I have seen many cases a lot worse. Around the 300/200 range or higher and the people were still walking around. Not sure how. The biggest worries with high blood pressure are with possible kidney damage, arterial damage leading to arterial plaque, and the risk of blowing out an aneurysm.
The magnesium is a natural calcium channel blocker. So I would add ashwagandha, which is a natural ACE inhibitor and beta blocker. That will cover most causes of high blood pressure.
Another great herb is coleus forskohlii, which works like digitalis, even though it is not a cardiac glycoside. Forskohlii slows the heart, strengthens the heart contractions, and lowers the blood pressure. Take it with nettle leaf or watercress to prolong the effects.
Sterols also lower blood pressure by relaxing the blood vessels. Jiaogulan is a great source.
And there is the amino acid taurine, which also relaxes blood vessels. This must be taken on an empty stomach at least 30 minutes before meals.
Those are my choices in order of preference with the magnesium.
If she still has the hyperthyroidism then this could be contributing. The herbs bugleweed and Melissa (lemon balm) are both excellent for suppressing the thyroid in cases of hyperthyroidism.
I have never used ACV for blood pressure.
As for the magnesium malate I like Source Naturals and NOW Foods, which both have pure magnesium malate without any added magnesium oxide that some manufacturers sneak in. And I generally recommend 300mg two to three times daily.
If you are taking doses that high and you are not getting results the possibilities include that your condition is not caused from calcium, your calcium levels are severely high such as from hyperparathyroidism, or you are not absorbing the magnesium.
If you were taking a drug previously and it was working then this can tell us what is causing your high blood pressure. This could be calcium, ACE, sodium, epinephrine, etc.
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I am taking Lotrel (calcium channel blocker and ACE inhibitor), so would magnesium malate and ashw (sp?) work for that?
Yes, magnesium is a natural calcium channel blocker. And ashwagandha is a natural ACE inhibitor and beta blocker.
I want to start drinking jiaogulan for hormonal balance (thyroid) because I want to get off Armour and DHEA from ND.
I hate thyroid medications and DHEA supplements. They just screw up the glandular and hormonal systems even worse. But you cannot go off cold turkey. You have to slowly wean off of these since they shut down the glands they are substituting for.
Would all these be compatible?
Thanks for the reply. I have only been taking Armmour and DHEA for about 3 months. Maybe that hasn't done too much damage. What is the best way to wean off?
Three months is not very long. I recommend building up your thyroid and adrenals with herbs and supplements for a few weeks before cutting your dosage of the Armour and DHEA in half. Then cut dosage in half again after a couple more weeks while continuing with the herbs and supplements. After 2 more weeks you should be able to go off completely. If you start noticing any adverse effects, such as extreme fatigue with any dosages cut you will need to go back to your last dosage of Armour and DHEA for a week or two so the body can adapt to that lower dose then try reducing it again.
For the thyroid I recommend black walnut hull, ashwagandha and tyrosine.
For the adrenals I recommend jiaogulan, schisandra berry, amla or other natural vitamin C sources, and pantothenic acid sources such as pollen.
Thank you. I will do that. Was wondering why you recommend magnesium malate? I know it from malic acid, but any specific reason? Will it have a laxative effect?
As with citrate (citric acid), malic acid plays a major role in ATP formation within cells. But I feel malic acid does a better job of this, and malic acid has been shown to help move oxygen in to cells.
Acidified forms of magnesium have much less of a laxative effect than the oxide and carbonate. Just keep your dosages reasonable. This is why I recommend 300mg dosages 2 to 3 times daily. At this dose there shold not be a laxative effect.
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