MMS after taking it the first time 
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This is a post for people to know my experience but this is more about trying to figure out "how" can this be. I don't understand.
I have done plenty research and asked plenty questions, esp to Tom, before I started mms. I wanted to start out extremely slow so I thought what Tom recommend would be best, which is taking it unactivated in a liter of water. I had plan to take it activated also but I wanted to start unactivated first.
I ordered Miracle-Mineral-Supplement from project green life. It arrived over a week ago but I wanted to wait to take it because of a little congestion I had. I waited until my congestion was all cleared up before I took it because I didn't want any "if ands or buts". I was extremely careful with the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . I compared drops for the cap on the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement bottle, with drops from a dropper bottle lid. The glass lid dropper appeared to be the smallest amount so I decided to use that for my drops.
I added 1 liter of distilled water to a large cup. I added one drop of MMS. I stirred it around with a spoon for a few seconds. I had planned to drink it throughout the day. After letting it sit for a couple minutes, I decided to drink a small amount. I ate a medium sized breakfast about 15 prior to me taking the MMS. I took a drink of about 2 tablespoon fulls, if that much.
After about a couple minutes I started to get this feeling that is unexplainable. I'm sure some of you have gotten this feeling before but it is very very scary. I have gotten this same feeling a couple other times before. The first time was when I was a teenager and took ephedra before it was banned. Also once when I took a drop or 2 of oregano. I wish I could explain how I felt but scary is all I can say which is sort of an understatement .. and no, its not that I was scared for the simple fact that it is MMS. I was scared because of the feeling I got after taking it.
I started walking around really fast and after about 1 minute of feeling that way, I went straight to the kitchen and started chugging down water. Probably drank about a liter within a minute or so. I would like to say that helped which it probably did but that scary feeling continued for the next 10-15 minutes. It subsided after about 15 minutes but by all means I still felt far from normal.
As more time passed I started to feel the urge to vomit. Did that about 10 times over a 20 minute. I would like to say that helped also but it didn't take that feeling away immediately. I didn't get diarrhea. After about 1 1/2 hours I then felt good enough not to be worried.
Is my body that toxic to where that extremely small amount would do that to me? I just did a parasite cleanse about 2 weeks ago. I drink close to or at least a gallon of water a day. I exercise on average about 5 days a week. I guess my body is still toxic despite doing those things. I really wanted to give MMS a chance but after taking an amount that small, I don't understand how I can start out any slower than that. Any input on this is much appreciated.
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- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... SilverFox
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This is a reply to # 1,761,189Hello Ice4me,
I am aware of one other person that had a somewhat similar reaction. I have no idea what is going on.
The solution you mixed up has about 6 PPM available chlorine dioxide. Solutions with a higher concentration than that are being used with birds and both salt and fresh water fish without any problems. You would think that it would be easier to make birds and fish sick, but that doesn't seem to be what is going on here.
I would suggest that you limit your use to topical applications and find something else to drink.
Tom
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- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... ice4me
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I read about a lady on this board who was putting a few drops in the jug of water for the house without telling anyone. Glad I wasn't the one in there because I would have drank way more than a tablespoon.
Im not knowledable about PPM. Tom you said what I mixed is about 6 ppm chlorine dioxide. Does it not make a difference if I drank 1 teaspoon opposed to half a liter? Would I have still felt the same because of the PPM .. no better or worse?
Is it possible the company I bought it from made it way stronger than 28% by mistake?
I really had high hopes for Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . Hows the topical use going to be of any benefit to me if Im needing it for a sickness and wouldn't this be proof that my body is a bit toxix?
I know I have lots of questions but I was sure that this would help me.
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- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... SilverFox
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This is a reply to # 1,761,464Hello Ice4me,
PPM has to do with the concentration of the solution. Wilderness water purification uses 4 PPM. In contrast a 3 drop dose of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement has a concentration of about 190 PPM.
The amount you consume also plays into this. The more you consume, the more chlorite your body is subjected to. The one study done with humans consuming water with chlorine dioxide in it (note that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement forms chlorous acid which is different than chlorine dioxide in water) found that drinking 1 liter of 5 PPM chlorine dioxide in water a day for 12 weeks produced no adverse effects.
While it is possible that the company that made your Miracle-Mineral-Supplement screwed something up, it is unlikely. Still, if you have access to a laboratory a few quick checks could be done to determine what strength it actually is.
There are thousands of external uses for sodium chlorite. You could start with a mouthwash. That would have a positive effect on your health. You can eliminate unwanted odors and mold spores from your house and furniture, you can disinfect wounds and clothes, you can take a bath in it, and so on.
Perhaps you are simply sensitive to this chemical, like some people have allergies. As far as your body being toxic goes, if someone is allergic to peanuts and you give them a peanut and they have a reaction, does that mean that their body is full of toxins?
Tom- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... ice4me
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I didnt think of it that way. I thought of a possibility that maybe Im more sensitive to it only because I was very toxic. Like dieoff effect. So I guess from what youre saying thats not likely or possible. Im just trying to figure out what could "possibly" be the problem.- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... Labrat The Tenacious
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This is a reply to # 1,761,596ice4me,
I experienced a severe Herxheimer Reaction when I first started Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . It was on the third day taking one drop activated daily.
You can read about my experience in this forum. It is among the first post I made on this forum.
Labrat- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... ice4me
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That Herxheimer Reaction sounds like what it was. Ive had a dieoff before but this feeling felt MUCH WORSE .. esp within the first 15 minutes of taking it. Its like I was loosing my mind. Maybe it was a severe dieoff from loosing all those toxins.
I had read through many of your post before while researching. Im thinking if activated would be better for me.- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... Hidden Username
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This is a reply to # 1,761,906Hello ice4me,
My name is Steve, I manufacture and sell Miracle-Mineral-Supplement .
I am 99.99% sure that PGL didn't make it wrong. There are a few dealers that you can count on for proper strengths, and they are one of them.
Not everyone can tolerate everything, some people have allergies and reactions. Penicillin can kill me for instance, but other people take it all the time.
If, like most, PGL is using Oxychem Flakes, the inert ingredients you ingested besides Sodium Chlorite were most likely some Sodium Chlorate, Sodium Hydroxide (lye),
Table Salt, Sodium Carbonate, and Sodium Sulfate, and these also come into play.
I am with Tom, if anything causes you that much distress, refrain from it. Perhaps another Oxidative therapy.- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... ice4me
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I bought from them because research tells me they are a reputable company. That doesnt mean mistakes cant happen which is why I questioned that to figure out any and everything else why this possibly happened. It may just be a bad reation. Mabye its just dieoff so if in fact that is what it is .. then why should I not try it at a lower dose?
Im sure I had one of the VERY rare instances where someone had a reaction like me to such small amount, so I didnt want to rule out the VERY rare chance of a mistake happening by the company, which they have likely NEVER made a mistake like that. If I had to buy again I would probably buy from them.
As Tom stated .. they use these chemicals in city water at a lower concentration (I think he said half the concentration I took) and I drink about a gallon of city water every day. I guess he meant sodium chlorite .. not sure if hes talking about all that other stuff. Whats the purpose of all these other ingredients you mentioned and wouldnt you say this is probably dieoff moreso than a bad allergic sensitive reaction?
I still dont understand how this could happen as much as it was diluted, along with the VERY small amount I took. I know it may be strong but 1 drop in a liter of water and only a little sip. Im with Labrat The Tenacious on this one and I think may just be dieoff of toxins.- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... Labrat The Tenacious
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This is a reply to # 1,762,142ice4me,
Just for your information. I reduced to 1/4 drop and still got a Herxheimer Reaction. I weigh about 100kg if you want to compare drops to Kilogram.
Labrat- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... ice4me
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You mentioned before that you take one drop unactivated in a glass of water also and drink it all at one sitting Im sure. I didnt even take a mouthful with 1 drop in a liter of water. Isnt that sorta like taking about 1/100 of a drop.- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... Labrat The Tenacious
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This is a reply to # 1,762,167ice4me,
Yes, that would be a very small amount. I doubt anything that small would elicit a Herxheimer Reaction but I don't know for sure. It may well be an allergic reaction.
Your reaction to such a small amount is the first I've ever heard of.
Labrat- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... #20444
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This is a reply to # 1,762,324RE: Miracle-Mineral-Supplement \ CDS
I just ordered CDS ...
CDS is a pre-mixed version of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement ...
you can buy it in a 4oz glass bottle w. a pipette -
for more info + products go to http://www.mmsforhealth.com ...
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I also use the following protocol with my regular Miracle-Mineral-Supplement drops:
Mix 5 teaspoons Apple Cider Vinegar (or MMS acid) with 1 teaspoon MMS - swirl + wait 3 minutes - then add 3-8 oz of distilled water + pour the whole mixture into a 32oz glass bottle of distilled water + tighten the cap (best bottles to use are the VOSS drinking water bottles you get in almost any supermarket or healthfood store)- store in your fridge - 1 oz of this mix equals 3 drops of MMS - 2 oz equals 6 drops of MMS - this mixture keeps for quite a while in the fridge + saves you work + time!
god bless ~
Lore
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- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... Labrat The Tenacious
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- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... ice4me
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I wanted to know "for sure" that project green life didn't make a mistake with making the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement so Tom kindly tested the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for me and has determined it is good. Just thought I would let people know. Again .. as I said in another post, Ive done much research on the best place to buy Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and project green life appeared to be one of the best suppliers. So hopefully this post will eliminate someone else having to search alot like myself to find a good supplier.- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... DeadPoets
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This is a reply to # 1,765,858It is the best seller imo too
I bought from Ocean Labs and the 50% citric acid was NOT 50% and the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement even seemed diluted
I did a smell test with 3 drops activated Miracle-Mineral-Supplement from both companies and it wasn't even close.
Project Green Life had a much more distinct smell to it. And the color of the liquid when activated was much darker.
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- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... SilverFox
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- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... ice4me
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One thing I would like to say that I didnt mention. Maybe this is just a coincidence .. not sure. My digestive system and bowel movements is a bit screwed up. Later that night after taking Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and the following day, my bowel movements were normal. I wont go into great details about it but the last time I would have said it was normal was probably months ago. - Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... LukeMuhammad
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This is a reply to # 1,761,189MMS
I can tell you exactly why you had such a bad experience with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . YOU DIDN'T FOLLOW the proper preparation recommendations outlined by Jim Humble.
Faulty research will give you faulty results.
Here's the best tip for you: NEVER TAKE Miracle-Mineral-Supplement WITHOUT ACTIVATION.
MMS was never intended to be taken "unactivated."
Not to make this a lengthy reply, I will strongly suggest the writer conduct better research.
MMS must always be activated. To take Miracle-Mineral-Supplement without activation is insane. Whoever told you to take it unactivated is uninformed and dangerous.
MMS must be activated with citric acid . The ratio is 1:5; that is, 1 drop of MMS to 5 drops of citric acid .
Mix the two. Swirl the combined ingredients in a glass container so they are well mixed. Add distilled water to stop the activation process. Then add more water or juice to taste. Then drink.
Doses can be strengthened according to use/purpose, but the same ratio applies.
Any research that included the originator of MMS would have explained this to you.
I have taken MMS without negative impact for over seven years.
- Re: MMS after taking it the first ti... SilverFox
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This is a reply to # 2,211,125Hello LukeMuhammad,
Unfortunately you don't seem to understand the chemistry involved with sodium chlorite...
Over a period of 35+ years sodium chlorite was activated with water. The people using it experienced successes and as long as you didn't get carried away with the amounts used it works fine that way. Jim Humble started out the same way but decided that a higher concentration was more favorable for transport in the jungle. His early work with malaria was done with sodium chlorite and water and he reported around a 70% success doing it that way.
The activation of sodium chlorite (including Miracle-Mineral-Supplement ) involves changing the pH of the solution. With lower concentrations and small amounts used water works fine. When you get to higher concentrations of sodium chlorite (MMS) and start using large amounts you need something a little stronger to drop the pH. This is where the various acids come into play.
Keep in mind that 1 drop of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement in 1 liter of water will be activated by the water because the pH of the sodium chlorite will be lowered and that is what it takes to activate sodium chlorite.
Tom
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