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”usn442” ... D...   Stu   12y
             
            To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”usn442” ... Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 03:52:29 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: cold liquids & Tip for the Day ... ... ... ... OK Barry, ... ... ... Pleased to meet you. Your comments are well taken as far as ”lighter ... than bile” type stones. However, you may have other engines running ... such as high concentration of calcified substance in the gallbladder ... so that the shear ”squeezing” of that organ in response to food (fat) ... stimulation brings on pain. Or, a small particle almost permanently ... lodged in the outgoing portal duct. This would present itself with ...   [retrieve this message]
            • ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ...   Barry   12y
               
              ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ... Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 03:04:24 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: cold liquids & Tip for the Day ... ... ... Hi again Stu, ... ... ... Actually, I don’t follow the lighter-heavier stone idea. I like the ... closed system without air theory. I have a 1cm stone that moves into ... the mouth of the gallbladder and the attampted squeeze to the cystic ... duct causes my colic. It is only 2 or 3 times a week, in the middle ... of the night. ... ... ... My bilirubin levels have been ’diagnosed’ as normal and my stool ... color is normal as well. ... ... ... The producing o ...   [retrieve this message]
              • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”usn442” ... D...   Stu   12y
                 
                To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”usn442” ... Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:09:21 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: cold liquids & Tip for the Day ... ... ... ... OK Barry, ... ... ... Very interesting and comprehensive report. It is great that you ... have taken such a strong endeavor to understand your own problem. ... ... ... You didn’t actually state the duration of each of the 2 or 3 attacks ... per week. In my case, during a 4 year period, in the early 90’s, ... attacks occurred with little provocation and ranged from 4 hours to ... the longest of 18 hours. I had been advised early on to try ... eliminating fa ...   [retrieve this message]
                • ... ... Could those of you who have gallstones for sure te...   Lu   12y
                   
                  ... ... Could those of you who have gallstones for sure tell me if you experience burning as well as sharp pain and swelling in your right side. ... ... Peace ... ... Lu ...   [End]
                  • ... ... ... According to the doctor’s interpretation of t...   rachel   12y
                     
                    ... ... ... According to the doctor’s interpretation of the ultrasound, I for sure have ... gallstones. I’ve never experienced the above. The pain I’ve had has been ... in the center right below the V of the ribs and sometimes going to my back. ... ... ... Each body is different, though, and reports have been quite varied out here. ... ... ... in health, ... rachel~ ...   [End]
                  • Lu, ... ... ... Of course. I experience all those symptom...   Barry   12y
                     
                    Lu, ... ... ... Of course. I experience all those symptoms. Not so much the burning ... feeling. Usually aching pain and sharp pain. Some swelling. ... ... ... Barry. ... ... ... ... ... --- In gallstones@y..., ”Lulu” Lu ...   [End]
            • To: ... From: ”Teresa French” Stu   Teresa   12y
               
              To: ... From: ”Teresa French” Stu   [End]
              • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”usn442” ... D...   Stu   12y
                 
                To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”usn442” ... Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 01:44:45 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: cold liquids & Tip for the Day ... ... ... Teresa, ... ... ... I drank straight lemon juice for two months - did not dilute it ... at all. However, sometimes I had to use the concentrate and squirted ... it into water; but, that was only maybe once a week. ... ... ... There are those that may not consider the importance of avoiding left ... side sleeping; but, I would suggest you try sleeping on your back or ... right side for about a month to see if you can arrest those daily ... attacks. ... ... ... Stu ...   [retrieve this message]
        • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: Rachd1961@aol.com...   rachel   12y
           
          To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: Rachd1961@aol.com ... Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 05:36:54 EDT ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] Re: cold liquids & Tip for the Day ... ... ... Hello Stu, ... Well, welcome to the group. It’s great that you have physicians in the ... family that you can discuss things with. I’m sure that’s helpful to you. ... ... ... Sorry to hear about your organ dysfunction, whatever type that may be, and ... hope that you find some useful information out here in the groups. ... ... ... As for the lemon water - what is your source of information that says it ... should be full strength? Just curious - I ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Liver clense helps to loose weight and kills allergies!   R Rusfox   12y
     
    Here is my message posted a few days after my third liver clense: ... ... Apart from my successes after three clenses (my thyroid gland reduced in shape, skin looks better, body weight is slightly reducing, addiction to ”bad” food is gone), my friend (also 25 year old girl)has no insomnia any more, before she had problems falling asleep if there was any slightest noise. ... ... ... Now it is about three weeks after that and I still get the results: ... ... I tend to wake up half an hour before my alarm, lately. I lost my all excess of weight (did not have too much of it though - 3 kg or so)and I don’t seem ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Flush 2   Teresa   12y
     
    From: ”Teresa French” ... Date: Fri Apr 5, 2002 1:50 pm ... Subject: Flush 2 ... ... ... ... Greetings to all from the other end of the planet! ... ... I am in the process of my 2nd flush (1 hour after my 2nd dose of epsom ... salts), and was wondering a few things... ... ... I get my attacks fairly consistently mid afternoon, or maybe 4pm at the ... latest, and the bad ones have me feverish and in lots of pain so the only ... thing for it is bed. Or, actually recently I discovered that lying on my ... right side gives me some (not total) relief. ... ... I was having an attack roughly every six months, but of late, they we ...   [retrieve this message]
    • From: ”Teresa French” ... Date: Fri Apr 5, 2002 1:58 ...   Teresa   12y
       
      From: ”Teresa French” ... Date: Fri Apr 5, 2002 1:58 pm ... Subject: RE: [gallstones] Flush 2 ... ... ... ... ps - I forgot to ask... it said to have a fat free breakfast and lunch ... today - I had lavash (flat bread) with philadephia cream cheese (just a ... little bit!) and about 1/4 of an avacado on it... I wasn’t organised enough. ... ... After this, am I wasting my time doing the flush, or does it have any effect ... at all? ... thanks ... Teresa   [End]
      • ... From: ”Teresa French” Diarrhea started after I ate. ....   Teresa   12y
         
        ... From: ”Teresa French” Diarrhea started after I ate. ... ... Agnes, this comment of yours relieved me... I still have not had any ... movement down below and was getting worried. It is amazing how much ... difference it makes - instead of 4tsbp of epsom salts in 3 cups of water I ... am doing 3tbsp in 3cup applejuice/water mix. This is because I had such a ... powerful reaction to the ES last time! ... ... I stayed awake last night for most of the night, but for different reasons ... this time - this time I felt very nauseous and wanting to heave a couple of ... times but didn’t. Strange I thought, as I didn’t hav ...   [retrieve this message]
        • From: ”Teresa French” ... Date: Sat Apr 6, 2002 4:46 ...   Teresa   12y
           
          From: ”Teresa French” ... Date: Sat Apr 6, 2002 4:46 am ... Subject: RE: [gallstones] Flush 2 ... ... ... ... thank you - it’s been only 3/4 hr since my last dose of epsom salts and they ... moved things along very quickly! within 30 minutes I was running for the ... loo - and have been once since then too. Haven’t seen any stones yet though. ... Will see how it goes! ... Teresa   [End]
          • To: ... From: ”Teresa French” ... Date: Tue, 9 Apr 20...   Teresa   12y
             
            To: ... From: ”Teresa French” ... Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 19:09:43 +1000 ... Subject: RE: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... just quickly stepping in here, work is v busy so can’t stop long! ... ... ... Barry, gravel it may or may not be, but I don’t know if I had any success ... this time with flush 2 and today, being Tuesday after the flush on Friday ... night/Saturday I had the threat of an attack (a tiny amount of pain that ... went away)... that was pretty disappointing, I expected to be pain free for ... a lot longer than just a couple of days - I am starting to fear that perhaps ... I have opened a can of worms st ...   [retrieve this message]
            • To: ... From: ”Dale Williams” ... I have opened a can ...   R Dale   12y
               
              To: ... From: ”Dale Williams” ... I have opened a can of worms starting this flushing thing, and perhaps I ... should have left it alone - I am not interested in epsom salts and olive oil ... for the rest of my days! ... ... ... Overreaction that may be, but I have yet to see good results from flushing.. ... Words of encouragement welcome people!!! ... ... ... in hope, ... Teresa ...   [End]
              • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ....   Barry   12y
                 
                To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ... Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 03:34:59 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... Dale, ... ... ... This is a great testimony. I was wondering something about your ... story. If you’ve been flushing for 3 years, have cleaned up your diet ... and are watching everything ’going in’ so well, and you have a clean ... ultrasound now, why do you feel you are still having discomfort? ... ... ... Do you think your bile within your gb is still producing stones that ... need to be cleanses out? ... Do you think sludge is building up causing the discomfort? ... ... ... I was j ...   [retrieve this message]
                • To: ... From: ”Lulu” ... Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:34:...   Lu   12y
                   
                  To: ... From: ”Lulu” ... Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:34:38 -0500 ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... ... Speaking of hydrogenated fats, I have a problem ..........now I have tried to find an alternative for them at Wholefoods, a few different cookies, but nothing compares to an Oreo....oh oh who’s that flusher with the oreo cookie....ahahahaha......Not that I eat them daily or anything but when I do have occassion to them....I eat a good dozen of them with coffee....oh you talk about naughty. Anyhow, I do miss my Oreo cookies and if I can ever find an alternative to them I will give th ...   [retrieve this message]
                  • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ....   Barry   12y
                     
                    To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ... Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:09:42 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... ... Lu, ... ... Oreo cookies, surgery, oreo cookies, surgery, oreo cookies, surgery. ... That’s your options. haha ... And don’t think you can substitute them for glazed donuts or french ... fries. haha ... ... ... Everyone is searching for a pain-free, happy, and healthy life. We ... have to always give and take in those areas. Everyone’s threshold of ... pain and tolerance is different. ... ... ... Be strong but be happy. ... Good luck with your search for ’you’. ... ... ... Barry. ... ... ”The Y ...   [retrieve this message]
                    • To: ”Gallstone” ... From: ”Lulu” ... Date: Tue, 9 Apr...   Lu   12y
                       
                      To: ”Gallstone” ... From: ”Lulu” ... Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 23:14:20 -0500 ... Subject: [gallstones] Diet and stones ... ... ... I found this information at Dr. Weil’s site....now I did see that he says that the gallbladder flush is folk remedy that doesn’t work but anyhow, I thought well there are many out there who believe this to be true....Anyhow this was also found at his site: ... ... ... ”If a patient can’t tolerate surgery, two drugs, Actigall (ursodiol) and Chenix (chenodiol), can help dissolve gallstones, but treatment can take months. Another nonsurgical alternative, shock-wave lithotripsy, is ...   [retrieve this message]
                      • Re: Flush 2 - Dr. Weil   Dale   12y
                         
                        To: ... From: ”Dale Williams” ... Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:51:54 -0700 ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] Diet and stones ... ... ... ... ... ... ... This is just exactly why I lost all respect for this man’s opinons, and ... quite reading anything he had to say even if he is correct. He made this ... statement with out any supportive documentation for that statement. If he ... would do it with something so critical as gallbladder health he’ll do it ... else where. ... ... ... Sorry,, But I just do not find a good reason to repect this man even though ... a friend of mine consideres him her friend. ... ... ... Regarding the disolving of ...   [retrieve this message]
                        • ... I found this information at Dr. Weil’s site....now I ...   Doris   12y
                           
                          ... I found this information at Dr. Weil’s site....now I did see that he says ... that the gallbladder flush is folk remedy that doesn’t work but anyhow, I ... thought well there are many out there who believe this to be true....Anyhow ... this was also found at his site: ... ... ... ... ... I read Dr Weil’s advice too and also hit another site from an MD who said the flush is dangerous and you can end up in ER in considerable pain. ... ... Because of these comments I am afraid to attempt the flush even tho’ I am chock full of stones and will probably have surgery in 2 weeks. ... ... I started with pancreat ...   [retrieve this message]
                          • Re: Flush 2 - Other problems flared after 2nd flush   Sherri   12y
                             
                            My emotions say try the flush and get all the darned things out but my head says ”whoa baby-this could be dangerous.” I have included my email address and would deeply appreciate hearing from someone personally about their experience with the flush. I see a surgeon in a week so time is of the essence. Please contact me. Thanks, Doris ...   [End]
                            • But a few days after ... that, my back really flared up....   UserX   12y
                               
                              But a few days after ... that, my back really flared up. Neck pain and back pain ... in several spots. Not sure it’s related, but it seems ... awfully coincidental. It seems flushing is pretty hard ... on the body (at least for me it is), and I worry it’ll ... flare up other existing problems, or bring on some new, ... not-yet-diagnosed problem. ... ... ... Sherri, ... some people with serious health problems, chronic problems, go through process of revers disease. ... ... Symptoms of diseases that have been supressed in the past, symptoms supressed by medications, begin apearing. ... ... Sometimes, per ...   [retrieve this message]
                              • C7............. Thyroid Gland, bursa in the shoulders, the ...   Sherri   12y
                                 
                                C7............. Thyroid Gland, bursa in the shoulders, the elbows. ... ... Very interesting! I do have thyroid disease. Actually, Grave’s ... Disease which is a hyperactive thyroid. I was treated with ... radioactive iodine, which made me hypothyroid, so I’m ... on thyroid medication for the rest of my life. Also, I had a tonisllectomy as well because of chronic tonsillitis. Seems ... to correlate well. However, these both occured in 1994 and ... I have developed many other subsequent health problems since ... (Interstitial Cystitis, Endometriosis, chronic low-grade fever, ... ...). So it doesn’t seem to ...   [retrieve this message]
                                • ... Sorry Agnes, I meant Agnes, not Ange! ... ... Also, I ...   Sherri   12y
                                   
                                  ... Sorry Agnes, I meant Agnes, not Ange! ... ... Also, I forgot to say that my back is finally starting to ... improve some. It has got a ways to go, but seems to be ... starting to slowly get better. ... ... I should also add that I had a liver test done 3 weeks after ... my last flush, and the results were normal: ... ... AST 10 (normal 2-35) ... Alkaline Phosphatase 53 (normal 20-125) ... ... I had the liver tests done, because I have been on Penicillin-VK ... for a year for an elevated strep titer. My titer finally came ... down to normal, but the antibiotics has helped my Interstitial ...   [retrieve this message]
                                  • Sherri, ... I have only done two flushes. My gallstones nev...   Lisa   12y
                                     
                                    Sherri, ... I have only done two flushes. My gallstones never showed up on ultrasound, but I’ve had gallbladder/liver pain nonetheless. I cleaned out 150 stones the first time, and felt significantly increased discomfort for the next 3 days. Then I improved quite a bit. It seems like I feel my best right before the cleanse. (Probably because I’m eating no fat!) I just did my second cleanse last week, and only got out about 40 stones (gravel sized) I never really have ”attacks” where there’s a noticeable start and finish to my discomfort. It’s just an awareness of my gallbladder or liver, and ...   [retrieve this message]
                                  • Re: Interstititial Cystitis Remarkable Remedy   #8869   11y
                                     
                                    Hello! My name is Karen Highsmith and I live in Montgomery, IL. I was medically diagnosed some 14 years ago with the horrible & debilitating disease of ”Interstitial Cystitis.” ... ... I.C. is an extremely painful disease of the urinary bladder. My Urologist tried many clinical treatments; sadly to say, with little or no help. (1) 8 Rimso Bladder Instillments; (2) Oxybutin; (3) Pyridium; (4) Elavil; (5) Vistrial; (6) Elmiron (which unfortunately I could not tolerate because of the nausea); and also (7) Prelief. ... ... It was also necessary for me to constantly watch my diet very closely bec ...   [retrieve this message]
                            • Re: Flush 2 - Other problems flared after 2nd flush   Yael   11y
                               
                              Yes me The last time I did my flush I felt like a truck hit me on my right rib cage...I was so sore! However I know that I felt way better in a week than I had felt so I can tolerate. It is very interesting how things relate...The points that effect me mostly when I flush is the point right above the last cervical, the liver spot near the floating rib...sorry I do not know the points by name....I tend to see the same stuff each time. ... Yael   [End]
                • Re: Flush 2   R Dale   12y
                   
                  To: ... From: ”Dale Williams” ... Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:39:25 -0700 ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... ... Barry; ... ... I hope this helps you to understand my situation a little bit better. ... ... I have not only had gallstones but also have a situation from a past disease ... that is much too often a death sentence for those who have it. I have been ... diagnosed as having had Hepatitis C or what was known as Serum Hepatitis and ... Hepatitis A. I got Hepatitis C around 1968 but recovered from that, ... somewhat. These showed up when I had my last blood tests done in November of ... ’99’ after the li ...   [retrieve this message]
                • I’m new at this and I am trying to figure out what kind of ...   ze   40d
                   
                  I’m new at this and I am trying to figure out what kind of treatments are available for I’m not astute in what its called however, symptoms are the abundance of white small gravel in stools for over a year that are extrodinarlily painful at times to moderate pain as theses very hard gravel scrapes through the bowel and and always especially painful on my right side. Are these gallstones and does one use a gallstones cleave or a liver cleanse? Any enlightenment as to essay is causing it and how to fix would be great help to me, and very appreciated. Thanks, Ze   [End]
              • To: ... From: ”Teresa French”   Teresa   12y
                 
                To: ... From: ”Teresa French”   [End]
            • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ....   Barry   12y
               
              To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ... Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 03:26:40 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... ... Teresa, ... ... ... If this is only your second flush you are still too early to see the ... final results. You shouldn’t be discouraged until you do at least 10 ... flushes. I know it sounds tough but there may be a lot of stones in ... the back of the gb that are moving forward to exit. You may have many ... years of gunk and toxins to clear out. Rome wasn’t built on one or ... two flushes. :-) Keep flushing. ... ... ... Some people are lucky enough to get the sludge, sand, or ...   [retrieve this message]
    • ... From: barry91162 [mailto:barry91162@yahoo.com] ... Sent...   Barry   12y
       
      ... From: barry91162 [mailto:barry91162@yahoo.com] ... Sent: Saturday, 6 April 2002 13:17 ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... ... ... Teresa, ... ... ... I’ll ask you the same question I asked Dawn. Have you had ultrasound ... to determine what size and number of stones you are dealing with ... inside your gallbladder? ... ... ... I’ve had 8 cleanses, and the colic will return for me after 2-7 days ... because it takes that long for the large amount of oil to process ... through my body. I’m sort of lubbed for a few days and then the colic ... is back to it’s usual self. Having the ultrasounds ...   [retrieve this message]
      • I’ll ask you the same question I asked Dawn. Have you had u...   Teresa   12y
         
        I’ll ask you the same question I asked Dawn. Have you had ultrasound ... to determine what size and number of stones you are dealing with ... inside your gallbladder? ... ... ... ... ... From: ”Teresa French” to determine what size and number of stones you are dealing with ... inside your gallbladder? ... ... ... ... ... From: ”Teresa French” inside your gallbladder? ... ... ... ... ... From: ”Teresa French” ... ... ... ... From: ”Teresa French” ... Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 13:55:29 +1000 ... Subject: RE: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... Reply-To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... ... ... Barry, ... ... ... I have had an ultrasound and it tells me ...   [retrieve this message]
        • ... ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: Adrienne...   Adrienne   12y
           
          ... ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: Adrienne McLaughlin Teresa” ...   [End]
          • ... ... ... This is interesting, Adrienne. I guess that’...   rachel   12y
             
            ... ... ... This is interesting, Adrienne. I guess that’s sort of what I was theorizing ... about (but you phrased it so much better!). So a large amount of sludge ... could cause similar problems as a big stone. It does make sense - I mean, ... why should the gallbladder have the corner on pain in passing stones? ... ... ... Gheez, when I think about how overworked and under cared-for our livers ... generally are, it’s no wonder that people end up in liver failure so often. ... I’m just thankful that I discovered some of this stuff at a relatively young ... age. ... ... ... in health, ... rachel~ ... ”Live you ...   [retrieve this message]
            • ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ...   Barry   12y
               
              ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ... Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 01:29:48 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... ... Teresa & Rachel, ... ... ... Sure, gravel can build up on the walls of the gallblader, clog the ... opening to the cystic duct, clog up the common duct itself as it ... clings to the sides of the ducts and cause a colic attack. The small ... stuff seems to create colic even more than a large stone. The large ... stone will sometimes be too big to even block the mouth of the ... gallblader and the bile will still flow past without obstruction. ... ... ... Only gravel? Do a flus ...   [retrieve this message]
              • ... ... ... In case anyone missed this I wanted to put it...   rachel   12y
                 
                ... ... ... In case anyone missed this I wanted to put it back out there. :) ... ... ... Yes - by all means - flush while things are small enough to flush out easily! ... ... ... rachel~ ...   [End]
                • To: ... From: ”Lulu” ... Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:30:...   Lu   12y
                   
                  To: ... From: ”Lulu” ... Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:30:00 -0500 ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... Hi there, ... On the subject of gravel I want to say that today I used the epsom salts without the oil and I had tons of gravel spill out of me...and some that looked like stones....now I did not use any olive oil at all......any take on this? ... Peace ... Lu ...   [End]
                  • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ....   Barry   12y
                     
                    To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ... Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 03:08:55 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... Hi Lu, ... ... ... There can be many reasons for this depending on many factors. ... ... Those stones, gravel, sludge can come from your ducts relaxing from ... the ES intake and cleaning out the excess from your last cleanse. ... When was your last flush? I’ve found that for up to normally one ... week, and even two weeks, that my body will continue to mini-flush as ... I eat fats and as the oil finishes coursing through my system. This ... is why a lot of mini-flushes happen w ...   [retrieve this message]
                    • To: ... From: ”Lulu” ... Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:32:...   Lu   12y
                       
                      To: ... From: ”Lulu” ... Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:32:26 -0500 ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... Hi Barry, ... No I didn’t take particular interest in it all as we had lots going on around here today but had it not been so busy I would have investigated further about the stones....now it has been sometime before my last flush....I think it has been 3 weeks.....I was feeling really good this week until Friday when I had a cup of French Vanilla Cappuccino and then I felt awful all week-end that is why I started the ES today with the apple juice...I have drank a quart of apple juice tod ...   [retrieve this message]
                      • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ....   Barry   12y
                         
                        To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ... Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 00:26:19 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... ... Lu, ... ... Maybe you created sort of a mini-flush contraction within your gb by ... drinking the cap and that tighening feeling was the sludge and stones ... passing down to your intestines. Then, the juice and ES would relax ... the ducts, intestines, and colon and the whole blasted mess came out ... for you to see. Sounds good no matter how it came out, right? ... Congratulations!!! Hope it helps to make you feel better. ... ... ... Barry. ...   [retrieve this message]
                        • To: ... From: ”Lulu” ... Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:26:...   Lu   12y
                           
                          To: ... From: ”Lulu” ... Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:26:35 -0500 ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... ... But Barry, don’t you think that the sandy stuff can be quite irritating on the delicate tissues inside? I know that when I have passed that amount of sandy stuff and I see it and think, ”oh my word, no wonder my innards hurt so sorely”. But you are right about the pain being different than a gallstone, I could imagine because I do believe I have passed them over the last 10 years and it feels like a knife so bad you lose your breath and then you wince and moan and soon after about ...   [retrieve this message]
                          • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ....   Barry   12y
                             
                            To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ... Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 04:05:01 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... ... Lu, ... ... Ear flushing? I don’t mind having my head down sideways in the toilet ... but all those stones coming out my ears sounds pretty nasty. haha ... ... ... I wish I had only sand and small stones causing colic on the way out. ... Unfortunetly my gallstone is hard and over twice the size of my ... cystic duct. Dieting hasn’t decreased the size. 8 flushes over 4 ... months hasn’t helped it either. I’ll look into the ear flush before ... surgery. haha ... ... ... Barry. ...   [retrieve this message]
                            • To: ... From: ”Ann Staley” ... Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 ...   Ann   12y
                               
                              To: ... From: ”Ann Staley” ... Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 21:09:23 -0700 ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... ... Our parts are so wondrously connected.... ... My sister attended her first Tai Chi Dong class and did the part that treats sinuses. Her sinuses began to drain, and she was ... unaware of any sinus ”problem’”in herself. ... ... Ann ...   [End]
        • ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ...   Barry   12y
           
          ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ... Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 04:13:33 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: Flush 2 ... ... ... Teresa, ... ... ... Sometimes stones do not always show up on ultrasound. Another one ... would be helpful in the near future just to make sure they didn’t ... miss one (or more) on the first scan. If you do a few flushes and ... still have colic, that is when I’d check it again. ... ... ... Also, the smaller ones (and gravel) could cause colic just as well. ... The smaller gravel could be blocking your cystic duct or common duct. ... ... ... One good thing is that the gravel is a ...   [retrieve this message]
  • gallstones cleanse and nursing 3 month old   JeanMarie   12y  C
     
    I recently did a 3 day cleanse but not a full fledge because I wasn’t sure about doing it while nursing. I have been told I have about 15 gallstones visable by ultrasound. ... I am wondering if it is okay to do a full cleanse while nursing and which one (in your opinion) would work best for me. I do experience attacks every so often. ... thank you   [End]
    • JeanMarie, ... ... read the story posted by Celia - Pregna...   Webmaster   12y
       
      JeanMarie, ... ... read the story posted by Celia - Pregnacy forum, or Liver Cleanse FAQ ... ... ... It is thread that starts with SAFETY ? ... ... She did cleanse while pregnant and while breast-feeding. ... ... ... Most pregnant or breast-feeding moms eat occasionaly junk foods (pizza, hamburger). ... ... ... If they can swallow that junk, and nurse a child, then why would it be so hard to swallow best quality organic olive oil and grapefruit juice, and continue with nursing ? ... ... ... Webmaster   [End]
      • starting a cleanse tomorrow   JeanMarie   12y
         
        I am a vegetarian also. For the past two days I had gallstone attacks and two rid the pain I did 2 tbsp of epsom salt and 1 ounce of water. Both times in the evening and my nearly 3 month old has had normal bowel movements. I did have diarrhea in the mornings. Iam going to try the Are You Stoned Cleanse tomorrow. I have been doing raw fruits and veggies during the day for two days now and will up date here on Friday about the cleanse. ... Thank you for the help!!!!   [End]
        • Thank you for the help!!!! ... ... ... Good Luck! ... Kee...   Webmaster   12y
           
          Thank you for the help!!!! ... ... ... Good Luck! ... Keep us informed! ... ... Webmaster ...   [End]
          • I am breastfeeding my 4 month old. I am a vegiterian also....   amanda   11y
             
            I am breastfeeding my 4 month old. I am a vegiterian also. I have had gallstones with my 2 year old and I flushed them out. With my daughter I have done 2 cleanses, and then I had an ultrasound and it is already full again. I go to see a surgen monday. I don’t want it out but it is an aweful way to live. If there is anyone who knows how to cure this problem Please Please tell me. Does breastfeeding cause your estrogen to go up therefore causeeing your cholesterol to go up creating stones?? ... I need answers. ... Amanda   [End]
  • Computer trouble   tisha   12y
     
    I just read the message about people not being able to post because of technical difficulties. ... ... I checked in on this board today and didn’t notice any postings.I was beginning to wonder if all the questions had been answered and there was no longer a need to cleanse our livers. ... ... I am preparing to do my sixth cleanse on Thursday. I will let you know what happens. I read a letter today on another site from someone who is convinced that this cleansing thing is a hoax. They don’t believe that anyone can get actual gall stones out by following Dr. Clark’s recipe. I know that sometim ...   [retrieve this message]
  • [gallstones] First (successful?) flush results   #166720   12y
     
    ... ... From: ”wannaflush” ... Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 13:02:36 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] First (successful?) flush results ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... ... ... Well, I finally completed my first flush Saturday and don’t know ... whether it was successful or not. I used apple juice with the E. Salts ... and bumped the times up to 4:30, 6:30 and then oil at 8:30. Wasn’t ... sure which position to be in so I started flat on my back for 20 ... minutes then did the right side with knee pulled up. Didn’t feel much ... going on but heard a lot of sound effects. Spent a lot of time in the ... bathroom Sun ...   [retrieve this message]
    • ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”V. Richter” ...   R Vince   12y
       
      ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”V. Richter” ... Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 10:41:52 -0500 ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] First (successful?) flush results ... ... ... Hi, ... I got 50 stones on my first flush, 250 on my second, and about 450 on my ... third. ... ... ... I’d recommend sticking with the times recommended. They are not arbitrary. ... They also don’t change with our personal schedules. How daylight savings ... time affects them I don’t know. I live on the time zone border also. These ... minor effects on our real time aren’t as important as changing the time ... altogether. The times are based ...   [retrieve this message]
      • From: ”wannaflush” ... Reply-To: gallstones@yahoogroups.c...   #166720   12y
         
        From: ”wannaflush” ... Reply-To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... Subject: [gallstones] Re: First (successful?) flush results ... Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 19:15:50 -0000 ... ... Hi--Thanks for your reply. I hadn’t thought about all that stuff ... with the body cycles and times. Also, it’s nice to know that more ... stones may come out in future flushes. Do you know why would be? ... Maybe they just need a flush to get ”warmed up”?. You’re right about ... my name--it doesn’t fit anymore! :) ... ...   [End]
        • ... ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”V. Rich...   Vince   12y
           
          ... ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”V. Richter” ... Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 16:30:30 -0500 ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] Re: First (successful?) flush results ... ... Here’s an opinion for what it’s worth :) A lot of stones are in our livers ... and gallbladders. There’s a lot of ducts that they are in. The flush gets ... out the ones closest to the outlet into the intestines. The rest don’t make ... it out, but get jostled a bit. The next time, some are further down the ... line closer to the opening. They get pushed out and the others get jostled ... and pushed closer to the opening. All a ...   [retrieve this message]
  • please help, acute gallbladder pain and bloating   Mariana   12y
     
    Hi, ... ... I am new to this list, and I have only heard about the liver cleanse a few days ago. That was when I started getting acute pain in the right side, and below the rib cage, and I bloated 2 pant sizes. I went to an ultra sound, and was diagnosed with gallstones. ... ... Although I have eaten almost nothing (1 grapefruit, and a couple of bananas) for the last 3 days, the pain will not go away, nor the bloating. It gets worse if I sit for more than 15 minutes, and spreads to my back. I just started an amazing job, after 6 months of being unemployed, and I might lose it because I cannot ...   [retrieve this message]
    • I am new to this list, and I have only heard about the live...   UserX   12y
       
      I am new to this list, and I have only heard about the liver cleanse a few days ago. That was when I started getting acute pain in the right side, and below the rib cage, and I bloated 2 pant sizes. I went to an ultra sound, and was diagnosed with gallstones. ... ... ... ... Mariana ... ... Read Liver Cleanse FAQ: ... ... this question: HELP! Gallstones Attack! What can I do? ... Link to Liver Cleanse FAQ is below this message. ... ... Read also about Liver Cleanse from the page called Liver Cleanse (Liver Cleanse Link - below this message.) ... ... Agnes   [End]
      • Re: please help, acute gallbladder pain and bloating   Mariana   12y
         
        Agnes   [End]
        • ... ... ... Mariana, ... ... all suggested on that page ...   R UserX   12y
           
          ... ... ... Mariana, ... ... all suggested on that page is also good for accute pain. ... ... Are you visiting toilet? How often? Did you try enema? ... ... ... Yes, pain and bloating can sometimes be caused by freshly squeezed friut juice, or freshly squeezed vegetable juice, or vegitable broth. ... ... When there is huge imabalance inside bowel, anything can cause pain and bloating. ... ... Try massaging your intestines, while walking barefoot on uneven surface (beach, marbles on th floor) ... ... ... Did you try cammomile tea? ... ... Do enema until you get rid of all gas inside your bowel. ... Most likely, pain is caused by bl ...   [retrieve this message]
          • Agnes, thanks so much, I will try all your suggestions ... ...   Mariana   12y
             
            Agnes, thanks so much, I will try all your suggestions ... ... Mariana ... ... ... Also the bloating is unbearable since I cannot get into any of my clothes. When I use Castor oil, the pain goes away for about 15 minutes, and then it comes back. I have not eaten anything for 4 days now (except freshly squeezed friut juice, and vegitable broth), so it cannot be food that is causing the pain. ... ... ... ... Mariana, ... ... all suggested on that page is also good for accute pain. ... ... Are you visiting toilet? How often? Did you try enema? ... ... ... Yes, pain and bloating can sometimes be cau ...   [retrieve this message]
      • HI AGAIN!! MARIANA I FORGOT SOME PERSONAL INFFORMATION... ....   ELISA   11y
         
        HI AGAIN!! MARIANA I FORGOT SOME PERSONAL INFFORMATION... ... I’M 30 YRS OLD,MARRIED TWO GIRLS (1&6 YRS OLD)I’M HISPANIC (MEXICAN RACE)DON’T WORK.(LUCKY).   [End]
    • HI! MARIANA I JUST DID THE FLUSH TODAY AND IT WORKED ”EXELL...   ELISA   11y
       
      HI! MARIANA I JUST DID THE FLUSH TODAY AND IT WORKED ”EXELLENT” I COULDN’T BELIEVE HOW MANY STONES I FLUSHED, MY LIVER WAS FULL OF THEM.AND I READ THIS RECIPE AT THE INTERNET FROM A GIRL TELLING A STORY ABOUT HER GRANDMA,ANYWAY, IT’S SO SIMPLE. ... WHEN I WAS DIAGNOSED”9 MOS AGO” WITH GALLBLADDER STONE THEY TOLD ME I HAD LITTLE TINY STONES IN THE GALLBLADDER,OBIOUSLY THEY WERE WRONG...SO HERE’S IS THE RECIPE... ... THE DAY OF THE FLUSH JUST HAVE A FAT FREE BREAKFAST AND AT NIGHT ABOUT 8:00 PM SQUEEZE THE JUICE OF 5 LIMES AND 1 BIG GRAPEFUIT AND MIX BOTH JUICES WITH 1 CUP OF EXTRA VIRGEN OLIVE OI ...   [retrieve this message]
    • You need more sex. This will help the pain.   #164915   11y
       
      You need more sex. This will help the pain.   [End]
  • Liver Cleanse with Hep C?   MB   12y
     
    My friend has Hep C. He was using chinese herbs and has successfully gotten his liver much more healthy. He is very active and works alot with Kung Fu and Chi Gong. I told him about my success with the liver cleanse and he was asking how to do it. do you know of testimonies doing cleanse with hep C or do you know any wisdom on this? ... ... Thanks!!! :)   [End]
    • My friend has Hep C. ... do you know of testimonies doi...   R UserX   12y
       
      My friend has Hep C. ... do you know of testimonies doing cleanse with hep C or do you know any wisdom on this? ... ... ... Message originally posted at DrClark@yahoogroups.com ... ... ... ==================================== ... To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com ... Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:52:52 +0200 (CEST) ... From: ilana do you know of testimonies doing cleanse with hep C or do you know any wisdom on this? ... ... ... Message originally posted at DrClark@yahoogroups.com ... ... ... ==================================== ... To: DrClark@yahoogroups.com ... Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:52:52 +0200 (CEST) ... From: ilana Jennifer ... ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Re: Confused by so much info! Where should I start, and whi...   R Hitch   12y
     
    ... Discussion from another forum: ... ... ... ... ... Thanks very much Southern belle, truely appreciated. Can I ask which liver cleanse you do? ... ... Thanks very much Southern belle, truely appreciated. Can I ask which liver cleanse you do? ... ... Thanks very much Southern belle, truely appreciated. Can I ask which liver cleanse you do? ... Thanks very much Southern belle, truely appreciated. Can I ask which liver cleanse you do? ... Thanks very much Southern belle, truely appreciated. Can I ask which liver cleanse you do? ... ... ... I have used Dr. Clark’s recipe bot ...   [retrieve this message]
  • hemangioma   #163042   12y  C
     
    hi! I have just been diagnosed having a ”liver hemangioma” (after an ultrasound). Not much was said to me, except that it was benign and nothing should be done, except ”watching it:”. I have been in a lot of pain ever since November, 2001. First, I was treated for an ulcer and given antibiotics. Pain got better for a while. It came back. Studies were done (ultrasound, CT Scan). Hemangioma was found. But nothing is going to be done, I was told. Pain continues. It’s hard to live with pain for a long time: pain, nauseas, tiredness, burning (sometimes). Could it be caused by this ”hemangioma” ...   [retrieve this message]
    • I would suggest bowel cleanse, parasites cleanse & liver cl...   UserX   12y
       
      I would suggest bowel cleanse, parasites cleanse & liver cleanse. ... ... ... ... There are two types of liver hemangioma: cavernous and hemangioendothelioma. ... ... Hemangioendotheliomata are generally seen only in children. ... Cavernous hemangioma is the most common benign liver tumor of adults. ... ... ... Cavernous hemangioma occur in individuals of all ages and throughout the world. They are more commonly found in older persons and rarely identified in young children. Cavernous hemangiomata are more common in women than men. Estrogens may increase their size. ... ... Cavernous hemangiomata can vary in size and ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Sadly, none of these homeopathic remdies are going to be of...   coffee1st   8mo
         
        Sadly, none of these homeopathic remdies are going to be of any use to someone with hemangiomas. Hemangiomas are a tangled mass of veins that are primarily a birth defect. It does not effect liver function - but is dangerous because of the risk of rupture and bleeding to death. Some hemangiomas creep into the abodminal cavity and grow incredibly large (and are very dangerous). When a hemangioma is that invasive, then it can hinder liver function. But there is no medicine or remedy that will alleviate the condition other than to have it removed. They are not a ”tumor” persay that will ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Hi, ... ... Last week I was told I have to giant hemangiom...   ToniED   4mo
           
          Hi, ... ... Last week I was told I have to giant hemangiomas one 16cc and one 6cc. I have been in a great deal of pain in my shoulder, rib cage and back. My liver is not functioning properly and my cholesterol skyrocketed to 380. I have not had the MRI yet only an ultrasound. My Dr. said that it is possible to shrink them without surgery. I have no idea what method she was talking about and had no idea what it was she said I had either. This week I have been doing a lot of reading up to understand the diagnosis and what is means. I was relieved that it wasn’t something worse however I am still ...   [retrieve this message]
    • I just read your message. Have you try natural medecine? ....   #164987   11y
       
      I just read your message. Have you try natural medecine? ... ... I have the same thing and was wondering what was successful for you?   [End]
    • I had a Ct scan & they saw a density, a nodule, in the live...   #161743   11y
       
      I had a Ct scan & they saw a density, a nodule, in the liver.....they suspect it is hemangioma but I think a biopsy has to be done to make sure it is not malignant.I am not a doctor..but I had a friend who was not diagnosed on time for malignancy & is now dead........ ... I also need advice.I pray a lot & I trust in God’s help,but I want to do my best & have the best treatment too.... ... What do you think.........should I accept the hemangioma diagnosis based on the Ct scan alone or have a biopsy done........I too experience pain on the lower left quadrant....thanks to your advice....   [End]
      • My husband, who has a cirrhotic liver was recently given an...   MComninel   11y
         
        My husband, who has a cirrhotic liver was recently given an MRI; the interventional radiologist came up with a diagnosis of ”hepatocellular carcinoma”; we went to specialist yesterday at Mt. Sinai (world reknown liver transplant center) who has said that he believes the radiologist was incorrect in his diagnosis and after viewing the many levels of the MRI graphics said he was fairly positive that it was not cancer at all, but rather a hemangioma (lower right lobe of liver). My husband is in no pain - he does not drink AT ALL and is extremely healthy. The Mt. Sinai specialist has, howeve ...   [retrieve this message]
      • I have also been diagnosised with liver hemangioma. I was e...   #94695   11y
         
        I have also been diagnosised with liver hemangioma. I was experiencing a pain in my lower right high thigh, right where my leg attaches to my body. My Gyno thought that I might have indometriosis, so she did a laproscopy.......nothing. She then sent me to a internal med doc. He thought that it might be a hernia.....not. They then saw that my liver had these lesions. He suggested that we wait 3-months to see if there is any growth. My Gyno called back and wants me to see a gastroinstesional doc. I made an appt. with a very well-known clinic that treats all diagnosis, and has a VERY good rep ...   [retrieve this message]
      • They do not ever do biopsies on hemangiomas, because of the...   coffee1st   8mo
         
        They do not ever do biopsies on hemangiomas, because of the risk of bleeding and rupture. After an ultrasound, typically your doctor will have you do a CT Scan (with contrast, and hemangioma protocol) or an MRI. A CT or MRI can almost definitively identify a hemangioma since it is a mass of tangled veins vs. a cancerous mass. Biopsies are just not done on these.   [End]
    • I was recently diagnosed with three Haemangioma’s of the li...   griffiths1971   11y
       
      I was recently diagnosed with three Haemangioma’s of the liver. Two are approx 5cm in diameter & one has grown abnormally large and is 13cm diamater. They have been growing for approximately 2 years, which would explain my ill health over that period of time. I spent 2 years visiting doctors to no avail, I even had a laperoscopy in 2001, but unfortunately my GP thought my problem was a gynae one, and didn’t investigate the liver. Everything came to a head about 3 months ago when I was having severe chest pains & nausea. I gave up on the National Health Service and paid for an ultra sound p ...   [retrieve this message]
    • I also have pain and was just diagnosed with 2 giant cavern...   coffee1st   8mo
       
      I also have pain and was just diagnosed with 2 giant cavernous hemangiomas. Yes, I think it’s related. A family member has the same condition with the same symptoms I have. I don’t think it is confirmed in any medical research, but I have seen it mentioned at many websites (pain assoc. with hemangiomas). If yours are more than 5 cm in size - you need to talk to your doctor about your options.   [End]
  • Had gallbadder surgery.......   Jo   12y
     
    Does anyone know? I have had gallbadder surgery. Should I still clean my Liver? Will my liver make stones still? Wow. I guess I should of asked these questions before surgery but I didn’t. I will ask my doctor too but wanted to ask you too. jo   [End]
  • My first Gallstone Cleansing was a sucess   Michelle   12y
     
    Hi, ... ... I just wanted to share with everybody that I did my first cleansing two days ago. It was a sucess and the it wasn’t bad at all. ... The Epsom Salt was the worst of it (it tastes reall bad) but the next morning I went to the bathroom and there they were....the ... gallstones were floating!! I flushed about 20 if that, but im exited to repeat the cleansing!! I have shared this journey of trying not to ... have surgery with my family and friends and told them I was doing this the natural way. They were skeptical at first but they were ... all really exited that it worked and they too want to ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Help!!! - Ongoing discomfort in liver area after 1st Cleanse   Cookie   12y
     
    Hi Agnes & Lillian ... ... After completing my first flush I noticed I am more aware of where my liver is and it isn’t all in my head. It doesn’t hurt or anything, it just feels like pressure when you put on your bra or you fasten anything aroung the right side. It gives me the feeling like its slightly larger on my right side than before. My flush was done over 2 months ago and the feeling is still there. What exactly is this, could my liver now be enlarged from the fat of the olive oil, or perhaps is that a result of stones from the back moving forward prompting another cleanse. I figured wi ...   [retrieve this message]
    • According to what I’ve read, a single flush is rarely adequ...   John Cullison   12y
       
      According to what I’ve read, a single flush is rarely adequate to completely flush out all the stones. You may have flushed out a bunch of stones but then put more into more imposing positions which are still waiting to be removed. According to what I’ve read from Dr. Hulda Clark, after a single flush, stones ”at the back” have moved forward but are still lodged in there, needing to be flushed. ... ... Perhaps you should flush a few more times. ... ... Just a thought -- IANAD. ...   [End]
    • He passed 800 stones. What is this feeling we’re having in ...   UserX   12y
       
      He passed 800 stones. What is this feeling we’re having in our liver now? Did something possibly go wrong? We’re not in pain and does it eventually go away? ... ... ... I agree with John. ... ... One flush is not enough! ... ... Stones are moving from the place where they were created, and are causing discomfort. ... ... ... Please read as many stories posted here, you will see that it often takes several flushes to get most stones out. ... ... ... Most people (older then 25) need at least 8 - 15 flushes to completely clean their liver. ... ... If you are doing one flush every 2 weeks, that means 4 months of flushing. ... ... ...   [retrieve this message]
  • no gallbladder   #165094   12y
     
    Hi-Just started reading here...and was wondering, with all t his talk about liver/gallbladder flush, what if you don’t have a gallbladder ... anymore? :) In January, I had mine removed in emergency surgery. ... Does this affect my thoughts to attempting this liver flush? I have other medical reasons for giving it some thought. ... thanks for any thoughts. ... ... ... ...   [End]
    • Does this affect my thoughts to attempting this liver flush...   UserX   12y
       
      Does this affect my thoughts to attempting this liver flush? ... ... ... ... Yes, you can do the flush. ... ... That question is one of the FAQ, and is explained on Liver Cleanse FAQ Page. ... ... Link to Liver Cleanse FAQ Page is below this message. ... ... ... ... Agnes   [End]
  • liver cleanse amazing..   R #161664   12y
     
    After doing 5 liver flushes, about a 1000 or more stones most have come out as a minimum. I am sure the nummber would be larger if I counted the minute, needle size stones as more have come out like this. I usually consider the very visible stones of larger than pea size as true stones. ... ... I recently did a liver flush last week and about 150 stones came out. The second time about fifty or more stones were large like grapes or slightly smaller. I consider size to be an indicator of how good the flush was, since more space is now freed in the body. The stones that I have viewed have r ...   [retrieve this message]
    • I am of good to average health , some acne, allergies. ... ...   UserX   12y
       
      I am of good to average health , some acne, allergies. ... ... ... ... ... Have you seen any change on your skin (acne), or in regards to your allergies? ... ... It is possible that it is too early. ... ... Regards ... Agnes ... ...   [End]
      • ... ... ... ... ... ... I am of good to ...   #161664   12y
         
        ... ... ... ... ... ... I am of good to average health , some acne, allergies. ... ... ... ... ... Have you seen any change on your skin (acne), or in regards to your allergies? ... ... ... A week ago I saw a change in my skin. Around that time I was also following a diet composed more of fruits and vegetables while avoiding the candies, hamburgers, fatty chemicalized foods, basically less processed foods. I saw my face become smoother, more silky to the touch and generrally shinier, there were less blemishes and acne and a generally clearer complexion. There was still some signs but to a les ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Two to three days later I do the liver flush again. Even t...   Mary   12y
       
      Two to three days later I do the liver flush again. Even the weekly flushes seem to be too slow. I have considered two flushes a week but have chosen for now to settle for one. ... ... ... The stones do need time to move down so that you can flush them out. Also I think the body does need time ... to recover from the flushing procedure and the fasting. I think once every week or two is plenty, But I am glad you ... are so sucesessful and are feeling better. ... ... Mary   [End]
  • My xx liver flush experience - "breaking the rules"   UserX   12y
     
    ... ... 10 days ago I did my xx liver flush. I lost counting, this one could be somewhere between 20 and 30. ... ... ... I did first flush 5 years ago, when I did about 8 flushes with 2 weeks a part. ... ... ... My first ”stone-free flush” was my 8th flush, the same year. ... ... ... Since then, I have had several times ”stone-free flush”. After stone-free flush, I usually do next flush 10 days later, to make sure I am really stone-free. ... ... If the second flush is stone-free, then I take a break for 3 - 5 months. ... That was last 3 years. ... ... ... ... This time, I decided to break one rule - ”eat no fat”. ... ... ... Morning b ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Greetings Agnes: ... ... This post may not reach you since...   Giz   11y
       
      Greetings Agnes: ... ... This post may not reach you since it is a year old, but its worth a try for me. ”Most of my food intolerances disapeared after 2 years of cleansing”. When you said that did you mean liver cleanses or total cleanses? ... ... I will be doing flush # 32 shortly and my assorted food intoleances have not changed so far. I had a root canalled tooth removed yesterday I really hope that that helped. ... Giz.   [End]
  • I am constipated starting a liver cleanse again what am i d...   Rose   12y
     
    I have started another liver cleanse - I am not sure what I am doing wrong - However - I am not highly educated in this area, I have read and read all the emails online here, but I did a cleanse a couple weeks ago and doing aother one now, the first time around I was constipated but I am constipated again help!!!! Please forgive me if I have misunderstood anything cause I truly belive this works! thank you Rose   [End]
  • Pretreatment to Liver Flush   Cookie   12y
     
    Hi Agnes or Lillian, ... ... Is it okay to take liver cleansers 1 week prior or day after the liver flush or is that to much on the liver? I have a tonic with Milk thistle, Dandelion root, etc. in it. I was wondering would that aid in decongesting the liver first so more bile can flow to push out liver and gallstones. Please respond soon. I would like to do another liver cleanse soon. ... ... Cookie   [End]
    • Is it okay to take liver cleansers 1 week prior or day afte...   #69242   12y
       
      Is it okay to take liver cleansers 1 week prior or day after the liver flush or is that to much on the liver? I have a tonic with Milk thistle, Dandelion root, etc. in it. I was wondering would that aid in decongesting the liver first so more bile can flow to push out liver and gallstones. ... Is it okay to take liver cleansers 1 week prior or day after the liver flush or is that to much on the liver? I have a tonic with Milk thistle, Dandelion root, etc. in it. I was wondering would that aid in decongesting the liver first so more bile can flow to push out liver and gallstones. ... ... ... ...   [retrieve this message]
  • really scared about toe thing and flushes   connie   12y
     
    Hi: I have read the message about the toe pain, I have pain in my toe area when I am jogging on the treadmill. After a while into my jog the pain goes away.. I very rarely but sometimes get a throbbing when just walking around. I have gallstones but am frightened to do the cleanse, Now I am really frightened because of what you said the toe pain can be attributed to ( I know perhaps it may be something differ)I am also frightened because I don’t want a bad experience with the flush. What can I do. I haven’t had a gallblader attack for 3 months I am taking herbs which seem to help . But ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Lime tree sap-wood   #162482   12y
     
    Lime tree sap-wood (In French: aubier de tilleul du Roussillon, in Italian: alburno di tiglio)is highly-esteemed in France as one of the best ancient preventative cures for gallbladder sand and stones and for liver health   [End]
  • Zapper, Beck's Magnetic Pulser, parasites, cancer & diabetes   R Duncan   12y
     
    ... To: mscured@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”duncanmcdowell” ... Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 03:40:10 -0000 ... Subject: [mscured] Zapper Testimonial ... ... ... ... Hi All, ... Good News! ... ... ... My best friend at work has had cancer for over a year and was taking ... progressively stronger and stronger doses of chemo, but the cancer ... kept growing while he was getting very sick from the chemo side ... effects. Eventually he quit taking the chemo, as it wasn’t working ... and was just making him very sick. ... ... ... I gave him a copy of the complete Beck protocol notes and a copy of ... the Hulda Clark book , Cure for All Canc ...   [retrieve this message]
  • [gallstones] mini flushes, mini attacks, and the oil cure   azdmarie   12y
     
    ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”azdmarie” ... Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 23:35:20 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] mini flushes, mini attacks, and the oil cure ... ... ... Howdy folks, I just returned from a two week emergency trip to ... support my family in the last days of a dying relative, attend the ... funeral, etc. My gall bladder did not realize I was on vacation. Ha! ... I had planned a cleanse the weekend I left, so decided to mini the ... flush and here is what happened. I halved the amount of ES and mixed ... it with apple juice. (I was on the road) Had the oil, juice mixture ... an hour lat ...   [retrieve this message]
  • My experience so far...   R John Cullison   12y
     
    Hi, ... ... I haven’t completed my program yet, but I thought I’d share with you what I’ve experienced so far. I’m a 32-year-old caucasian male, currently about 40-50 pounds overweight. ... ... Last year, I had an acute gallbladder colic ”attack”. After a few days of enduring this, I went to an ER, and after an ultrasound, they confirmed that I did in fact have gall stones. I thought maybe it was just an ulcer. I had just lost some 90 pounds over the previous eighteen months, and my method was less than healthy, however, so it seems I was ripe for a gall stone attack. ... ... Of course, they wanted t ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Are your toes healthy? Big toe? - Dear Agnes & Lillian, ple...   george   12y
     
    The reason I ask for this relevance is because 8 months a go, my big toes started to feel sore, especially when I contract them towards my shins. ... ... Thankyou, George   [End]
    • The reason I ask for this relevance is because 8 months a g...   #69242   12y
       
      The reason I ask for this relevance is because 8 months a go, my big toes started to feel sore, especially when I contract them towards my shins. ... ... ... ... George, ... ... big toes are direcly related to liver and pancreas/spleen health. ... ... ... In traditional chinese medicine, liver energy meridian starts beside big toe nail (left side of the nail on the left leg, right side of the nail on the right leg). ... ... ... Pancreas/spleen energy meridian starts on the other side of big toe nail. ... ... When energy flow is obstructed, pain and symptoms arise. ... ... ... When the area is painfull, it is sign of poor liver ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Gallbladder Removed! Bad Idea!   #164251   12y
     
    ... ... When I was 21,, I was told I had to have my Gallbladder removed. So I had it done after being in the hospital for five days. Every since I have had no energy at all, store fat in my body, and I can’t remember my own age half the time....I am now (i think) 25. Why are these things happening to me and oh yes the next year I was diagnosed with vulva cancer, a rare cancer for anyone but really rare for someone my age! Now I am fighting this disease along with many other health problems! can anyone tell me why and also tell me how to be healthy without my Gallbladder? Thank you very much. ... ...   [retrieve this message]
    • ... ... ... yes my aunt had her gallbladder removed a mon...   #164251   12y
       
      ... ... ... yes my aunt had her gallbladder removed a month ago and has been in the hospital every since with pancreitis and it is not looking very good for her. ... ... They lost some stones somewhere inside and thought they got them all but now know they didn’t. Now she may have to have another surgery........if she makes it through. ... ... I need to know how serious pancreatitis is? ... ... She can no longer eat they are feeding her with a tube in her neck at this point, she is in constant pain as well. Any information will be appreciated. ... ... thank you ...   [End]
      • Hi My name is Karen and I have been trying myself to find o...   #163573   11y
         
        Hi My name is Karen and I have been trying myself to find out more about pancreitis. My sister age27 just had her galbladder removed about 2 weeks ago and was back in the hospital this saturday 1 week after her sugery, she is going through the same thing they won’t or can’t feed her any thing not even liquids she looks like she is starving they are giving her some thing through the I.V. The doctor said that her panceias is invlamed and she just has to wait it out! That just seems funny to me , What can they do with them? Have you found out what can happen if their pancreitis dosen’t go awa ...   [retrieve this message]
        • I went thru the same thing! I had a baby and 3 weeks later ...   daocmom   11y
           
          I went thru the same thing! I had a baby and 3 weeks later went into the hospital for a week after being admitted thru the ER for Gallstone attacks. I was diagnosed with severe pancreatitus, and my dr said I had to wait it out as well. I really think there is no other way to bring the swelling down. I had my GB removed, and 3 weeks later I was back in the Hospital because I had another attack, and some renegade stones floating around near my liver. This last surgery happened about a month ago, and I am having back and chest pain like I did before with the pancreatitus, and my dr wants me t ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Re: HELP! Spring is coming ....   R Southern Belle   12y
     
    Message origianlly posted at allergies forum: ... ... Hi ... ... I have allergies - year round allergies. Last year I decided to get tested and it turns out that I’m allergic to just about everything. Especially cladosporium (the black stuff under leaves) and dust. ... Hi ... ... I have allergies - year round allergies. Last year I decided to get tested and it turns out that I’m allergic to just about everything. Especially cladosporium (the black stuff under leaves) and dust. ... ... I have allergies - year round allergies. Last year I decided to get tested and it turns out that I’m allergi ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Very big and hard gallstones?   #166752   12y
     
    Bear with me on this one. It gets kind of graphic! But I need advice. ... ... I did my 3rd liver cleanse this weekend. The last one I did was one year and 15 lbs. ago. I knew I needed to do this because my gallbladder just ”felt” full. ... ... I was surprised at how much bigger these gallstones were than ever before. Anyway, I developed a problem later Saturday evening and Sunday morning. I did the flush on Friday night with great success but started developing constipation by Saturday night. I felt that there was just something blocking my bowel opening. After some major pushing and hurtin ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Hi Weebs, ... ... Thank you for responding to my message. ...   Cookie   12y
       
      Hi Weebs, ... ... Thank you for responding to my message. In regards to your problem, my brother-in-law had the same thing happen. I’m guessing that while the stones were coming down the digestive tract they were dissolving and merging together. Keep yourself hydrated, perhaps drinking more water will make them dissolve giving you more diarrhea softening the stool. This happened when my sister drank more water. Hopefully this will help you on your next cleanse. ... ... Cookie   [End]
    • You might try getting some gold coin grass tincture. It’s ...   John Cullison   12y
       
      You might try getting some gold coin grass tincture. It’s known to soften gall stones. Do a web search and you should be able to find information and vendors. ...   [End]
  • Liver/Gallbladder Flush   Joy   12y
     
    I have had severe food allergies for several years. I feel best when I am on the Eat Right For Your Type Diet. ... Last night I finally did a L/G Flush. Today I passed a couple dozen small greenish stones. I also have been passing numerous tiny dark ... brown seed like things. Are they hepatic stones? Will this help with my food allergies? I also have Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue. ... Thanks ... Joy   [End]
    • I also have been passing numerous tiny dark brown seed like...   UserX   12y
       
      I also have been passing numerous tiny dark brown seed like things. ... ... ... ... Joy, ... ... can you describe more ”tiny dark brown seed like things”. ... ... Are those ”seed like things” all of the same size and shape, or are they all different? ... ... Agnes ...   [End]
  • Slight Discomfort In Liver area after 1st Flush   Cookie   12y
     
    I guys, ... ... After completing my first flush I notice I am more aware of where my liver is and it isn’t all in my head. It doesn’t hurt or anything, it just feels like pressure when you put on your bra or you fasten anything aroung the right side. My flush was done over 2 months ago and the feeling is still there. What exactly is this, could my liver now be enlarged from the fat of the olive oil, or perhaps is that a result of stones from the back moving forward prompting another cleanse. I figured with all the people that have done one this may be a familiar side effect of this cleanse. ...   [retrieve this message]
    • I am having the same symptoms.....only I do have discomfort...   #166752   12y
       
      I am having the same symptoms.....only I do have discomfort off and on. It’s gone now, but I did the flush this weekend. But I can still feel pressure. ... ... It is highly likely that some stones have moved forward in your liver. Dr. Hulda Clark advises to keep doing liver cleanses until you have gotten about 2000 stones in all out. You can do them as often as every 2 weeks. ... ... Let me know how it goes! ... ... Weebs ...   [End]
  • Need help for friend suffering after GB surgery, please.   tisha   12y
     
    I just recently posted about my friend who did a liver cleanse but then had to have her GB removed because the doctor said it was only functioning at 8%. She is struggling to eat. She can’t eat anything without becoming nauseous. I tried to read some post-surgery GB letters to see what has been done. I read that it is good to eat foods with good fat to give the bile something to do. Is that correct? I would be anxious to hear from anyone with advice about how to help my friend. I’m not really sure what to do for her. ... ... Also I wondered if it is possible to repair the gall bladder? ...   [retrieve this message]
  • increased discomfort now after gallstone flush? What's wron...   Lisa   12y
     
    I have never been diagnosed with gallstones officially. Nothing has shown up on x-rays. I had a dull ache in my upper right abdoment 2 years ago, and it eventually went away. It came back about 3 months ago, and is now accompanied by pain in the right shoulder blade. I’ve never really had what I consider an ”attack.” Just an ache that is sometimes more noticeable, and sometimes less noticeable. Anyhow, I did my first flush two nights ago, and passed probably 150 or so gravel sized green stones. I realize that I will need to continue flushing every few weeks to get totally cleaned out. Bu ...   [retrieve this message]
    • I did my first flush two nights ago, and passed probably 1...   Agnes   12y
       
      I did my first flush two nights ago, and passed probably 150 or so gravel sized green stones. I realize that I will need to continue flushing every few weeks to get totally cleaned out. But I really thought that this first flush would relieve some of the pressure. Instead, I’m having increased pain in my abdomen. I haven’t even been eating any fat yet. Any ideas on why I might be having increased pain? Could this be related to anything other than the gallbladder? ... ... ... ... Lisa, ... we need to know more, in order to give you any good advice. ... ... How old are you? ... Height? Weight? Ethnical back ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: increased discomfort now after gallstone flush?... here...   Lisa   12y
         
        Agnes and Lillian, ... Maybe this information will help: I am 30 years old. I’m about 5 ft. 9, 160 lbs. I have had four children in the last 6 1/2 years. I am a caucasian female. I don’t know my blood type off hand. I’m not sure what p-pils are--do you mean birth control? If so, I took them for a few months right after I got married, but not since then. I believe my toes are healthy. Nothing looks abnormal. My small toenail on my right foot is cracked vertically, I’m assuming because I have really wide feet and that toe bears the burden in my shoes. My left big toe has a couple of horizontal ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Re: increased discomfort now after gallstone flush? ... her...   R #69242   12y
           
          Agnes and Lillian, ... Maybe this information will help: I am 30 years old. I’m about 5 ft. 9, 160 lbs. I have had four children in the last 6 1/2 years. I am a caucasian female. I don’t know my blood type off hand. I’m not sure what p-pils are--do you mean birth control? If so, I took them for a few months right after I got married, but not since then. I believe my toes are healthy. Nothing looks abnormal. My small toenail on my right foot is cracked vertically, I’m assuming because I have really wide feet and that toe bears the burden in my shoes. My left big toe has a couple of horizonta ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: increased discomfort now after gallstone flush? What's ...   anonymouse   12y
       
      im having those same problems too, for a long time, whats up?   [End]
      • After 6 flushes, I have the same problem too. I finally w...   Liverlittle   12y
         
        After 6 flushes, I have the same problem too. I finally went and had some tests done (liver and gallbladder ultrasound and chest x-ray). I’ll let you know when the results are in. The doctor doesn’t think it’s my gallbladder though. The flushes were successful in that I flushed out hundreds of different stones.   [End]
        • After 6 flushes, I have the same problem too. I finally w...   #69242   12y
           
          After 6 flushes, I have the same problem too. I finally went and had some tests done (liver and gallbladder ultrasound and chest x-ray). I’ll let you know when the results are in. The doctor doesn’t think it’s my gallbladder though. The flushes were successful in that I flushed out hundreds of different stones. ... After 6 flushes, I have the same problem too. I finally went and had some tests done (liver and gallbladder ultrasound and chest x-ray). I’ll let you know when the results are in. The doctor doesn’t think it’s my gallbladder though. The flushes were successful in that I ...   [retrieve this message]
      • i use to be keen on the idea about this liver flush , but n...   anonymouse   12y
         
        i use to be keen on the idea about this liver flush , but now there is evidence that those stones dont come from our liver/gallbladder, ... but that they come as a result of stomach acid acting on the oil/lemon juice mixture. ... for some reason after my third flush i have incredible pain hours after eating any food. i have few guesses as to what the problem is. ... one of those is that so much oil is causing the liver to be overworked, and therefore cannot easily handle other foods. ... ... im not a medical doctor , and these people here are not either.. ... dr hulda clark is a quack, and has been arrest ...   [retrieve this message]
        • i use to be keen on the idea about this liver flush , but n...   R #69242   12y
           
          i use to be keen on the idea about this liver flush , but now there is evidence that those stones dont come from our liver/gallbladder, but that they come as a result of stomach acid acting on the oil/lemon juice mixture. ... ... For some reason after my third flush i have incredible pain hours after eating any food. i have few guesses as to what the problem is. ... one of those is that so much oil is causing the liver to be overworked, and therefore cannot easily handle other foods. ... For some reason after my third flush i have incredible pain hours after eating any food. i have few guesses ...   [retrieve this message]
    • ... i would to see a few testimonials about people that hav...   anonymouse   12y
       
      ... i would to see a few testimonials about people that have flushed enough to the point where they no longer get stones out, or greatly reduced numbers of stones. ... thus proving the stones do not come from the olive oil mixture. ... ... where is proof of analysis of what the stones are made of?   [End]
      • where is proof of analysis of what the stones are made of? ...   R #69242   12y
         
        where is proof of analysis of what the stones are made of? ... ... ... There is a story reported in The Lancet, medical journal. ... ... ”Apple Juice and the Chemical-Contact Softening of Gallstones,” Dekkers R, Lancet, December 18/25, 1999;354:2171. #34484. ... Lancet December 18/25, 1999 354:2171 ... ... ... Gallbladder Surgery Alternative ... ... The Lancet reported the use of one quart of pure apple juice for one week. After one full week of the apple juice one cup of olive oil was used just before going to bed. The person was instructed to lay on their left side during the night. ... ... ... This is an anecdotal case ...   [retrieve this message]
      • where is proof of analysis of what the stones are made of? ...   R #69242   12y
         
        where is proof of analysis of what the stones are made of? ... ... ... Dr. Koh analyzed stones. ... The stones were found to consist entirely of cholesterol. ... ... ... Here is the story. ... ... From: ... http://www.healthlibrary.com/reading/rebello/pg39.htm ... ... ... Olive Oil Treatment for Gallstones ... by Dr. D. Koh ... ... Dept. of Social Medicine and Public Health ... ... National University of Singapore, Lower Kent Ridge Road, Singapore 0511. ... ... ... Koh reports here a case of spontaneous passage of multiple cholesterol gall-stones after self-treatment with olive oil and lemon juice. ... ... It is estimated that gallstones are pr ...   [retrieve this message]
      • thus proving the stones do not come from the olive oil mixt...   UserX   12y
         
        thus proving the stones do not come from the olive oil mixture. ... ... ... Both me and Lillian have had several flushes with no stones. ... ... I personally know over 10 people who came to the point that no stone come’s out. ... ... If you read all messages posted in this forum, you will read at least 10 stories of people who finally came to the point of getting 0 stones out. ... ... ... Agnes   [End]
  • [gallstones] Colic-Flush....NOT!!!   Barry   12y
     
    ... Message originally posted to gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... ... ... ================================================== ... To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: ”barry91162” ... Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 05:25:37 -0000 ... Subject: [gallstones] Colic-Flush....NOT!!! ... ... ... Hey Flushers, ... ... ... Last night I tried the ’colic-flush’ theory. Flushing while having an ... attack. Whereas it may work for someone, it didn’t for me. It was a ... living hell that ended up in ER at 4am in the morning. Never again ... for this flusher. ... ... ... I was thinking of trying to do it like Dusans grandmother. Remember ... that story ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Ate regularly all day. At night, had a big bowl of dry popc...   UserX   12y
       
      Ate regularly all day. At night, had a big bowl of dry popcorn. ... ... Barry, ... ... I am sorry to hear about your bad experience. ... It is good that antispasmodic medicine works wonders for you. ... ... ... Now, in your case, primary attack was most likely caused by corn intolerance (or fats that popcorn was made on). ... ... Up to 15- 20% US population have some form of corn intolerance. (Not all of them recognize intolerance symptoms. Sometimes those symptoms are very mild.) ... ... Very many people suffering from allergies, eczema, ADD-ADHD, celiac, psoriasis, digestive problems, IBD, IBS, constipation, .... ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Dear Agnes, ... ... Thanks for the tip about popcorn, but ...   Barry   12y
         
        Dear Agnes, ... ... Thanks for the tip about popcorn, but it was the purpose to create the colic attack and then flush while the stone was in the optimum position to exit out of the mouth of the gallbladder. The regular flush doesn’t contract my gb enough to push out my problem stone. Also, the ES has a relaxing effect on not only my ducts but it also relaxes the contracting gb too much to get out this 1cm hard gallstone. ... So, the idea was to create an attack by eating the popcorn, get the stone in the best position to exit, and then do the oil drink without ES. ... The results were not what I w ...   [retrieve this message]
        • Thanks for the tip about popcorn, but it was the purpose to...   Agnes   12y
           
          Thanks for the tip about popcorn, but it was the purpose to create the colic attack and then flush while the stone was in the optimum position to exit out of the mouth of the gallbladder. The regular flush doesn’t contract my gb enough to push out my problem stone. ... ... ... ... Barry, ... ... You are brave! ... ... Agnes & Lillian ...   [End]
    • To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: rachel~ ... Date:...   rachel   12y
       
      To: gallstones@yahoogroups.com ... From: rachel~ ... Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 23:10:20 EST ... Subject: Re: [gallstones] Colic-Flush....NOT!!! ... ... ... ... Barry ... ... I think it’s important to keep in mind that the other flusher (me) is in a ... VERY different situation than you are. You’ve been in the ER countless times ... for your pain, I’ve been there once (and didn’t actually see a doctor because ... the pain went away on it’s own while I waited). Your attacks happen 2-3 ... times a week, if I recall correctly, and mine once a month. Yours last for ... hours, mine for less than 30 minutes usually. While it’ ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Barry, ... ... I was thinking of something that Agnes sai...   tisha   12y
       
      Barry, ... ... I was thinking of something that Agnes said recently. Someone was talking about not getting stones out, I think, and she said that it was our liver’s decision when to release the stones. And that sometimes our liver may be really in need of cleansing and needs to heal before it can fully release stones. She said that some people had not seen ”the big one” til their 18th or 19th cleanse. ... ... Maybe you don’t need to do anything spectacular in order to remove the stones. You just need to keep doing it. I know I was disappointed to not get stones out on my third (just chaff) and ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Olive oil and reflux?   Gill   12y
     
    I am really new to all this, as you can tell by my last messgae! ... I am really interested in doing a flush as I know I have parasites and my gallblader is showing signs of drudgery, I have so many questions but will try and keep this short. With my reflux I am suppose to stay away from oils and fats, which I do religiously, so how will it go drinking a glass of oil with the flush? Also I was just wondering when you are doing the flush particularly the olive oil part, is it still possible to go to work and go about your usual routine? Why am I imagineing being at work and getting my self int ...   [retrieve this message]
  • I did the cleanse again   R Raphe   12y
     
    Hello, how are you? I did the cleanse again. I think I am getting a lot out of this experience! (Joke!)... I plan to cleanse more often, maybe once a month, because prevention is better than cure. ... There weren’t any large stones, but there were a few the first time I went to the bathroom in the morning. That means I still have some cleansing to do. ... I am also asking my Dad if he would like to try it. ... Ciao.   [End]
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