LOL... Your delusional. It's no myth that those 'soap' stones are not Gallstones that came from the liver or gallbladder. Several outside sources separate from this forum attest to that (which you reference as 'quacks'), AND several flush users themselves ON THIS SITE had said the same thing.

What do you have to say to the poster who found grapefruit pulp inside his floating soap stones? Why don't you educate all of us on how grapefruit pulp can be inside a gallstone that originated from the liver or gallbladder?

Or are those flush users also part of the great 'quack conspiracy', and do you plan on ignoring this question just like you always do. Are readers supposed to believe whatever you say, and everything everyone else has said is lies, laws of physics are bogus, and all results are doctored and all fake...?

Your a nutjob, and you do a disservice to those looking to perform a flush to try and help themselves.

I grant you that common sense and the preponderance of evidence says that the floating "stones" that are expelled are mostly made up of the ingredients taken for the flush and were formed in the body due to the flush. What goes in must come out after all.


This is just an assumption and if the so called soap is formed by mostly the oil in the standard flush why have many including myself flushed these floating stones without using any oil whatsoever! And what about the many people who did the local experiment using beet juice to dye the oil before consuming and no red colored floating stones appeared ! These people have no proof with their medquack studies?
These people support the quack Stephan Barrets claims, the guy who is up on RICO charges and tries to make a living suing alternative health care practitioners having everyone of his cases thrown out of court! I am certain we have two brand mew medtrolls on this forum, who appeared out of no where never posted anywhere else at curezone and like all other medtrolls in the past ignore all other evidence except that which is supplied by the medical/pharmico industry!

Between you and the Doctor you have about 30 posts on Curezone and everyone is a clear case of misinformation uninformed biases and half truths meant to deceive in this forum only! The agenda is obvious!
But to what avail? lol! thanks for the wisdom of the Webmaster to allow these trolls to exist but only in this seldom observed forum tucked away in the dungeon of Curezone where they belong! I love the long posts my the doc, troll number one who obviously takes his agenda seriously and to the ever present troll accomplice who while troll # one smothers us with his toiled over misinformation troll #two takes on the roll of personal guard dog! This is a tag team match made in big pharmaville I've seen dozens of time before ! In fact this is why this forum was conceived! Have fun on the the pharmatroll express losers!Remember this forum is for entertainment use only! lol!

>Once again, it is conceeded that the green stones are mostly from the oil

Ummm, mostly by whom?

Read my thread and feel free to provide an explanation that makes sense.


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Q. So please educate us all on how and why all these stones are soft?

They are not all soft, and they are not all green. There are frequently smaller off-white stones that are harder which are ignored because people are impressed with the brighter larger green stones.
---R. The post was directed specifically to the 'green soapstones'- which is what was being referenced.

>- Q. So please educate us on why these stones float and why there is food particles in something that supposedly came from the liver and/or gallbladder?

The green stone float because they are formed from oil which is lighter than water. The real stones are often smaller and harder to see, therefore ignored.
---R. This supports the point- they are not real Gallstones that came from the liver/gallbladder.

>- Q. Please educate us and tell us why and how these stones dissolve while real ones do not?

Anything will dissolve under the right conditions. Gold is impervious to being dissolved in most acids or alkalies but it can be dissolved in mercury and in aqua regia. Gall stones can be dissolved in some acids such as ursodeoxycholic acid and chenodeoxycholic acid (both of which are in bile).
---R. Of course most anything can dissolve under the right conditions, what has that got to do with these soap stones dissolving while just sitting out? Real Gallstones need to have something applied to make them dissolve, as you indicate.

>- Q. Please educate us on how a gallstone 5 times or larger than the tunnel it needs to pass through can do so?

Have you ever seen how big a newborn baby is relative to the birth canal? Yes, if there are large gall stones, it can be painful and I have heard many stories of severe pain. The objective of flushing is to remove the stones before they get too large. Also, once many smaller stones are removed, the larger stones may be more easily dissolved by the bile.
---R. The example of the baby and birth canal is a bad example. The birth canal is designed to do exactly what it does for birthing- The cystic or bile ducts or not designed to designed to do that.

>- Q. Please educate us on how you can get more stones out of something than it is capable of holding? And on a repeated basis? And still survive?

Once again, it is conceeded that the green stones are mostly from the oil that is consumed. It is the lighter colored, harder stones that are usually brought out along with the so called soap stones.
---R. As you can see from people responding to your post, that there are those that do not conceded this fact... which was where this post was directed.

>- material acquired from these very boards and nowhere else

Not everything posted on these forums is legitimate or reliable (hence the disclaimers).
---R 93412 complained that evidence supporting these were fake stones were from outside sources... which appears to be why the info listed in this post was soley from these boards.

In the end, you are looking at the chaffe and not at the wheat. Since I started selling zappers in 2001, I have had hundreds of customers tell me about their flushing experiences. The flushes do work, but not usually on the first time. I have heard of customers flushing 30 or 40 times before they had a real breakthrough with a pan full of real stones.