A while back I commented that Iodine constipated me and I had to be vigilant to keep my bowels open. Everyone said no, that they had the opposite experience. Well, for the last couple of weeks there are several on the yahoo forum that have complained that iodine constipated them too, and I am especially interested in your comments to this:
"I've read that iodine increases progesterone levels. High progesterone
is known to cause constipation, it affects the parasympathetic system."
I have not heard of this, but I have been taking Iodine for 8 months now, and have been using progesterone cream for a couple of months. I have not noticed any ill affects with regard to bowels. But maybe it is a different thing with the cream, than naturally occurring progesterone.
Womentowomen.com is a good site full of info, plus they do a newsletter which is really informative. They are femal OBGYN's and NP's but do recommend things like colon cleansing, etc., which I appreciate.
I first read about natural progesterone in Dr. Christiane Northrup's excellent book "Mother-Daughter Wisdom" although I imagine she has a lot of info in her nest-selling book on menopause. I came across Jon Lee in my later research.
Natural progesterone is cheap and pretty side-effect free.
I forgot to say before, when I was in a twin pregnancy with pretty high progesterone levels (which you want in pregnancy I think!) I did not experience constipation at all.
A list of symptoms of low progesterone levels follows at this link, and it doesn't sound bad at all -- I'd assume, and have read in Dr. Christiane Northrup's books about treating postpartum depression and menopause symptims w/ natural Progesterone, that high or at least normal levels would mean an absence or reduction in these problems:
Food and Sugar cravings
Irregular or excessive uterine bleeding
Increased blood clotting
Thyroid dysfunction )
At any rate, if you are dealing with high levels it seems like you would be in pretty good health if none of the above were present -- except, as you mention, the constipation. Many who are pregnant -- prgnenac demand high prog. levels -- also report this -- progesterone slows the movement of the large intestine and therefore causes it. My guess is that Iodine and its relatinship to thyroid and hormone levels could raise progesterone levels -- or normalize them (so even people who had low progesterone and supplemented might experience that "slowing down" upon increasing or normalizing progesterone levels.
My suspicion that iodine and progesterone are related simply comes from scanning that list and seeing how many of those conditions normalize or improve or resolve with iodine intake. FBD/uterine cysts, uterine dysfunction, infertility, thyroid dysfunction -- those are just the ones *I* recognize! The real test for someone who's high in progesterone, constipated, and supplementing can only be whether those things occured in tandem, though.
While you have your experience and that makes for an important addiction to the Curezone knowledge bank, don't feel that because others haven't shared that experience it is not "real." (The time will come when a newcomer will share your same experience and you will be able to be helpful to them -- I was VERY lonely when I had a reaction that others didn't and felt left out of the group experience, but was later grateful to have had it because we had some similar reports months later.)
I *would* offer that I trust this group a lot because there are people here who have been in cleansing/detox mode for a long time and whose bodies got to iodine in better/cleaner shape than mine did a year ago, which makes their experience and guidance invaluable to me. Another group's members could be arriving at that group in lesser states of "wellness" than someone like Trapper, who was pretty dang clean, IMHO, or other veterans of this entire process. Curezone by and large attracts a different breed than even the most thoughtful and intelligent of the other groups where I lurk occasionally...
It will be interesting to see what others say or know or find about iodine elevating progesterone levels. I suspect it's correlative to something else or to the body's increased ability to use progesterone -- I have iodophilia and can't believe that iodine would cause constipation as even an indirect effect!
One quick caution which you probably know about from the Iodine Group. Progesterone can build up in your body and accumulate in the cells. This build-up can sneak up on you. You may get sluggish, gain weight, crave carbs.
I use progesterone cream, along with Vitamin E to eliminate night sweats. And it would be hard for me to tell about the sluggish, gain weight, crave carbs, because I have been diabetic and now it is under control with diet of very low carbs with protein. I think I do have that naturally but have it under better control than I have ever had.
I just wonder if I should eliminate the progesterone cream. It definitely benefits me, but I do have to be vigilant about keeping my bowels open to handle the high doses of iodine.
I guess my instinct is as long as I have night sweats without the progresterone, my body probably needs it, and my progesterone is not high.
If anyone else has any more info, I would like to have it.
I also had problems with constipation with iodine. Newport suggested that it may be heavy metals...lead in particular. I think that metals may be an issue for me...and the Iodine is a potent chelator. I addressed the constipation by increasing my magnesium intake.
I also wonder...for myself...about the effects of iodine on my GI flora. I stopped taking iodine, did some light colon and kidney cleansing...and started really hitting the probiotics. My digestion has been improving ever since.
As for iodines effects on hormones...again, for me...these are more questions I have. I am already perimenopausal and I did experience yet more fluctuations with my hormones...but cannot say for sure in what way. Is it progesterone going up?...is it estrogen dropping down?...is it the dynamic relationship between both?...are there even more hormones involved? I dunno. The endocrine system is extremely complex...AND amazing!!!
Anyway...the main purpose of my post was to let you know that I, too, experienced the constipation while using iodine internally...and there are others that have posted the same experience.
Thank you for that reply. I too am managing my elimination with high doses of magnesium and probiotics, and doing very well as long as I am consistent. I guess for now, I will just trust in the process and keep putting one foot in front of the other.
I got the same suggestion from Newport and am not disputing it, as when I was younger there was leaded gasoline and lead paint, and I have colored my hair since I was very young. And I know I have a lot of metal problems.
I sailed through menopause with no problems. Just since Iodine I started the night sweats, and the progesterone and Vitamin E combination really helps. I am guessing because of that, they are hormonal, but why now, I don't know. I have your same concerns.
I've been struggling with health problems for a long time and I searched and learned a lot.
I'm now in the process of Iodine fulfilment venture!
I suffered with constipation for 15years and tried everything.
Well let me tell you that first you are not alone and second there is always something that will work for you!
Lets get to the medicine now.
Iodine fulfilment programme is like this:I tried the Lugol Iodine and gave me to much trouble so I switched to Iodoral tablets. I started with 1/week and than 2/week, than 3/week and 4/week. The 4iodoral/week must be maintained for 3months, than reduced to 3/week for another month and than to 1/week as maintenance dosage.
Important: You must take Selenium in the form of SE-Methylselenocysteine or Selenomethionine as these forms are the most easily absorbed! I personally must take the SE-Methylselenocysteine as it is the only one that works for me. I have absorption problems.
Since I started to take Iodine my constipation went away and I actually go after every meal.
I must say that I also take Pancreas Glandular and I couldn't live without it as there is a problem with my pancreas. Because of that my bowel doesn't formate but with Pancreas glandular I have no problems.
Iodine is the material for all the hormones: the thyroid hormones and the adrenal hormones, such adrenaline, noradrenaline, epinephrine. The latest ones are formed from dopamine. When there is excess of dopamine, you will get stuck in the sympathetic system(the gas of the car,the flight / fight system) and your body can't relax and get into the parasympathetic system(the break of the car, the relaxation, digestion, repair system).
Everything in the human body works on negative feedback, such as dopamine is antagonised and balanced by serotonine.
Adrenaline is regulated by cortisol and all the hormone are controled and regulated by the pituitary and the hypotalamus. SO when the levels of hormones are too high than this signals the pituitary to stop producing the hormones.
Selenium is necessary for the absorption of the Iodine and for the transformation of T4 in T3 and in T2.
But you must know that before starting Iodine you have to make sure that your Calcium-Magnesium are balanced and are in the normal ranges and also that you have sufficient Copper or that your copper is bioavalible. For that you can take for 1week Copper sebacate(is the most available form) and balance it with Zinc(picolinate or citrate). Only take Copper if necessary and take the Zinc few hours away, as these two are antagonists.
If your copper levels are ok than just a complex of Zinc and copper in ration 1:10 will help. Zinc is involved in a lot of processes and helps digestion by stimulating production of gastric juices.
If you don't have Copper or your copper is bio unavailable, than you must stop your Iodine and take Copper for 1week and restart your Iodine.
Another important issue is Calcium-Magnesium. A lack /deficiency of magnesium can cause constipation but a Calcium deficiency may cause night sweats. Also a Calcium deficiency may be part of your constipation issues, muscle weakness due to Calcium deficiency is one cause of constipation.
Calcium and magnesium must be taken together and no more than 500mg of Calcium and 250mg of Magnesium at one time as whatever is surplus at one time is not absorbed.
Physillium Husk, insoluble fibre adds weight to your stools and facilitates peristaltism(movement) of your bowels. Make sure your drink a lot of liquid when you take it.
Dr. Peter Eckhart has dedicated himself to women's health and created a progesterone oil the best form available today. He explains everything you should know about hormones balancing and elimination of fake estrogen or so called xeno-estrogen that we take from plants or from the products we use such as Shampoo, creams, cleaning products, cehmicals surrounding us.
I personally eliminated everything such as shampoo, shower gels after developing a severe allergy to my shower gel that I used for the past 3years. I took Dr. Eckhart's advice and also ordered his Progesterone oil but after eliminating the xeno-estrogens I don't need anything and feel great!
Also I'm using DIM-estrogen metaboliser and Calcium-glucarate for helping my liver to eliminate used hormones.
I wish you all the best!
Unfortunately I don't have any links in regards to all this searches as I have stored everything in my head. Sometimes I bookmark websites but at the moment I don't have time in searching for it. After reading my post you can run a search yourself with key words such as Calcium _Magnesium balance and probably you will discover the websites.