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  • Mad Cow In Brazil, Denmark, Switzerland, Italy, Japan Etc.   #94749   13mo  C
     
    Mad Cow In Brazil, Denmark, Switzerland, Italy, Japan Etc. ... ... Footnote: http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/01/15/dismissing-mad-cow-as-a-random-mutation/ ... ... ... Infoplease.com reports that countries that have had recent cases of mad cow disease ... include the Czech Republic, Ireland, Northern Ireland, ... France, Germany, Greece, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, ... Switzerland, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Italy, and Japan. ... ... The link quote does not include incidents of Mad Cow in the US, Brazil, or Canada. A link about possible Mad Cow ... in Australia is below. ... htt ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Mad Cow In Brazil, Denmark, Switzerland, Italy, Japan E...   #94749   11mo
       
      revised article ... ... Column : Coverup Re Mad Cow in Brazil, Japan, Switzerland, US, Canada, Netherlands, Denmark ... ... http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/01/15/dismissing-mad-cow-as-a-random-mutation/ ... ... ... Infoplease.com reports that countries that have had recent cases of Mad Cow disease ... include the Czech Republic, Ireland, Northern Ireland, ... France, Germany, Greece, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, ... Switzerland, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein, Italy, and Japan. Reuters and other sites reports on Mad Cow in the US, Canada, Estonia, Poland ... ... Poland and Estonia h ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Mad Cow Disease Confirmed In California Dairy Cow   #136970   24mo
     
    ... ... If foreign countries ban U. S. beef, it could become significantly cheaper ... here. ... ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/24/mad-cow-disease-california-usda_n_1449871.html ... ... Mad Cow Disease Confirmed In California Dairy Cow, USDA ... Says ... ... Posted: 04/24/2012 3:08 pm ... ... The USDA has confirmed that a case of mad cow disease was found in a ... California dairy cow. It is the fourth case of mad cow, or bovine spongiform ... encephalopathy (BSE), found in U.S. cattle since the first in December 2003. ... ... USDA Chief Veterinary Officer John Clifford said Tuesday afternoon that the ... cow did not en ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Howard Lyman is one of many who have publicized for many .....   frugivorous   15mo
       
      Howard Lyman is one of many who have publicized for many ... years the truth about Mad Cow, Mad Pig, Mad Sheep, Mad Lamb, ... Mad Chicken, Mad Fish etc. ... http://www.madcowboy.com ... ... He was with Oprah Winfrey sued twice by Texas cattlemen. ... The 5th Circuit Court upheld him saying the truth is not libel. ... ... Mad Cow has been mislabeled meningitis, brain tumor, Alzheimer’s, etc.   [End]
  • Video Embedded [video/audio embedded] super huge cow created   adamson77   6y  C
     
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  • Confirmed case possible cure   nesara311   7y
     
    ... http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/anima/heasan/disemala/bseesb/ab2007/11notavie.shtml ... ... ... ... ... http://mmsmiracle.com/nesara311 ... Read the entire site , It mentions it can pass through the blood brain barrier and disable the critters   [End]
    • Yes I found mention of this here:   spdina   7y
       
      ... http://mmsmiracle.com/about/ ...   [End]
      • Jim Humble is a fraud ,to make these claims exposes how lit...   2Sirius   6y
         
        Jim Humble is a fraud ,to make these claims exposes how little he understands these spongeform diseases! ... How does sodium chloride fit into a copper/manganese imbalance??????? ... It does’nt ! More BS from the MMS crowd!   [End]
        • Clarification: ... ... It’s sodium chlorITE (MMS - NaClO2)...   #95262   6y
           
          Clarification: ... ... It’s sodium chlorITE (MMS - NaClO2), not sodium chloride (table salt - NaCl). Note futher, the MMS protocol converts sodium chlorITE to chlorine DIOXIDE (ClO2). To make a worthy point you must first understood the basic chemistry of what you’re referring to. ... ... As you know, BSE is a protein based pathogen. The page referenced does NOT actually say any more than this, nor does Jim Humble’s writings. One may benefit themselves and others best by first reading the material more objectively. ... ... Lastly, if BSE is acidic in nature - as most pathogens are - it stands to reas ...   [retrieve this message]
          • ”we do not yet know and it is important to understand that ...   2Sirius   6y
             
            ”we do not yet know and it is important to understand that Jim Humble does not state such nor is the MMS movement founded upon it.” ... ... ... ... ... Then why do you make unfounded miracle claims? Dont you think delaying proper treatment by promoting little more then an empty promise is unethical?!   [End]
  • It is time to take back our health care!   #16098   7y  C
     
    The federal government has turned a free market health care system ... that was once the envy of the world into a centrally-managed ... disaster. Few people realize that 35 years ago Congress forced the ... current system on the American people. While patients and doctors used ... to be in charge, now corporate America, HMOs, big drug companies, and ... government bureaucrats command the ship. The results: the latest data ... from the World Health Organization ranks the U.S. system 37th in the world. ... ... This coming presidential election, we have an extremely rare chance to ... reverse course. Dr. Ron Paul is a ...   [retrieve this message]
    • You know, I don’t even know the difference between Text, Ht...   #69242   6y
       
      You know, I don’t even know the difference between Text, Html or whatever other choices there were....Now that you know I’m an idiot,....Look, Ron Paul person: I think that’s great that you’re all excited about Ron Paul. Really. I was young once, too. Raises the level of debate and all that. And I know that people like you are rarely open to an opposing point of view [or open to anything, really....] but if you think about it, you are decrying the fact that ...whomever, WHO? rated us ....37th?...again, whatever,...as far as our health ”system”. Then you blame this on what little ”centr ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Mad Cow Disease -The Chemical Industry Plays Dirty   Celcius   7y
     
    ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... Rense.com ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... ... ... ... ... Mad Cow Disease -The ... Chemical Industry Plays Dirty ... By Paul Kail, PhD ... ... http://www.freezerbox.com ... ... 2-5-01 ... ... ... ... BSE (Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy), or Mad Cow Disease, and its human form, nvCJD (New Variant Creutzfeldt-Jacob Disease), are incurable brain disorders. Holes appear in victims’ brains, then they become demented and die. The diseases are not caused by a virus or a bacterium, but by a mys ...   [retrieve this message]
    • ... Hi ... ... About 10 years ago there was a documentary ...   pawel110   6y
       
      ... Hi ... ... About 10 years ago there was a documentary that was shown - i cannot remember the channel on which it was shown. ... It detailed the link between organophosphates and mad cow disease (BSE) and the human variant CJD which occurs after ingesting affected meat stock or being exposed to the chemicals that are typically poured over the backs/spines of the animals that supposedly require treatment. ... ... After that documentary there was no more airing of the subject and the connection between organophosphates and BSE/cjd was forgotten. ... ... It seems that the government and the departments that a ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Purdey dead at 52 ????   2Sirius   6y
         
        This is par for the course! Those with life saving knowledge that exposes the powers that be die young!   [End]
  • Mad Cow, Mad Pig, Mad Sheep, Mad Chicken, Mad Fish, Mad De...   frugivore   7y  C
     
    There has been a criminal conspiracy by the USDA under Glickman, Veneman and the ... present secretary, by FDA, CDC, HHS and other agencies to muzzle the truth ... about the many species whose flesh transmits BSE, PSE, CSE, ASE ... etc. ... ... A Purina herd in Sutherland Springs Texas was ordered destroyed and ... the disease labeled ’meningitis’. ... ... Mad Cow and other spongiform encephalopathy deaths are called encephalitis, meningitis, brain tumor, Alzheimer’s, ... food poisoning etc. ... ... Many chicken concentration camp owners are giving the chickens food (feed is ... human chauvinism) containing cow pieces, r ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Another BSE perspective   Infinitelove   7y
     
    ... http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=647745#i ... ... ... The prions you speak of are crystals, resonated from a distance via ELF or extremely low frequencies, and the area of the last *mad cow* outbreak here in the U.S. was blanketed with ELF and Microwaves, as evidenced on 3 different weather and satellite maps of the area measuring such activities or presences... ... ... See ”Healing Codes For A Biological Apocalypse” by Dr. Leonard Horowitz for an understanding of how these ”prions” are a manmade, Illuminati invention, long ago planned for the Illuminist agenda. They were *turned on* at a distan ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Image Embedded Unhappy Cows   Aharleygyrl   7y  C
     
    ... ... Consumers are misled into thinking cows in the dairy industry are well treated when, in fact, most of California’s dairy cows live anything but easy lives. ... ... FOR THE ENVIRONMENT: ... ... C ow’s milk is an inefficient food source. Cows, like humans, expend the majority of their food intake simply leading their lives. It takes a great deal of grain and other foodstuffs cycled through cows to produce a small amount of milk. And not only is milk a waste of energy and water, the production of milk is also a disastrous source of water pollution. A dairy cow produces 120 pounds of waste ever ...   [retrieve this message]
    • not all cows are unhappy...   chkp1hc   7y
       
      I think your information is a little generalized. True, there are many cows that live in the conditions described, and a lot of the milk and meat from these farms is not fit for human consumption... ... But there is another side of the story. ... There is a growing trend of managed-grazing. Dairy cows rotated around paddocks of pasture (what they were intended to eat, and what makes amazingly healthy meat and milk). On good pasture, they may make 30-50lbs instead of 100lbs of milk, but it is plenty to feed 1 calf up to 4 months old AND to ”harvest” the rest at a profit. Their manure drops on ...   [retrieve this message]
      • Re: Unhappy Cows   Aharleygyrl   7y
         
        I am not sure even small farms would be able to make raw milk safe enough that we would not have to worry, although there are raw milk products in the stores.  They are ditributed by big corporations, though.  Here is a good article on raw milk: ... ... http://www.notmilk.com/forum/463.html ... ... From here: ... ... http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&safe=off&cof=&domains=notmilk.com&q=raw%2B... ... ... I am against all milk and milk products because I believe humans are not designed to drink the milk of a cow, that it is only for baby calves.  But, my blog does say this: ... ... Even raw milk is, in some wa ...   [retrieve this message]
        • If your belief is that it is not right to drink milk becaus...   chkp1hc   7y
           
          If your belief is that it is not right to drink milk because it was meant for calves, then that is a valid reason not to drink it--good for you. ... In my opinion, good milk and it’s products can be an invaluable source of Vit’s A and D, CLA’s, enzymes, etc. I find that most of the studies done on milk are not done on whole raw milk from cows raised on pasture that is grown on rich soils, making the claims that it causes breast cancer, allergies, and so on carry little weight. It is definitely possible to make this kind of milk on a small farm, just as possible as it is to grow vitamin/mine ...   [retrieve this message]
          • well, i think there are very few organic farms that are not...   Aharleygyrl   7y
             
            well, i think there are very few organic farms that are not part of corporate farms. horizon is even corporate and people don’t realize it. but, it is not the farmers fault, it is capitalism taking over everything and squeezing out the little guy. one of the best ways to view that happening is to look at all the mom and pop stores that are goen and all the super wal*marts everywhere. it is my understanding that we only drink cows milk because there was like a baby starving and the mother had no milk and they looked over and saw a cow, something like that. as far as i know, drinking mi ...   [retrieve this message]
  • My child care provider is a mad cow   shamrock4luck   9y
     
    Does that count,no kidden this morning she get in my face,for no reason,I think she has Mad cow .   [End]
  • Animal Pharm: Myth and Truth About Mad Cows Disease   Burnt Ice   10y
     
    Animal Pharm: Myth and Truth About Mad Cows Disease ... ... by Mark Purdey ... Source: Weston A. Price Foundation ... ... ... Note: As an organic farmer, Mark Purdey resisted the order to spray his cattle with organophosphates for warble fly and went to court for a judicial review; he won and was exempted from using the spray. No cows born in his herd developed BSE (mad cow disease). He has contributed numerous articles on the subject of BSE to scientific journals. He farms in Somerset, UK. This article appeared in Wise Traditions in Food, Farming and the Healing Arts, the quarterly magazine of the Westo ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Insecticide Causes Mad Cow Disease   Burnt Ice   10y
       
      Insecticide Causes Mad Cow Disease ... ... ... by Fintan Dunne ... Research by Kathy McMahon ... ... Reprinted from eionews.com, email - news@eionews.com ... ... ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... ... Pharmaceutical interests in the UK are ignoring new scientific research that shows the insecticide used in the UK government’s own warble-fly campaigns triggered the UK surge of ’Mad Cow’ disease. ... ... Latest experiments by Cambridge University prion specialist, David R. Brown, have shown that manganese bonds with prions. Other researchers work shows that prions ...   [retrieve this message]
  • MAD COW DISEASE   HealthProblem   10y
     
    I have a good friend who has had a close encounter with Mad Cow Disease. She found an article that helped her a lot in regards to understanding the problem and treatment options ... http://www.drlam.com/A3R_brief_in_doc_format/2002-No2-BeefChickenorFish.cfm ... I hope this can come to use for many others. I know that it gave me a stronger grasp on the topic, and now I feel like I can better help. ... Take Care- S ...   [End]
  • Mad cow update   daizy4   10y
     
    MAD COW In The U.S. ... ... By Jon Bonne ... ... From: MSNBC.com ... ... Was diseased cow indeed a ‘downer?’ ... Cattle hand that killed animal disputes USDA’s contention ... ... Jeff Green / Reuters file ... In December, Vern’s Moses Lake Meats voluntarily recalled over 10,000 pounds of raw beef due to concerns the products contained meat tainted with mad cow disease. ... ... ... By Jon Bonné ... MSNBC ... Updated: 7:34 p.m. ET Feb. 06, 2004On Dec. 23, as she told the nation of the first U.S. case of mad cow disease, Agriculture Secretary Ann Veneman emphasized one fact: the infected animal was already a high-risk suspect. ... ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re:Mad cow:Most people sleeping through presentation of evi...   DangerousProduce   10y
       
      Most people will still say, ”Where is the evidence” as their convenient rationalization to continue eating beef--minus a hot dog or two. They will look around themselves, see their friends and neighbors eating beef and conclude beef doesn’t hurt them, so eating beef is alright. All it takes is for one neighbor to eat beef, for someone who is prejudiced towards proving his theory (hypothesis) right--namely, that beef is still o.k., healthy and tasty. ... ... Look at the first sentence of the copied paragraph (below). ... Why decline to interview the veterinarian unless you want to hide or suppre ...   [retrieve this message]
    • Re: Mad cow update   DangerousProduce   10y
       
      If you do a Google search on ”David Louthan”, the headlines and one sentence excerpts make you believe that there was one downer cow in the U.S. and it was killed. And Louthan doesn’t know if he killed it or his boss (who worked by him). ... ... This contention, that downer cow meat is not filtered into the food system, is what David Louthan mainly disputes. Although you would never know it just from reading one article. ... ... ”Dave’s calling for 100% testing of all cattle intended for food. ... They used to just test the downer cattle for BSE, targeting the animals least likely to be infected, acco ...   [retrieve this message]
  • England   #1869   11y
     
    Is England entirely to blame for this desease?   [End]
  • Let's go visit a slaughter house.   hermit   11y
     
    Let’s go visit a slaughter house. ... ... Here are two site that should be of interest. ... http://www.realfoods.net/slaughterhouse.html ... http://www.realfoods.net/renderingplant.html ... ... The first one take you to a slaughter house. ... The second one takes you on a visit to a rendering plant where they use the byproducts of cattle to make dog food and other interesting things. ... It also talks about Mad Cow Disease. ... http://www.realfoods.net/slaughterhouse.html ... http://www.realfoods.net/renderingplant.html ...   [End]
  • Government is Supposed to Protect You   Lapis   11y
     
    Congress scuttled meat protection measure ... ... By MARK SHERMAN ... ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER ... ... WASHINGTON -- Legislation to keep meat from downed animals off American kitchen tables was scuttled - for the second time in as many years - as Congress labored unsuccessfully earlier this month to pass a catchall agency spending bill. ... ... Now, in the wake of the apparent discovery of the first mad-cow case in the United States, the author of the House version of the cattle provision wants to press the issue anew when Congress returns Jan. 20 from its winter recess. The massive, $373 billion spending bi ...   [retrieve this message]
    • ”It’s been here for decades, but that didn’t stop them from...   Lapis   11y
       
      ”It’s been here for decades, but that didn’t stop them from continuing the horrible practice of feeding cows meat and blood products. Now the Federal government will have even more excuses to get involved in the destruction of independent agriculture in the United States, when it’s big corporate farms that have caused this.” ... ... Alex Jones   [End]
      • Not suprising. In the 70’s, my family had heavy levels of p...   Fountain of Youth   11y
         
        Not suprising. In the 70’s, my family had heavy levels of poly-brominated biphenyl(toxin) in our food supply. This was a huge coverup that was eventually called ”cow-gate” in the papers. A fire retardant had accidentally been added to silage at grain silos. The chemical company that made the fire retardant also made a magnesium supplement. The chemicals were switched and PBB got added to the food supply. We had a very small farm for our own milk and vegetable supply. Unfortunately, we got some of the ”tampered?” silage. The governmental arm of Michigan denied that anything was amiss. When ...   [retrieve this message]
        • There are honest individuals in the government, but they se...   #22748   10y
           
          There are honest individuals in the government, but they seem to be few. Compromise is the key to politics. When principle is sacrificed in this manner we all suffer. ... ... Today we see both Democrats and Republicans allowing violation of anti-trust laws. This same desire to please those with money and influence is at work in the meat industry and has been for many years. ... ... Dear Fountain, you are correct in your desire to quit drinking milk. Do a little study and you will be able to put 2 and 2 together again. The same animals that produce diseased meat produce diseased milk. In the United ...   [retrieve this message]
        • I too believe that i am affected with PBB. My mother was pr...   Andrubot   10y
           
          I too believe that i am affected with PBB. My mother was pregnant in Sparta at the time, and believes this may have been utero passed.   [End]
    • Thanks Lapis for the information. In reality Government pro...   hermit   11y
       
      Thanks Lapis for the information. In reality Government protects itself not the people. But I think you knew that any way. ...   [End]
  • Protecting Your Family from Mad Cow Disease   hermit   11y
     
    Go to http://www.americangrassfedbeef.com/mad-cow-disease.asp ... to read and article about Protecting Your Family from Mad Cow Disease, by Dr. Patricia Whisnant, D.V.M. http://www.americangrassfedbeef.com/mad-cow-disease.asp ...   [End]
  • "Angry" cows and my depression   #4715   11y
     
    I was starting to enjoy life and get over my suicidal feelings, I was even looking forward to being alive in 30 years, regardless of S.A.R.S., West Nile Virus, Meningitis, terrorism and the new Bush politics/economy. So now I stopped focusing on looking forward to the future and live each day by itself. So, that cows get angry* and threaten our food supply *, I don’t feel that there really is anything extra for me to lose sleep over, but does anybody know if it kills you right away or does it kill you slowly? ... ... ... ... *kidding, I know their brain is effected.   [End]
    • From what I have heard, this is one of those things that ca...   Fountain of Youth   11y
       
      From what I have heard, this is one of those things that can be dormant for years. I believe that somebody in Florida died a couple years ago from meat eaten in England years prior. ... ... YEP... ... ... Just did a search to confirm my memory. See this link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/04/19/health/main506708.shtml ...   [End]
      • Just wanted to report that my sister is a school teacher ou...   #34483   10y
         
        Just wanted to report that my sister is a school teacher outside of chicago, IL. A fellow teacher just lost her dad to mad cow disease. Her parents went on a cruise to Europe(not sure which specific areas) when they returned, her father fell ill with what seemed like a bad flu at first, but died shortly afterward. The autopsy showed mad cow. Now they are closely watching her mother for any symptoms..not that there is anything that can be done. It was very depressing news. ... ... Also, my mom’s uncle died several yrs ago from a disease that oddly was called ”similar to mad cow” by the hospital, ...   [retrieve this message]
    • The Mad Cow or BSE ... is one factor ... and another is the...   frugivore   7y
       
      The Mad Cow or BSE ... is one factor ... and another is the adrenalin saturated flesh from animals fighting for their ... lives at slaughterhouses.. the protein enzyme chain’s links are only partially ... broken up by cooking ... ... eating animal flesh causes depression ... ... ... http://www.pcrm.org ...   [End]
  • What is the real cause of BSE?   LCD   11y
     
    What is the real cause of BSE? ... ... By Bill Lavers ... ... (Article from the NRA Bulletin, April-June 2000, Issue No. 826) ... ... The greatest difficulty facing scientists as they search for the cause of ... BSE and vCJD is the ubiquitous misunderstanding and misinformation that has been ... circulating about these diseases. How they are caused and how they are linked; ... the fundamental truths - or the pathway that leads to them have been buried in a ... miasma of falsehoods. ... ... Dr David Brown, senior fellow at the Department of biochemistry at Cambridge ... University, recently made his views on the subje ...   [retrieve this message]
  • Insecticide Causes Mad Cow Disease   LCD   11y
     
    Insecticide Causes Mad Cow Disease ... ... by Fintan Dunne ... ... Research by Kathy McMahon ... ... Reprinted from eionews.com, ... email - news@eionews.com ... ... ... Pharmaceutical interests in the UK are ignoring new scientific research that ... shows the insecticide used in the UK government’s own warble-fly campaigns ... triggered the UK surge of ’Mad Cow’ disease. ... ... Latest experiments by Cambridge University prion specialist, David R. Brown, ... have shown that manganese bonds with prions. Other researchers work shows that ... prions in the bovine spine -- along which insecticides are applied -- can be ...   [retrieve this message]
  • THE PATHOLOGY AND PATHOGENESIS OF SPONGIFORM ENCEPHALOPAT...   LCD   11y
     
    ... THE PATHOLOGY AND PATHOGENESIS OF SPONGIFORM ... ENCEPHALOPATHY ... ... ... From: ... http://www.gerryparish.co.uk/research/bse/ ... ... ... Researchers: Anthony Parish ... PhD. & Ben Parish MSc. ... ... (1) BSE is not a ... transmissible disease ... ... (2) The endogenous ... origins of spongiform encephalopathy ... ... ... (3) BSE epidemic trigger ... factor ... ... ... Contact details ... Other documents: ... ... ... ... British BSE epidemic: Caused by three poisons ... ... ... ... (1) ... ... ...  BSE is not a transmissible disease ... ... ... Researchers: Anthony Parish PhD. Benjamin Parish MSc. ... ... ... It has been scientifically determined that various for ...   [retrieve this message]

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