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Hi guys,
I am using Stevia (pure Stevia plus Inulin)
This has me concerned because I know since long time that Dr. Zoltan Rona affirms they have found candida can feed with Stevia. This information is in his book that I have read several times. Everybody says Stevia is Ok but I don't know what to say !
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This is a reply to # 1,863,249Hi guys,
I am using Stevia (pure Stevia plus Inulin)
This has me concerned because I know since long time that Dr. Zoltan Rona affirms they have found candida can feed with Stevia. This information is in his book that I have read several times. Everybody says Stevia is Ok but I don't know what to say !
Jorge.I seriously doubt that stevia will feed Candida. The sugar molecules in stevia are too large for the body to absorb and thus are likely too large for the Candida to absorb as a food source as well.
Besides, these studies show that stevia kills Candida:
http://www.tjpr.org/vol7_no4/747_jayaraman.php
In-vitro Antimicrobial and Antitumor Activities of Stevia Rebaudiana(Asteraceae) Leaf Extracts
Sathishkumar Jayaraman*, Muthu Saravanan Manoharan, Seethalakshmi Illanchezian
Life Teck Research Centre, Vadapalani, Chennai – 600026, India
Tropical Journal of Pharmaceutical Research, December 2008; 7(4): 1143-1149
Abstract
Purpose: The purpose of the study is to evaluate the antimicrobial and antitumor activities of Stevia rebaudiana (Asteraceae) leaf extracts.
Methods: Four solvent extracts (ethyl acetate, acetone, chloroform and water) of Stevia rebaudiana leaves were investigated against Staphylococcus aureus, Salmonella typhi, Escherichia coli, Bacillus subtilis, Aeromonas hydrophila and Vibrio cholerae by using agar well diffusion method. Candida albicans, Cryptococcus neoformans, Trichophyton mentagrophytes and Epidermophyton species were used to test anti-yeast and antifungal activity. The cytotoxic effects of the extracts on Vero and HEp2 cells were assayed using 3-(4,5-Dimethylthiazol-2-yl)-2,5-diphenyltetrazolium bromide [MTT].
Results: Among the four extracts tested, acetone extract had effective antibacterial potential, followed by ethyl acetate extract. The acetone extract showed greater activity against Gram-positive than against Gram-negative organisms. All the extracts were active against Epidermophyton species and Candida albicans. The 1:8 dilution of the acetone extract was non-toxic to normal cells and also had both anticancer and anti-proliferative activities against cancerous cells.
Conclusion: The study confirms the antimicrobial and antitumor activities of Stevia rebaudiana leaves extracted using various solvents, and is therefore, a potential drug that requires further studies and development.
1997;55(6):262-8.Isolation, identification and antimicrobial activity of ombuoside from Stevia triflora.
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Departamento de Química, Facultad de Ciencias, Universidad de Los Andes (ULA), Mérida, Venezuela.
Abstract
From aerial parts of Stevia triflora DC the flavonol glycoside ombuoside (7,4'-di-O-methylquercetin-3-O-beta-rutinoside) has been isolated and identified on the basis of spectral data. Ombuoside and the synthetic derivatives octa-acetylombuoside, ombuine and retusine were tested for antimicrobial activity against several strains of Gram-positive and Gram-negative bacteria and the yeast Candida albicans, using the agar diffusion method. The flavonol glycoside ombuoside and the respective aglycone ombuine, both exhibited moderated activity against Corynebacterium diphtheria, Staphylococcus aureus, Escherichia coli and Candida albicans. To a lesser degree, octaacetylombuoside and retusine showed activity against the Gram-positive bacteria C. diphtheria and S. aureus, but proved to be inactive against Gram-negative bacteria and Candidaalbicans. These results indicate that the presence of free hydroxyl groups, either alcoholic or phenolic, is an important chemical feature for the expression of flavonol antimicrobial activity. It is worth noting that this is the first study reported on the antibacterial and antifungal activity of these substances.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,863,323Intresting information Hveragerthi. I would prefer using stevia over Xylitol anyday. I tried Xylitol only once, and using very litte. My stomach rejected it straight away by expelling it through diaherra. My stomach was upset for at least two days. All thanks to tasting a small teaspoon of Xylitol. Many people cannot stand the sour taste of stevia, but I would prefer the stevia to Xylitol. There seems to be so many contridictions about these two natural alternatives to man made sugar. C
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This is a reply to # 1,863,354Dr. Jeff Post:In relationship to sweeteners, the specific conditioned reflex is called a Cephalic Phase Insulin Release (CPIR)- http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WB2-4SGD4KP-1&_use...
The sensation of a sweet taste causes the body to store blood glucose in anticipation of more glucose coming into the body. This leads to low blood sugar, hypoglycemia, which then sets into a motion other body responses. Hypoglycemia can suppress the immune system of the gut, affect hormones, the adrenals, and the nervous system. The main affect that is best to avoid is immune system suppression, as this facilitates candida growth.
How one measures success on the Plan may not necessarily reflect true effectiveness. If you reduce toxicity and inflammation and create other changes to a certain degree, you may see improvement of symptoms, but not elimination of the underlying causes. Eating bread can feed candida, as bread is a simple carbohydrate regardless of the source. Nuts are high in fungus and can lead to excess mucous production which will act like a biofilm for candida. Nut butters can produce the same type of result. Excess mucous can create a lot of congestion within the body and this may contribute to constipation, acne and other problems associated with congestion. Stevia can initiate the CPIR mentioned above and all that goes with it.Sweetners have lowered my blood sugar in the past.
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This is a reply to # 1,863,379Very interesting. I eat nut butters, but now I'm afraid it might be contributing to my issues...On several candida diet sites, they say nuts and nut butters are on the "ok" list. Ugh....i hate conflicting info.
Obviously, bread is bad, but what about home-made coconut bread using coconut flour?
ingredients:
-9 eggs
-1/2c EVOO
-1.5 tsp baking powder
-3/4 tsp Sea Salt
-1c + 3oz coconut flour- Re: nut butters and coconut bread Eric11
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,863,404I think the trouble with nut butter is the same with nuts in general. Nuts attract mold. The nuts used in processed nut butters could have been sitting around for a long time before they were made into butter. This is a problem with a lot of packaged foods, which is why fresh is the way to go when on the diet.
The best way to know if the butters bother you is to stop eating them for about a week and see how you feel. Then, try them again by themselves and see how you react. This assumes you are following the diet strictly though. If you frequently break the diet, it may be difficult to tell what's causing a particular reaction.
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This is a reply to # 1,863,404Quote: "Obviously, bread is bad, but what about home-made coconut bread using coconut flour?"
ingredients:
-9 eggs
-1/2c EVOO
-1.5 tsp baking powder
-3/4 tsp Sea Salt
-1c + 3oz coconut flour
Hello.
I ate this exact recipe, three to four slices every day of the week thourghout my Candida treatment and cure. Coconut is not a grain, therefore it will not cause Candida reactions.
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This is a reply to # 1,863,591True... I guess the carb amount is negligible, especially since the fiber gives it a net carb of 2g or so.
I found another recipe for the bread:
http://www.genaw.com/lowcarb/coconut_bread.html
it gives the nutritional info. I would substitute the ghee/butter for coconut oil.
And here is one without baking powder: http://www.cheeseslave.com/2008/11/26/coconut-flour-bread/
Is the baking powder necessary? Also, can coconut oil be used instead of EVOO? did u try using VCO? WHich variation did u enjoy most?
Would these recipes be ok:
1. Coconut pancakes:
Eggs (3)
coconut oil(3 TBS)
Coconut milk (3 TBS)
Sea salt (1 tsp)
Coconut flour (3 TBS)
Baking powder (1/2 tsp baking powder)
Here is the link to the pancakes, but I modified it to exclude the milk products, sugar, etc...
http://www.cheeseslave.com/2008/10/17/coconut-flour-pancakes/
2. Protein "ice cream"
http://heathereatsalmondbutter.com/recipes/protein-ice-cream/
(I would make my own nut milk or use coconut milk/kefir. Use Nutribiotic chocolate rice protein, skip stevia. Gums are good b/c they help bind to toxins).
Lastly, Is kombucha and coconut milk kefir ok on the candida diet? There is some controversy on whether fermented foods/drinks are helpful or harmful (example, Bee says no: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/recipes/recipe202.php)
How are these drinks?
http://www.synergydrinks.com/classic/kombucha_classic.aspx
http://www.turtlemountain.com/products/product.php?p=so_delicious_cultured_co...
What brand of yogurt do u eat? Any that u recommend for those with lactose/dairy issues? (Are u sure the lactose doesn't feed the candida?)?
Thanks for letting me pick your brain!
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This is a reply to # 1,863,379The main affect that is best to avoid is immune system suppression, as this facilitates candida growth.
I have to disagree with this comment. The immune system is not a singular thing. It is actually comprised of numerous things including various white blood cells, various cytokines, various enzymes, various glands, peroxide, the flora, the stomach acid,....... Parts of the immune system can be suppressed without suppressing other components of the immune system. How the immune system is suppressed will determine what kind of health issues may possibly occur.
The part of the immune system that is primarily responsible for controlling Candida are the intestinal flora, which are not adversely affected by the stevia.
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This is a reply to # 1,863,354Many people cannot stand the sour taste of stevia, but I would prefer the stevia to Xylitol.
The bitterness of stevia comes from an alkaloid in the stem, not the leaf. Higher quality stevia made with almost pure leaf does not have that overly bitter taste. And the powdered extracts with 90-99% stevioside also have no bitter aftertaste.
But these higher grades only require tiny amounts for use. Generally a 1/4 teaspoon will replace a cup of sugar. But this makes it hard to spread such a small amount over something like cereal, and it will not hold moisture like sugar. So additives are often combined with stevia extracts such as maltodextrin, FOS, lactose or erythritol as flow agents and in some cases to help retain moisture.
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