Issue 54: Gallstone Attacks & Surgery
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- Issue 54: Gallstone Attacks & Surgery by Robert
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Gallstone Attacks & Surgery
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DATE: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 01:33:16 -0000
SUBJECT: Gallstone Attacks & Surgery?
I had about 3 good attacks. The pain would double me up and didn't
want to go away. The first one while I was as work, sent me to
Urgent care. They were not sure what it was. Diagnosed as possible
Ulcers, wanted me to go for other tests. Gave me Vicodin, which got
rid of the pain. I was contemplating over time, whether I wanted to
go for that type of surgery where they look into your stomach.
Then while on a business trip, I had another good attack. It started
at 3:00 AM and at 8:00 AM, I was still in very much pain. I went to
a nearby hospital emergency room. There they took EKG's, Chest X-
ray's, blood tests and ultra sound. The tests showed that my Lungs
were fine, no problems with my heart or blood. Though the Ultra
sound showed around 3 small gallstones, which the Doctor said was
probably causing my pain. He said he could give me morphine. I did
not want to get goofy since I had important work to do and opted for
I had not had another attack since before May,2002. Then, late
October, I had another attack. Back to Urgent care and more pain
medicine. I said, "What do I need to do to get rid of this problem?"
The Doctor said she would give me a referral to a Surgeon who would
put a telescope down my throat and look into my stomach to see if I
had any Ulcers. I said, "This is unacceptable". We already know that
I have gallstones from the Ultra-sound. Since I have not changed my
diet at all, don't you think that I would have had an attack within
5 months or so, if it were Ulcers? The Doctor somewhat agreed. I
said well, lets take care of what we know is causing a problem and
then if I still have pain, we will assume it may be Ulcers and go
I got a referral to a Vascular Surgeon and saw him early this
November. I was not prepared for what I was about to hear.
I explained to him that when I got these attacks, that the pain
radiated from what appeared to be my solar plexus region to the back
between the right shoulder blade. He said uh-hah. He asked me to
cough. No cough harder. I did. He said you have a Hernia in your
He asked me to come into his office and we would talk about what
I need to do.
He mentioned dissolving the stones, but the treatment doesn't work
all that well and more gallstones would be made. He told me that for
you, this is a done deal. I would recommend having your Gallbladder
removed, he said. He told me that it is no big deal. Relatively easy
and that he does about three to four of these a week.
he said nothing about alternatives to surgery or possible problems
that would or could appear from having this type of surgery. He made
it seem in and out.
I told him I would contact him when I decided to have it. He did
not want me to wait long. I wonder why? ($$).
On the way home I thought the last thing I want to do is to have
a part of my body removed. This is SERIOUS!!! Any surgery is a major
thing and for a Doctor to state otherwise is irresponsible.
We are born with these organs for a reason. If not, we would not
I researched as much as I could to find other alternatives, so I
could keep my Gallbladder that I was born with.
The more I researched, the more I concluded that a Liver Flush may
be a great alternative. After all, even if it didn't work, it
couldn't hurt. I know that Olive oil is good for you. It lowers the
bad LDL Cholesterol in your system. One night of discomfort is worth
much more than the loss of an Organ. That's right ORGAN!
Don't let the medical profession lead you to believe that you do not
need this ORGAN, or that it is no big deal. It is a big deal. It
could be your LIFE. From all my research, I have found many bad
things that have come from having this Surgery. Removal of an Organ,
should be the absolute last thing that is ever done. And only after
you have exhausted every other option.
Today is the second flush I have done. I feel great. Lots of energy.
Got rid of a lot of stones. Don't know if they were the ones causing
the pain or not. But I will keep flushing until I do not see any
stones come out. And then I will still do them, yet not as regularly.
The best thing. I still get to keep my Gallbladder with no invasive
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ELIMINATE GALL STONES
Day one through five: Eat only fruits and vegetables. Drink at least one quart of natural (Motts) apple juice daily. Drink lots of water every day. Consume no fats of any kind.
Day 6: Eat only fruits and vegetables until noon. Drink only water after noon. At 6:00 p.m., take 1 tablespoon Epsom Salts in 2 oz water. Repeat at 8:00 p.m. At 10:00 p.m. take 4 oz virgin olive oil mixed with 2 tablespoons of fresh lemon juice.
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- Re: Gallstone Attacks & Surgery by #164814
I might give you some advice:
1. You should do that "awful" endoscopic test. It's not harmful (only a bit unpleasant), but it may reveal some health details which cannot be shown otherwise:
a). a possible existance of "Helycobacter pilori", a bacteria which is responsible for over 90% of ulcer cases (though, scientists have found recently that its location spread also in other parts of human body and not only in the stomach) and which should be treated with antibiotics (unfortunately, but unavoidably);
b). the co-existence of a hazardous behaviour of your gall blader, causing hiperacidity in your stomach.
For your stones I would suggest you an alternative solution: every morning, one hour before your time to wake up, swallow 1 teaspoonfull of olive oil, followed by some natural (made by you) fruit juice. Then go to bed immediately, on your right side, for an hour. This might help you to get rid of your stones and to have a proper flush out early in the morning.
All the best. Silvia
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- Re: Gallstone Attacks & Surgery by Julie
- Re: Gallstone Attacks & Surgery by william
i have the same case and scheduled to be operated. I worried about all these things. Doctors always say ok. but how ok. how can we leave without gallbladder. what is the effect on your body. on you life. Operation is simple as they say, but what life are we heading on. what side effects. what will change. there are lots of question. and i could not find any single answer. help me please.
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- Re: Gallstone Attacks & Surgery by #165972
Well I can relate to your pain because i had to have my removed. The pain was unbarable if he had took it out i was going to take it out myself. It was also hard for the doctors to find out it was my galblatter it was very very painful i had to stay in the hospital for a week god i can describe the pain. But i can relate to your pain
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